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Puff Daddy has a history just like all of us do except that his image has been softened. When he was broke he was like every other cut-throat, money hungry NY cat you see in the borough today. He crossed Pac either by proxy or indirectly industy-wise. The street sh!t played out on tv only because that is what was televised. The truth is stranger than fiction. Pac was not completely paranoid. Alot of people wanted to harm him because he was exposing them. There is 6 degrees of separation in the streets. You deal with street cats, street sh!t happens. Pac unfortunately was "too real" and trust there is such a thing. As someone who has direct links to his family I would advise you all to stop snitching online. Them people are watching.
vocab spill
07-20-06, 04:00 PM
Excellent read, I'd like to read more about Haitian Jack and his connection wit the shooting.
I still don't see why Puff would have Pac shot. They was supposed to be cool at the time, and Big was his man. That's what happens tho when art starts to imitate life.
Puff is coolin wit Henchmen, Tut, and Jack, something is bound to pop-off and if Puff set somethin up wit Tut, Biggie had to knew what was goin on.
If Pac pointed out Tut, (snitchin), why did he always blame Big? 'Cause he thought Big knew and didn't tell him or he thought he set him up?
he didnt blame big for the shooting, he blamed big for not watchin his back
thats a biitch move, if you got robbed and shot and your homeboy was cool with the people that did it and didnt say shiit to you, how would you feel? especially since you put food in that niiggas mouth, let him sleep in your crib, etc
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07-20-06, 04:01 PM
No my definition of a G is what a real legit street n_ _ _ _a is. no one who had to go and hang around gangsters who he could appear to be gangster.
Ice T said it himself "pac wasnt a gangster b4 he was rappin Pac didnt get gangster until after he got famous thats when he started to wild out, and we was mad at him because of that" those are Ice T's words. Now Ice T is a true G. not Pac
ice t is a salty old niigga with a big mouth, pac was more of a g then ice t ever dreamed
I dont give a fuuck if ice t pimped women or sold guns, let someone stick a gun in that niiggaz face and he gon give up the goods
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 04:02 PM
Ice T was never a "gangsta" he was a pimp.
Pac talked about getting into that life but people told him to use his talent to be something bigger then that. He's said it in a few songs.
Ice T was a gansgter, they robbed jeweltry stores and all types of shiit. check his file. he's official
SUGEKNIGHTJR.
07-20-06, 04:02 PM
:laugh: damn....them true 2pac fans are like a fukkin gang.them fools will straight try to KILL YOU!!!
biggie fan..."fukk tupac:dry:"
tupac fan....":violent:"
biggie fan.... ":confused: are you sreious?"
:bustback: :weirdo:
As hilarous as that is..mayne that shyt is kinda true, i remember messing with this one chick around 1998, watching video talking about our favorite rappers, of course she pulls Tupac out her ass as being the best..
I'm like ..... :D whatever.....
Dat byatch gave me the meanest look i seen since my mama beat me for spilling the Kool Aid (red flava) on her new carpet.
Then she went to tell me some stories about how heated she got with guys whom dissed Pac in front of her... i'm like :weirdo:
Shyt, must have been serious, cause i didn't get no puzzy from her after that exchange :mad:
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07-20-06, 04:04 PM
My point is, he didnt start acting Like a G until after the movie "Juice" and he started hanging around gangster type dudes. thats why he started to wild out, so he could prove that he was hard too. He hung around them so he could get a thug image, and they hung around him because they wanted to be in the music business(Jack and Tut).
He got shot by Hatian Jack's gun which Pac was carrying for him. Pac would carry their guns for them because they were convicted fellons and faced long jail time had they been caught, carrying a gun. The gun was on his waste, he never tried to pull it out, the gun went off when he hit the floor. thats why I said he shot himself. what he did do was grab at the dude who robbed him gun, thats how he got shot in the hand.
he grew up around "gangster type dudes"
they was the one that was giving him money to buy food when he was homeless, pac wasnt a drug dealer but he was a g
gangsters and hustlers saw potential in pac
JusticefrmQueens
07-20-06, 04:04 PM
Puff Daddy has a history just like all of us do except that his image has been softened. When he was broke he was like every other cut-throat, money hungry NY cat you see in the borough today. He crossed Pac either by proxy or indirectly industy-wise. The street sh!t played out on tv only because that is what was televised. The truth is stranger than fiction. Pac was not completely paranoid. Alot of people wanted to harm him because he was exposing them. There is 6 degrees of separation in the streets. You deal with street cats, street sh!t happens. Pac unfortunately was "too real" and trust there is such a thing. As someone who has direct links to his family I would advise you all to stop snitching online. Them people are watching.
yall have totally lost me.
