Rock is dead too.

[strongarm]

people say crap like hip hop is dead well check out what sting has to say about rock music.



Sting: Today's rock music 'bores me'
POSTED: 11:27 a.m. EDT, October 19, 2006
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BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- British rock star Sting said contemporary rock music is so stagnant that he prefers to sing 16th-century English ballads.

The former teacher who shot to fame as lead singer, bassist and composer in the 1970s and '80s for The Police told German newspaper Die Zeit that he prefers singing songs of Elizabethan lutenist and composer John Dowland to the rock music of today.

"Rock music has come to a standstill, it's not going forward anymore, it only bores me," Die Zeit quoted Sting as saying.

The 55-year-old singer, whose birth name is Gordon Sumner, had a string of hits with The Police with songs like "Roxanne" and "Don't Stand So Close To Me." He has since also had a lucrative solo career with songs like "Englishman in New York." He recently appeared on NBC's "Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip," playing a version of his "Fields of Gold" on the lute.

"Forty years ago it was my dream to break out of Newcastle and never be poor again," he told the magazine.

"I'm very privileged. I'm a successful musician, live in a beautiful house, and have a wonderful family."

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will young rock stars start hatin on sting. :laugh:


http://www.myspace.com/lethalpimp03
http://www.myspace.com/sackwern

[Jancarius]

Music in general is dumbing down, just like all the kids.

[watthafuc]

Music in general is dumbing down, just like all the kids.
5 star post

[x2y]

Its the industry they are war with the people, the people that support and their grammas the companies that wont play their game.

The industry imo needs to just collapse, destoyed and rebuild. The suits don't know sh!t except getting they pockets fatter.

[Shaista]

bootleggin

[TheT Organization]

Music in general is dumbing down, just like all the kids.


This decade has put out more shytty music than good. Everything's been done if you think about it musically.

[Bone Daddy]

people say crap like hip hop is dead well check out what sting has to say about rock music.
Sting: Today's rock music 'bores me'
POSTED: 11:27 a.m. EDT, October 19, 2006
Adjust font size:
BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- British rock star Sting said contemporary rock music is so stagnant that he prefers to sing 16th-century English ballads.
The former teacher who shot to fame as lead singer, bassist and composer in the 1970s and '80s for The Police told German newspaper Die Zeit that he prefers singing songs of Elizabethan lutenist and composer John Dowland to the rock music of today.
"Rock music has come to a standstill, it's not going forward anymore, it only bores me," Die Zeit quoted Sting as saying.
The 55-year-old singer, whose birth name is Gordon Sumner, had a string of hits with The Police with songs like "Roxanne" and "Don't Stand So Close To Me." He has since also had a lucrative solo career with songs like "Englishman in New York." He recently appeared on NBC's "Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip," playing a version of his "Fields of Gold" on the lute.
"Forty years ago it was my dream to break out of Newcastle and never be poor again," he told the magazine.
"I'm very privileged. I'm a successful musician, live in a beautiful house, and have a wonderful family."
Copyright 2006 Reuters. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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will young rock stars start hatin on sting. :laugh:
http://www.myspace.com/lethalpimp03
http://www.myspace.com/sackwern
If rock is dead, given the fact that he's been invloved with it for 30 years or so, then he has a direct hand in the death of rock.

[flapjacks]

Well, I see most of you people can't distinguish sales from artistic growth. I guess I won't contribute to this thread.

[Clem]

100% not true. Who the **** is Sting though really?

[Bone Daddy]

100% not true. Who the **** is Sting though really?
Most of these people think all music peaked over a decade ago, you can't convince them otherwise.

[informerx]

What album recently has come out that has been so great in Rock or Hip-Hop? Nothing both need some new blood and kick these old artists to the side cause they aint making the music they used to.

[Zayus]

Sting has his own view of what rock music is, but it's stuck in the 80's. With all the 80's-obsession going around right now of course he'll be bored because he sees the similarities.

[Clem]

What album recently has come out that has been so great in Rock or Hip-Hop? Nothing both need some new blood and kick these old artists to the side cause they aint making the music they used to.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

If I could rate this thread one star again I would.

