Old School N1ggas From The Late 80's, Early 90's Couldnt Stand A Chance Against Weezy

[shakobe]

Im Talkin Bout N1ggas Like Rakim, Dig Daddy Kane,

These N1ggaz Could Not Fukk Wit The N1ggas Out Today Like Weezy And Jr Writer. Could You Imagine These Old Ass N1ggas Tryin To Use Them Simples Ass Rhymes Schemes They Used Back In The Day Just To Get Murked Badly

Example: Gangstarr Feat Jadakiss Rite Where U Stand

It Was No Contest The N1gga Guru Got Murdered On His Own Sh1t

[Knowl]

Im Talkin Bout N1ggas Like Rakim, Dig Daddy Kane, Krs One
These N1ggaz Could Not Fukk Wit The N1ggas Out Today Like Weezy And Jr Writer. Could You Imagine These Old Ass N1ggas Tryin To Use Them Simples Ass Rhymes Schemes They Used Back In The Day Just To Get Murked Badly
Example: Gangstarr Feat Jadakiss Rite Where U Stand
It Was No Contest The N1gga Guru Got Murdered On His Own Sh1tur f*cking crazy homie.... especially when talkin about Ra and Kane.... **** really kris too..... and of all cats to compare them to you chose Lil Wayne... Wayne ain't nohtin more than a dope mixtape artist.... his albums are ****.... you comparing him to cats who have dropped CLASSIC albums in EVERY MEANING OF THE WORD. Your talkin about cats who changed the game LITERALLY..... pioneers, fathers of hip hop, layers of the foundation... etc

Wayne is nice on mixtapes, but lyrically, he could never f*ck with Rakim.

[JacksonDane]

Wayne, Cass and JR would murder them in a straight street battle... that's one hunnid

not one of them old cats could defeat em acapella battling



we all saw what Cass did to Freeway, and technically speaking Free is way ahead of most old school dudes :smoker:

[shakobe]

ur f*cking crazy homie.... especially when talkin about Ra and Kane.... **** really kris too..... and of all cats to compare them to you chose Lil Wayne... Wayne ain't nohtin more than a dope mixtape artist.... his albums are ****.... you comparing him to cats who have dropped CLASSIC albums in EVERY MEANING OF THE WORD. Your talkin about cats who changed the game LITERALLY..... pioneers, fathers of hip hop, layers of the foundation... etc
Wayne is nice on mixtapes, but lyrically, he could never f*ck with Rakim.

its just like basketball

allen iverson woulda crossed the **** outta that puzzy n1gga rick barry

[Uptown B. Fresh]

Don't kow about JR Writer, but Wayne is technically a better rapper than those dudes, They mostly get props for pionerring, nothin wrong with that but really if someone came on the scene with the same shhit they spit TODAY they would be clowned. But the NY dikkriders and grampas will tell you diffrent. I like Rakim too.

[Rzarector7]

Guru is not Rakim or Kane or KRS lyrically for one..... Jada is nicer than Wayne for two.


For three, do you sit at home and thinking of the stupidest fukkin post you can post everyday for replies?

[Rzarector7]

Don't kow about JR Writer, but Wayne is technically a better rapper than those dudes, They mostly get props for pionerring, nothin wrong with that but really if someone came on the scene with the same shhit they spit TODAY they would be clowned. But the NY dikkriders and grampas will tell you diffrent. I like Rakim too.
For their time they were better, fukk times change and styles.... Ten years from now you will be saying the same about Wayne and Writer. They are not in their time what Ra, Kane or KRS were in their times, which were some of if not the best out there. You talking about old rhyme schemes and so on right? Well of course it was different then, did not make it any less better than todays sh*t, and if you listen to songs like Raw or Know the ledge by kane and Ra then you see dudes were lyrically way ahead of their time. Wayne and Writer aint sh*t we aint heard before man, Ra, Kane and KRS were.....