JusticefrmQueens
07-20-06, 04:06 PM
As hilarous as that is..mayne that shyt is kinda true, i remember messing with this one chick around 1998, watching video talking about our favorite rappers, of course she pulls Tupac out her ass as being the best..
I'm like ..... :D whatever.....
Dat byatch gave me the meanest look i seen since my mama beat me for spilling the Kool Aid (red flava) on her new carpet.
Then she went to tell me some stories about how heated she got with guys whom dissed Pac in front of her... i'm like :weirdo:
Shyt, must have been serious, cause i didn't get no puzzy from her after that exchange :mad:
now thats funny
nah nobody is thinking about pac like that - pac had legitimate dealings with those cats
and pac's reaction for his attempted robbery should seal the deal for you if he was a g or not
if you dont think pac was a g, then your definition of a g is whack
Dog you sound like a hater. Pac was a G. Do you know any real gangsters that will hang out with these fake rappers without extorting them? These cats were dickriders bottom line. Check the lineage of the Shakur family mayne. These people are not no wankstas- they embody the struggle and pain of the race. Pac is the only niqqa to go to Kashmir ALONE. I dare you cats to try that. The reason he bucked tha jack is because he was "too live for a robbery". Pac had a lot of fake friends and associates like everyone. EVERYBODY wanted to roll with Pac, not the other way around so get your mind correct. Digital Underground was a means to an end. As I remember it Jay Z used to roll with the Hawaiin Sofie guy too. What does that mean? Exactly.
JusticefrmQueens
07-20-06, 04:08 PM
ice t is a salty old niigga with a big mouth, pac was more of a g then ice t ever dreamed
I dont give a fuuck if ice t pimped women or sold guns, let someone stick a gun in that niiggaz face and he gon give up the goods
It may have been after he got shot but even the Mighty Pac had to give up the goods
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07-20-06, 04:09 PM
As hilarous as that is..mayne that shyt is kinda true, i remember messing with this one chick around 1998, watching video talking about our favorite rappers, of course she pulls Tupac out her ass as being the best..
I'm like ..... :D whatever.....
Dat byatch gave me the meanest look i seen since my mama beat me for spilling the Kool Aid (red flava) on her new carpet.
Then she went to tell me some stories about how heated she got with guys whom dissed Pac in front of her... i'm like :weirdo:
Shyt, must have been serious, cause i didn't get no puzzy from her after that exchange :mad:
niiggas dont diss pac around me....
actually niiggas dont diss pac at all really, only people I EVER see hating on pac in person is white people and puerto ricans...
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 04:09 PM
he grew up around "gangster type dudes"
they was the one that was giving him money to buy food when he was homeless, pac wasnt a drug dealer but he was a g
gangsters and hustlers saw potential in pac
2Pac sold drugs, but he was a fukkin punk. Remeber thug immortal 2Pac taking a self defense class at teh yMCA, they crawling in the fetal position when some bnigguhz rolled on him.
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07-20-06, 04:11 PM
It may have been after he got shot but even the Mighty Pac had to give up the goods
yeah but he didnt do it without a fight
ya need to stop hating on pac ya backward ass counterevolutionary type niiggas :dry:
god forbid theres a black male in this society that we can look up to
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 04:12 PM
ice t is a salty old niigga with a big mouth, pac was more of a g then ice t ever dreamed
I dont give a fuuck if ice t pimped women or sold guns, let someone stick a gun in that niiggaz face and he gon give up the goods
Yeah, but is he gonan quit being a"thug" and say i'm not built for this., like 2Puss did? @Pac is a soldier, a thug, a gansgtsa, how you gonan be all that and quit when **** gets thick? If anything a nigguh pulling a gun and lplugging you is gionna make you even more crazy, but no 2Pac quit . He then got a back bone by rolling wit the bloods. 2Pac is a fake as tehy come.