[HurricaneJ213]

What album recently has come out that has been so great in Rock or Hip-Hop? Nothing both need some new blood and kick these old artists to the side cause they aint making the music they used to.

Velvet Revolver
Red Hot Chili Peppers

[Clem]

Velvet Revolver
Red Hot Chili Peppers
jesus

[BigHedd]

jesus
lmao

my sentiments exactly

[skanky80]

jesus

hah

[TheT Organization]

WEll, to think about it. Nothing ever dies. It's just that riock has been in that creative stagnation in the mainstream for the most part, but only those who can't find good music for themselves care about that. you can't appply that tired hip-hop ethos to other genres because it simply doesn't work.


While you hear 2 shiitty rock bands on the radio, there are 10 times as many good bands you've never heard of. So, it can't be applied as "dying", only in the mainstream, if that's all you really look for in music anyway and don't bither to go outside your level of comfort to find good music.

[Tetris v2.0]

Mainstream music sucks period. I dont even think im being retrospective, but the 00's have got to be the worst era ever for mainstream music.

[TheT Organization]

Mainstream music sucks period. I dont even think im being retrospective, but the 00's have got to be the worst era ever for mainstream music.



I agree.

[Kill Whitey]

Sting is a fuking old man. Dude thinks rock is dead because he's not young anymore. He's got this stick up his ass about the music of his youth years being the best. All old fogies have this attitude. I'll probably have it in 30 years. Nevertheless sting hasnt come out with any good music since the police days. So either sting should drop something worthy or shut the fuk up and let the kids rock out to what they dig, and stop disrespecting their expression..

[anti white movement]

all the new genres came from a blending of western african and western european musical styles. Everything already been incorporated into american culture.... all the Afro-euro genres have run out of steam.

Jazz, Blues, country, Rock (funk, disco, punk, soul, R&b, etc..) , Reggae, Reggatone, Samba, and hip-hop are all rooted in african traditions and rhythms mixed up with western european tonal structure.

It's been pretty much 400 years since slavery times began, and western african culture and western european culture has already been fused into someting called American culture.

THere really nothing else to do with african and european traditions. it's ran out of ideas and steam.

[Kill Whitey]

all the new genres came from a blending of western african and western european musical styles. Everything already been incorporated into american culture.... all the Afro-euro genres have run out of steam.

Jazz, Blues, country, Rock (funk, disco, punk, soul, R&b, etc..) , Reggae, Reggatone, Samba, and hip-hop are all rooted in african traditions and rhythms mixed up with western european tonal structure.

It's been pretty much 400 years since slavery times began, and western african culture and western european culture has already been fused into someting called American culture.

THere really nothing else to do with african and european traditions. it's ran out of ideas and steam.

That's like saying human language has been around for thousands of years all the word combinations have been done, words have exhausted them selves, their is no more original writing. Language has run out of steam...No use in writing screenplays, novels, poetry, songs, etc..

[JackDaCrack]

New rock just isn't as good as old rock.

Now a days, it seems like it's just loud noises and screaming.

[Copper Scroll]

That's like saying human language has been around for thousands of years all the word combinations have been done, words have exhausted them selves, their is no more original writing. Language has run out of steam...No use in writing screenplays, novels, poetry, songs, etc..
Agreed. There are new and fresh ideas happening now.

[anti white movement]

Agreed. There are new and fresh ideas happening now.

music isn't a close analogy to language.

Language has changed drastically in europe. Latin exploded into 4 different languages.

Music, in the western world, however didn't really change much until the introduction of african rhythmic patterns and musical styles.

The change from boroque (spelling) to the romantic era wasn't really that much of a huge step. But the change from classical european to American Euro-Afro hybrids (blues, brass band jazz, ragtime) was huge.

That hasn't been a new idea in music since hip-hop, and that's been more than 20 years ago. We're not going to see a new genre (not some sub-genre of rock or hip-hop) within our lifetimes.

All the unique western african musical traditions have now been firmly incorporated into American culture.