[Uptown B. Fresh]

For their time they were better, fukk times change and styles.... Ten years from now you will be saying the same about Wayne and Writer. They are not in their time what Ra, Kane or KRS were in their times, which were some of if not the best out there. You talking about old rhyme schemes and so on right? Well of course it was different then, did not make it any less better than todays sh*t, and if you listen to songs like Raw or Know the ledge by kane and Ra then you see dudes were lyrically way ahead of their time. Wayne and Writer aint sh*t we aint heard before man, Ra, Kane and KRS were.....

It was diffrent then but does that make the raps technically just as good? No. If Wayne was rapping then (80's) witht the style/rhymes he has now, you don't think niqqas qould be like :ohmy: :ohmy: who the fukk is this guy? Now reverse the situation, put KRS in 06, a new artist comin out with rhymes like he did when he first dropped :dry:. It's like basketball, the best players from the 60,70's,80's wouldn't be able to fukk with the Wade's,Kobe's,Vince's of the game cause their skills are technically alot better.

[Knowl]

I forgot how young ma f*ckas on here are..... I very seriously doubt either of you have ever even sat down and really listened to any of those cats......

if ya'll don't like old school hip hop.... listen to Rakim's The 18th Letter or The Master. Those are late 90's releases from Rakim. Listen to those then tell me Wayne is f*ckin wit him lyrically.

Damn I just remembered, Big Daddy Kane dropped a new album earlier this year. I think it was called Veteranz's Day or something like that. That sh!t is waayyyy dope lyrically.

Go f*ck with those albums then tell me something......

LIke I said I doubt ya'll even listen to the ma f*ckas ya'll are talkin about, therefore you shouldn't talk

[keon]

kool G rap would sh1t on weezy TODAY..

[Uptown B. Fresh]

I forgot how young ma f*ckas on here are..... I very seriously doubt either of you have ever even sat down and really listened to any of those cats......
if ya'll don't like old school hip hop.... listen to Rakim's The 18th Letter or The Master. Those are late 90's releases from Rakim. Listen to those then tell me Wayne is f*ckin wit him lyrically.
Damn I just remembered, Big Daddy Kane dropped a new album earlier this year. I think it was called Veteranz's Day or something like that. That sh!t is waayyyy dope lyrically.
Go f*ck with those albums then tell me something......
LIke I said I doubt ya'll even listen to the ma f*ckas ya'll are talkin about, therefore you shouldn't talk

I own both those Rakim albums dude is dope as fukk and deserves all the props he gets but just listen to that track he did with Hov, niqqa got brutaly outshined, and his verse on that So Addictive track, Wayne freestyled over that and it was 34X better, I'm not talkin albums here, but Weezy could definitley hold his own in a cypher with Rakim. Kool G would rape him though (fav. ol skool rapper)

[Uptown B. Fresh]

kool G rap would sh1t on weezy TODAY..
I agree :yes:

[pop203]

this is obviously a shockthread but lil weezy is a mirage, lol, that n*gga is equivilent to seeing a Bentley down the block that sparks your curiosity so you drive towards it to see it up close, and that's when you realize that it's only a 300C and you're disappointed as hell. He makes you think he's nice because he spits phors and got a nice flow but once you really actually listen to what he's saying you realize how average the sh*t actually is. "like ranch, i dip"? yeah, groundbreaking. his flow is the only thing that makes him a little better than average

[Uptown B. Fresh]

this is obviously a shockthread but lil weezy is a mirage, lol, that n*gga is equivilent to seeing a Bentley down the block that sparks your curiosity so you drive towards it to see it up close, and that's when you realize that it's only a 300C and you're disappointed as hell. He makes you think he's nice because he spits phors and got a nice flow but once you really actually listen to what he's saying you realize how average the sh*t actually is. "like ranch, i dip"? yeah, groundbreaking. his flow is the only thing that makes him a little better than average

^Never heard Wayne's best shhit I suppose?
:thumbsdow

[pop203]

^Never heard Wayne's best shhit I suppose?
:thumbsdow

i'm a fan son, i like dude, but read the title of this thread, come on. lil wayne is better than most of the n*ggas in his class in todays rap game, I'll give him that, but that don't take away from the fact that he is severely overrated. he's like a poor, simple man's version of Jigga.