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07-20-06, 04:13 PM
2Pac sold drugs, but he was a fukkin punk. Remeber thug immortal 2Pac taking a self defense class at teh yMCA, they crawling in the fetal position when some bnigguhz rolled on him.
pac sold weed for a month...
any niigga could get jumped
you're white, you're stupid, what are you really saying? :rolleyes:
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 04:18 PM
pac sold weed for a month...
any niigga could get jumped
you're white, you're stupid, what are you really saying? :rolleyes:
2Pac was a queer.
ANy nigguh can get jumped but how many nigguhz fall into the4 fetal position? hopw many nigguhz take self defense @ the YMCA?
JusticefrmQueens
07-20-06, 04:34 PM
yeah but he didnt do it without a fight
ya need to stop hating on pac ya backward ass counterevolutionary type niiggas :dry:
god forbid theres a black male in this society that we can look up to
Backward ass counterrevoulutionary. what ever B. Is Pac really who you look up to, then I feel sorry for you, how ignorant is that. I dont look up to anyone in the music industry, you really think they give a f_ _k about you. the only thing they care about is you buyin the record. you the backward one B. I aint hatin on Pac I liked his music, I just dont buy that he was this larger than life thug. do you look up to him because he was a wanna be thug that was making money off of his persona? Is that who you wanna be like.
These are the black men I look up to besides my pops, if you dont know who they are then look them up. you have a better chance at becoming one of them than to be the next wanna be thug rapper.
Clarence Otis, Aylwin lewis, Arthur Harper, Reginald Davis, Stanley Oniel, Richard parson, Clinton Wharton, Kenneth Chenault, Bob Johnson
SUGEKNIGHTJR.
07-20-06, 04:39 PM
niiggas dont diss pac around me....
actually niiggas dont diss pac at all really, only people I EVER see hating on pac in person is white people and puerto ricans...
I guess you never been to the Tri State...cause i can't count the amount of N.Y, N.J, CONN cats whom diss Pac with no hesitation.
DMX happens to be the most infamous one, if anybody remember that interview in that XXL issue of the making of Makevelli.
FlavaUpNorth
07-20-06, 05:04 PM
Yeah, but is he gonan quit being a"thug" and say i'm not built for this., like 2Puss did? @Pac is a soldier, a thug, a gansgtsa, how you gonan be all that and quit when **** gets thick? If anything a nigguh pulling a gun and lplugging you is gionna make you even more crazy, but no 2Pac quit . He then got a back bone by rolling wit the bloods. 2Pac is a fake as tehy come.
Yea comin from mr. "A cube is a square"
rap-fan-unlimited
07-20-06, 05:11 PM
Say whatever you want about Pac. The fact(s) remain. He is the most misunderstood, imitated but never duplicated, evolving artist of this current time. Love him or Hate him his mark is undeniable. While people can cast stones, didn't DMX and Ja both bite Pac? As well as several other artists. For those who didnt like Pac or thought he wasnt gangster enough or whatever, that shyt goes out the window. His Mother Afeni-BP was pregnant with him in jail, it dont get no harder than that. Digital Underground is a very underappreciated group as well as Shock G being one of the best producers period.
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 05:28 PM
Say whatever you want about Pac. The fact(s) remain. He is the most misunderstood, imitated but never duplicated, evolving artist of this current time. Love him or Hate him his mark is undeniable. While people can cast stones, didn't DMX and Ja both bite Pac? As well as several other artists. For those who didnt like Pac or thought he wasnt gangster enough or whatever, that shyt goes out the window. His Mother Afeni-BP was pregnant with him in jail, it dont get no harder than that. Digital Underground is a very underappreciated group as well as Shock G being one of the best producers period.
BEsides being black and bald, DMX and Ja are nothing like 2Pac.
Wwo! He's hard because his momma was a crackwhore and was in jail while she was pregnant fukk outtahere.
The fukk does DU and Shock g have to dow it shiit?
treezee
07-20-06, 05:39 PM
Wwo! He's hard because his momma was a crackwhore and was in jail while she was pregnant fukk outtahere.
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SMH @ this cracka not knowing about the Black Panthers:dry:
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 05:41 PM
SMH @ this cracka not knowing about the Black Panthers:dry:
She still a crackwhore. i don't care if she was in the Black panters or the president of the usa she's still a crack whore. "Crack fiend momma"
SCOLLAVELLI.