Mass Call and reponse-- American gospel music
Improv and polyrhythmic patterns-- JAZZ
vocal traditions, intrumentation, Free verse and blue notes--Blues/country
Western african dance tradition, Griots and Toasting-- Hip-hop.

there's no more shyt from africa and europe to mix and blend. you have to remember that before hand, both african and european music remained nearly unchanged for 500+ years. Without any new injections of COMPletely new music culture into america, american music will stangnant just like european and africa prior to the late 1500's

[anti white movement]

i don't think you guys understand what real new music is..

We've just been accustomed to an evolution of the same old shyt for 50 years.


within a 70 years america went from Blues/country, to ragtime to Jazz to rock, and then to hip-hop which was just a new twist on rock.

Nothing has really changed after rock and hip-hop that is a clear sign..that new ideas aren't coming around anymore.

everything is going to have the Rock beat-pattern..(Think bass on the 1 snare on the 2) and the blues Song format. That's never going to change ever... and the bass, drum and rhythm section of rock (which is essentially hip-hop's instrumentation) is never going to change...ever.

You'd have to come up with a strong argument to convince me that the essential fundamentals of Rock and hip-hop were to change or that something that didn't use these fundamentals would emerge.

[Copper Scroll]

Music, in the western world, however didn't really change much until the introduction of african rhythmic patterns and musical styles.

The change from boroque (spelling) to the romantic era wasn't really that much of a huge step. But the change from classical european to American Euro-Afro hybrids (blues, brass band jazz, ragtime) was huge.

That hasn't been a new idea in music since hip-hop, and that's been more than 20 years ago. We're not going to see a new genre (not some sub-genre of rock or hip-hop) within our lifetimes.

All the unique western african musical traditions have now been firmly incorporated into American culture.

Mass Call and reponse-- American gospel music
Improv and polyrhythmic patterns-- JAZZ
vocal traditions, intrumentation, Free verse and blue notes--Blues/country
Western african dance tradition, Griots and Toasting-- Hip-hop.

there's no more shyt from africa and europe to mix and blend. you have to remember that before hand, both african and european music remained nearly unchanged for 500+ years. Without any new injections of COMPletely new music culture into america, american music will stangnant just like european and africa prior to the late 1500's
The magnitude of the type of "change" or "innovation" you're talking about is relative. What constitutes a major or minor change depends on one's perspective and what factors in the music are being attended to.

New ideas have come up within hip hop and within rock and within jazz within the last 20 years. If we don't see any new "genres", that doesn't necessarily mean that there are no new ideas. Marketing and the general operation of the music industry has played a large role in defining genres. They could section off a particular part of the musical landscape and call it a new genre if they wanted to--if it suited their purposes. If they did, we'd probably eat it, and more musicians would stand up to supply the demand for more content within that genre. The musical tastes of a particular subculture could elicit a new name to characterize these tastes and thus a new genre. Wasn't this the way for hip hop?

Far Eastern musical traditions are being mixed into various genres and giving them new life. People are running off into the sections of the musical landscape they like and forming new communities--new little africas and europes and asias that may mix in the future giving rise to new and fresh ideas again.

Your argument is a good one though. I am just hesitant to discount our capacity for originality in music. What's to say that computer geeks won't develop a particular taste for the sound of their CPUs buzzing and record these sounds for later listening in the car? Would we not call that music? Could we not assign these sounds their own genre?

[Copper Scroll]

everything is going to have the Rock beat-pattern..(Think bass on the 1 snare on the 2) and the blues Song format. That's never going to change ever... and the bass, drum and rhythm section of rock (which is essentially hip-hop's instrumentation) is never going to change...ever.

Clearly jazz and other "world musics" don't follow these rules. There have been some (even fundamental) exchanges and mixtures between some of these forms and rock/blues/rap... but there is a whole lot of room for more....

[Kill Whitey]

music isn't a close analogy to language.



Music is a form of language. And it is more pure. Because it is a worldwide language. Everyone understands music regardless of language. Music affects our emotions and no matter what language you speak a musician can communicate saddness with a minor chord or joy with a major7th or happyness with a grooove. Music is the Universal language. And the way we relate to sounds is pre-programmed into our brains...

[NcRider]

they songs out now seem to be about nothing