[shakobe]

I forgot how young ma f*ckas on here are..... I very seriously doubt either of you have ever even sat down and really listened to any of those cats......
if ya'll don't like old school hip hop.... listen to Rakim's The 18th Letter or The Master. Those are late 90's releases from Rakim. Listen to those then tell me Wayne is f*ckin wit him lyrically.
Damn I just remembered, Big Daddy Kane dropped a new album earlier this year. I think it was called Veteranz's Day or something like that. That sh!t is waayyyy dope lyrically.
Go f*ck with those albums then tell me something......
LIke I said I doubt ya'll even listen to the ma f*ckas ya'll are talkin about, therefore you shouldn't talk

sorry but i cant listen to sh1t older than 2003 if i missed than i missed it

[keon]

i think comparing mid 80's/early 90's rap 2 todays rap is like comparing 70's R&B to anything after that...

that 70's sh1t was felt the most cuz it was the realest, same goes 4 this rap sh1t, point blank.

[shakobe]

For their time they were better, fukk times change and styles.... Ten years from now you will be saying the same about Wayne and Writer. They are not in their time what Ra, Kane or KRS were in their times, which were some of if not the best out there. You talking about old rhyme schemes and so on right? Well of course it was different then, did not make it any less better than todays sh*t, and if you listen to songs like Raw or Know the ledge by kane and Ra then you see dudes were lyrically way ahead of their time. Wayne and Writer aint sh*t we aint heard before man, Ra, Kane and KRS were.....

shut yo b1tch ass up fukk n1gga

[Koolest]

sorry but i cant listen to sh1t older than 2003 if i missed than i missed it

Exactly.....what a stupid ass ******.....this n*gga don't listen to old school stuff but makes a bold statement to say old school cats would get murked by a little midget rapping about bling bling.......young dumb ass n*ggas always are quick to diss old school......but DON'T KNOW THE OLD SCHOOL.

[shakobe]

Exactly.....what a stupid ass ******.....this n*gga don't listen to old school stuff but makes a bold statement to say old school cats would get murked by a little midget rapping about bling bling.......young dumb ass n*ggas always are quick to diss old school......but DON'T KNOW THE OLD SCHOOL.

shut the fukk up puzzy n1gga

[black republican]

lmfao. good one, shakobe.

[hexagram23]

If it was a contest to see who would kiss another grown man in the mouth, Weezy would take it easily. Other wise, f*ck no. Clown ass.

Fred.

[JacksonDane]

I forgot how young ma f*ckas on here are..... I very seriously doubt either of you have ever even sat down and really listened to any of those cats......
if ya'll don't like old school hip hop.... listen to Rakim's The 18th Letter or The Master. Those are late 90's releases from Rakim. Listen to those then tell me Wayne is f*ckin wit him lyrically.
Damn I just remembered, Big Daddy Kane dropped a new album earlier this year. I think it was called Veteranz's Day or something like that. That sh!t is waayyyy dope lyrically.
Go f*ck with those albums then tell me something......
LIke I said I doubt ya'll even listen to the ma f*ckas ya'll are talkin about, therefore you shouldn't talk

how u gon tell me that something is waaay dope lyrically, and you aint even sure what the name of the album is?

[shakobe]

If it was a contest to see who would kiss another grown man in the mouth, Weezy would take it easily. Other wise, f*ck no. Clown ass.
Fred.

get the fukk outta my thread wit this faggit sh1t puzzy n1gga i'll make you stand da fukk down


fred.

[Wpns Grd Plutonium]

And here we have a below average shock thread. No need to respond, just give it the 1-star salute and keep it moving.