07-20-06, 05:49 PM
nah nah, maybe i worded it wrong...SHYNE said that about PUFF...it was like 5 pages of Shyne straight sh1ttin on Puff for dry snitchin...then its a page of Shynes mom sh1ttin on Puff and how he called her a year after the sentencing to offer her $3500 (ya right, thatll take care of someone)...and then its a page of Puffs rebuttle.
Someone tell me where i post the scans n sh1t and ill do it some day...but Wolf is mentioned a few times by Po...it was basically, Po, Puff, and Wolf...Puff got some b1tch to testify against Po...Po manned up and didnt snitch on anybody. Puff got Cochrane, Po got his own team...but according to Puff that was Po's choice.
Wolf fukked Po over too...he was tellin lies makin Po look like a wild street dude in the club bustin his gat for no reason, even said he tried to talk sense into Po by Saying "What the fukk are you doing man!"...which Po denied 100%...so it coulda just as easily been Shynes people that murked Wolf...or Suges ppl from the Atlanta incident that sparked the whole East/West...OR a BMF affiliate from a fallout...I dont think that was Puff.
Mr. Belvedere
07-20-06, 06:01 PM
I always told cats this bout Puff, I read his book by Ronin' Ro, Puff did some street sh*t back in his uptown days...90-93 that cats wouldnt believe.
He wants the world to thing of him as a soft corny, dancing, I need a girl type Well, what the fuk did he do? Why the fuk are you teasing?
SUGEKNIGHTJR.
07-20-06, 06:04 PM
Scolla, even though we both went off the tangent by referring to Wolf's murder in ATL, it still holds some relevence...it's always been my perspective that Wolf and Meech fell out over something LARGER than some stripper byatch, that was a definite smokescreen. And i don't care what our "resident BMF member" DAREALEST says, it sounds like bullshyt.
Coverup is written all over it, Meech following this whole scenario got treated like a king in ATL, i got a dvd where these muthaphukas was giving a police escort , as they drove thier luxury automobiles through peachtree.
And the fact that Wolf was found with like over 10,000 in his pockets after shooting is even more suspicious, so i think it was a bigger situation, and Puff does look suspect, even as author Ethan Brown pointed out, Puff didn't "blink one eye" in regards to this situation and not even a year after Wolf's death had already signed Meech "boy" Young Jeezy to an almost unheard of one album deal (BOYZ N' DA HOOD) with the option of leaving after just doing one single with BAD BOY.
The situation was so odd, that even BOYZ N' DA HOOD member Jody Breeze talked about Jeezy with anger over the fact that Jeezy showed no commitment to the group, but as Jeezy said in OZONE.."this was a deal between bosses, and Puff knew i would only be there for that one time"
So i don't know what to make of the whole situation, it just adds more mystery to an already perplexing situation.
And although KING TUT might have failed to even convince half of the posters in this thread, i do agree with his one statement that this is WAY MORE BIGGER than we think, with all these smokescreens and coverups, i swear this muthaphuka (TUT) is gonna end up like an urban Jeffrey Lee Oswald of hip hop, a dude was clearly involved but was coaxed into participating because of bigger forces behind him pulling the strings.
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 06:05 PM
Well, what the fuk did he do? Why the fuk are you teasing?
he beat up andre harrael
Mr. Belvedere
07-20-06, 06:10 PM
Dog you sound like a hater. Pac was a G. Do you know any real gangsters that will hang out with these fake rappers without extorting them? These cats were dickriders bottom line. Check the lineage of the Shakur family mayne. These people are not no wankstas- they embody the struggle and pain of the race. Pac is the only niqqa to go to Kashmir ALONE. I dare you cats to try that. The reason he bucked tha jack is because he was "too live for a robbery". Pac had a lot of fake friends and associates like everyone. EVERYBODY wanted to roll with Pac, not the other way around so get your mind correct. Digital Underground was a means to an end. As I remember it Jay Z used to roll with the Hawaiin Sofie guy too. What does that mean? Exactly.
Pac went to Kashmir? hahaha When the fuk did he do that? That's sounds ridiculous. Why would he go to Kashmir of all countries?
SCOLLAVELLI.