[shakobe]

And here we have a below average shock thread. No need to respond, just give it the 1-star salute and keep it moving.
and you still post in it fukk outta my thread you soft ass lil fukk n1ggai

[AmThx]

Planet, Earth, was my place of birth
Born to be the soul controller of the universe
Besides the part of the map I hit first
Any environment I can adapt when it gets worst
The rough gets goin, the goin gets rough
When I start flowin, the mic might bust
The next state I shake from the power I generate
People in Cali used to think it was earthquakes
Cause times was hard on the Boulevard
So I vote God and never get scarred and gauled
But it seems like I'm locked in hell
Lookin over the edge but the R never fell
A trip to slip cause my Nikes got grip
Stand on my own two feet and come equipped
Any stage I'm seen on, or mic I fiend on
I stand alone and need nothin to lean on
Going for self with a long way to go
So much to say but I still flow slow
I come correct and I won't look back
Cause it ain't where you're from, it's where you're at
Even the (ghetto)

[Rakim]
I learn to relax in my room and escape from New York
And return through the womb of the world as a thought
Thinkin how hard it was to be born
Me bein cream with no physical form
Millions of cells with one destination
to reach the best part as life's creation
Nine months later, a job well done
Make way, cause here I come
Since I made it this far I can't stop now
There's a will and a way and I got the know-how
To be, all I can be and more
And see, all there is to see before
I'm called to go back to the essence
It's a lot to learn so I study, my lessons
I thought the ghetto was the worst that could happen to me
I'm glad I listened when my father was rappin to me
Cause back in the days, they lived in caves
Exiled from the original man, they strayed away
Now that's what I call hard times
I'd rather be here to exercise the mind
Then I take a thought around the world twice
From knowledge to born back to knowledge precise
Across the desert, that's hot as the Arabian
But they couldn't cave me in, cause I'm the Asian
Reachin for the city of Mecca, visit Medina
Visions of Nefertiti, then I seen a
mind keeps traveling, I'll be back after
I stop and think about the brothers and sisters in Africa
Return the thought through the eye of a needle
For miles I thought and I just brought the people
Under the dark skies, on a dark side
Not only there, but right here's an apartheid
So now is the time for us to react
Take a trip through the mind and when you get back
Understand your third eye seen all of that
It ain't where you're from, it's where you're at
Even the (ghetto)
Even the (ghetto)

[Rakim]
No more props, I want property, in every borough
Nobody's stoppin me, because I'm thorough
Rhymes I make gimme real estate for me to own
Wherever I bless a microphone
Double-oh-seven is back and relaxin
On point and reactin, and ready for action
I'm so low key that you might not see me
Incognito, and takin it easy (ghetto)
Quiet as kept on a hush hush
In front of a crowd, I get loud, there's a bumrush
Be calm, keep a low pro and play the background
Hopin the whack rapper put the mic back down
So rip it, break it in half, go 'head and slam it
Cause when it's time to build I'm a mechanic
of bondin and mendin, attachin and blendin
So many solos, there is no endin
People in my neighborhood, they know I'm good
From London to Hollywood, wherever I stood
Footprints remain on stage ever since
Sidewalks and streets, I leave fossils and dents
When I had sex, I left my name on necks
My trademark was left throughout the projects
I used to get rich when I played c-lo
When I rolled 4, 5, 6, they go, "We know"
So I collect my cash then slide
I've got my back, my gun's on my side
It shouldn't have to be like that
I guess it ain't where you're from, it's where you're at
Even the (ghetto)
I'm from the (ghetto)
Worrrd up
Peace

This song >>> Weezy's family tree.

[shakobe]

:rolleyes:

[Rzarector7]

shut yo b1tch ass up fukk n1gga
Ur a fukkin clown, can't answer it so you say this.... your shock threads aint sh*t. :thumbsdow

[MaCRonI]

Give up..yo crabs don't know hat real hiph-op iz...the fukk is you tlakin' about..........JrWriter wuold die against jeru Da damaja or Cormega!!! Rakim,KRS, and LL could definately brak the neck of any Mc who steps outta line!!!!

[JUSE_HEDD]

and you still post in it fukk outta my thread you soft ass lil fukk n1ggai

I'ma see this b!tch a$$ n!gga with the 4-5 and the duce duce

real sh!t homie I'm comin with them flamers for ya a$$ g

[shakobe]

Ur a fukkin clown, can't answer it so you say this.... your shock threads aint sh*t. :thumbsdow

how is this a shock thread you had this comin

i even pushed it back a couple of days

http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=764009

[GoodDoctorZeus]

Im Talkin Bout N1ggas Like Rakim, Dig Daddy Kane, Krs One
These N1ggaz Could Not Fukk Wit The N1ggas Out Today Like Weezy And Jr Writer. Could You Imagine These Old Ass N1ggas Tryin To Use Them Simples Ass Rhymes Schemes They Used Back In The Day Just To Get Murked Badly
Example: Gangstarr Feat Jadakiss Rite Where U Stand
It Was No Contest The N1gga Guru Got Murdered On His Own Sh1t

This just tells me you don't know what the **** you are talking about and have never actually heard these guys rhyme. Have you ever heard Raw? Follow the Leader? Step into a World? Those are the definition of fierce as hell lyrical battle rhymes. Weezy is shook of Gillie let alone three legends. Rakim, BDK, and KRS-One would never write something as jaw droppingly wack as "Dear Mr. Toilet, I'm the ****." I've said it before and I'll say it again, Wayne is only considered great right now in comparison because of the sorry state of hip hop. Please go home with your wannabe Goonie/YDB ass!

[NotSoft]

the threadstarter speaks the truth. Nelly shouldve been a wake up call to these old faggots. Krs one was at BEST was lyrically equal to Nelly who these guys say is the wackest alive. Thats why nelly sonnin that old foo was so great cuz it also sonnned his old ass fans.

[NotSoft]

and o yea i wouldnt throw ra and grap in there cuz they were ahead of they time. Just like some cats from 96 wouldve still been doin it big today ie big and pac had they lived. Thats the best way to seperate the goats from the rest.

[THACEO]

shock thread.
do wayne's album touch yall youngns the way albums/songs from the late 80s/early 90s touched us? doubt it.
if wayne died today would he be top 10? no. if ludacris died today he wouldnt be top 5 and he's better than lil wayne.

[galvatron]

This is a shock thread unless my daughter made it cause I can see a 7 year old thinking this

[Rzarector7]

the threadstarter speaks the truth. Nelly shouldve been a wake up call to these old faggots. Krs one was at BEST was lyrically equal to Nelly who these guys say is the wackest alive. Thats why nelly sonnin that old foo was so great cuz it also sonnned his old ass fans.
KRS Sonned his damn self taking it so seriously, Nelly didnt' son anyone on records so stop this fukkin nonsense... Off here nobody talks about it, only online KRS got sonned by Nelly. Nelly didn't son sh*t really, dudes response wasn't even that good, KRS sonned himself on that one, stop this misconception. Do you ever make a decent post in here?

[x2y]

lol @ this sh!t, shakobe going platinum.

[houston911]

It was diffrent then but does that make the raps technically just as good? No. If Wayne was rapping then (80's) witht the style/rhymes he has now, you don't think niqqas qould be like :ohmy: :ohmy: who the fukk is this guy? Now reverse the situation, put KRS in 06, a new artist comin out with rhymes like he did when he first dropped :dry:. It's like basketball, the best players from the 60,70's,80's wouldn't be able to fukk with the Wade's,Kobe's,Vince's of the game cause their skills are technically alot better.

But he wouldnt have been rappng like that. Nobody gave a fukk about wayne until he became an east coast rapper living in the south.

rakim is a pioneer, waynes a follower. dont get me wrong,,waynes nice but i see it like this. lets say we get assigned to write a paper. you do your shyt from scratch, but i get to look at a lot of examples, see which ones the teachers like the most and base my shyt off that, steal from that style. thats what newnikkas et to do

[Uptown B. Fresh]

But he wouldnt have been rappng like that. Nobody gave a fukk about wayne until he became an east coast rapper living in the south.
rakim is a pioneer, waynes a follower. dont get me wrong,,waynes nice but i see it like this. lets say we get assigned to write a paper. you do your shyt from scratch, but i get to look at a lot of examples, see which ones the teachers like the most and base my shyt off that, steal from that style. thats what newnikkas et to do

How is Wayne a "east-coast rapper"? he's from the south, reps the south, he just doesn't use simple rhyme schemes and yell all the time, so automatically he's not really a "southern" rapper? Cassidy,Fab,JaeMillz,Murda Mook and niqqas like that all have the same style the set-up bar-punchline shhit, Wayne never has rapped like that, his flow,style,voice,cadence is all his own, I agree he uses the Hov-whisper flow sometimes but so does Lupe and Joe Budden, doesn't make him any less dope or any less of a southern rapper.

Everyone is infulenced by someone, Nas-Rakim, Pun-Kool G Rap, Jay-Nas,Biggie,Big L, Lupe-Jay you get my point. Wayne uses multi's,punchlines,wordplay and diffrent styles all the time, dude is versatile as fukk but the blind hate on this site would never acknowledge that. He bodied everyone on that "Cannon" freestyle, 6 minutes with Cass and Fab and is makin Juelz look stupid on that Cant Feel My Face, he ain't just any old run of the mill generic emcee.

[NYC Rebel]

Lil Wayne is that dude.

His style fits well to the up north ear.

[Shot 9 Times]

"I'm just miraculous, accurate, that's the half of it, mastered this, I can laugh at this, show you jus' how a savage get"-JR Writer

:ohmy:

[westkoast2k2]

There is only one thing wrong with this thread....

Wayne and JR Writer wouldn't have the same style they do now if it wasn't for some of those pioneers like BDK and Rakim creating new styles/rhyme paterns/etc.

In fact Birdman Jr def would not sound the same considering he sounds somewhat like Jay now and Jay was heavily influenced by Jaz and Big Daddy Kane.

The dunk didn't come before the layup...put it that way.

[Obvious Man]

LL in a battle would serve Wayne...and I aint no LL fan and Weezie is my nicca...

but of course, this kid is like 16 and has no fukkin idea wtf he's talkin about

[Obvious Man]

"I'm just miraculous, accurate, that's the half of it, mastered this, I can laugh at this, show you jus' how a savage get"-JR Writer
:ohmy:

how is that nice?

[Uptown B. Fresh]

There is only one thing wrong with this thread....
Wayne and JR Writer wouldn't have the same style they do now if it wasn't for some of those pioneers like BDK and Rakim creating new styles/rhyme paterns/etc.
In fact Birdman Jr def would not sound the same considering he sounds somewhat like Jay now and Jay was heavily influenced by Jaz and Big Daddy Kane.
The dunk didn't come before the layup...put it that way.

So basically no one is as nice as who came before them because they did it first?

[westkoast2k2]

So basically no one is as nice as who came before them because they did it first?

Thats not what I am saying, what I am saying is if those guys didn't develop styles and come up with new ways to rhyme....your favorite MCs of today wouldn't sound the same.

Like I said, the dunk did not come before the layup. Someone did the layup first then the next dood came along and said 'Imma go one up from that'

[Mr. Smoke Weed]

lol@these newjacks 2005 hip hoppers

[shakobe]

Cause I'ma rippity rap, rip up and rap, rip in a rap
Rap in a writ, rip like a mystery pack
That still rip when he rap, rippin was rap, rappin is rip
No cuts, rips in my wristery wrap scrap

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rakim