07-20-06, 06:10 PM
Scolla, even though we both went off the tangent by referring to Wolf's murder in ATL, it still holds some relevence...it's always been my perspective that Wolf and Meech fell out over something LARGER than some stripper byatch, that was a definite smokescreen, and the fact that Wolf was found with like over 10,000 in his pockets, so i think it was a bigger situation, and Puff does look suspect, even as author Ethan Brown pointed out, Puff didn't "blink one eye" in regards to this situation and not even a year after Wolf's death had already signed Meech "boy" Young Jeezy to an almost unheard of one album deal (BOYZ N' DA HOOD) with the option of leaving after just doing one single with BAD BOY.
The situation was so odd, that even BOYZ N' DA HOOD member Jody Breeze talked about Jeezy with anger over the fact that Jeezy showed no commitment to the group, but as Jeezy said in OZONE.."this was a deal between bosses, and Puff knew i would only be there for that one time"
So i don't know what to make of the whole situation, it just adds more mystery to an already perplexing situation.
so basically Puff was doin Meech a huge favor without really gettin anything in return...and since when is Puff known to scratch other ppls backs without his gettin scratched? So how did Meech scratch Puffs back LOL...i dunno but i heard for sure it was Meech who personally murked Wolf
If you kill my close cousin, im not gonna help your man blow and go on to make millions...unless i didnt like my cousin and wanted him dead
Now that we know about Tut...someone post Henchmens history...and how him, Tut, and Puff come together...
SOHH detectives at work
Mr. Belvedere
07-20-06, 06:14 PM
She still a crackwhore. i don't care if she was in the Black panters or the president of the usa she's still a crack whore. "Crack fiend momma"
Where do you get whore from fiend?
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 06:18 PM
Where do you get whore from fiend?
common sense most crackheads are whores.
Mr. Belvedere
07-20-06, 06:19 PM
common sense most crackheads are whores.
Just seemed like you wanted to add some extra disrespect.
SCOLLAVELLI.
07-20-06, 06:39 PM
nah nobody is thinking about pac like that - pac had legitimate dealings with those cats
and pac's reaction for his attempted robbery should seal the deal for you if he was a g or not
if you dont think pac was a g, then your definition of a g is whack
I dont think Pac was a G
Ive seen footage of Pac acting like a straight homo...to turn around with Suge's influence and start wilding out...
to quote one of my dudes...you cant grow into a G...its somethin that you been since adolesence...if somehow a dude turns into a wild out type of guy...hes either drunk or acting...Pac was an actor, soft as miracle whip on the inside
and thats why hes dead
rap-fan-unlimited
07-20-06, 06:39 PM
The fukk does DU and Shock g have to dow it shiit?
:confused:
SUGEKNIGHTJR.
07-20-06, 06:42 PM
so basically Puff was doin Meech a huge favor without really gettin anything in return...and since when is Puff known to scratch other ppls backs without his gettin scratched? So how did Meech scratch Puffs back LOL...i dunno but i heard for sure it was Meech who personally murked Wolf
If you kill my close cousin, im not gonna help your man blow and go on to make millions...unless i didnt like my cousin and wanted him dead
Scolla, what PUFF got out of it, is basically something you can't measure in soundscan sales or billboard awards, Puff has relationships with cats that enable him even as a multimillionaire to maneuver in areas without getting touched, so you best believe street cats play a part.
As Bleu Davinci(BMF) said on the Raw Report ..."it's NOTHING for me to just call up Puff right now and have him on the album, that's just how it is"...
BMF's other well known hustle besides the dope game was and still is the "bodyguard/enforcer/hitmen" field, cats such as Big Bull and Big Rob were hired "muscle" for various cats, regardless of affilation and valued because they were security cats whom were very familiar with the streets.
Big Bull was even so brash as to list his occupation as "hitman" on his myspacepage.com , as i was told by an editor of a publication, there is two main "side hustles" which music industry people usually draw from and that is no#1 drugs and no#2 extortion , usually disguised as security or enforcement, but either way it's a cover, because no music exec should have to feel obligated to give some street cat such as Tut or Meech an entry to the business.
Which makes Puff suspect, cause if you read the article in the magazine, you will notice i EDITED what Tut said he was specifically going to do for Puff and the music industry, this muthaphuka said he wanted to create like some type of group of people that would steer artists away from street elements such as stop a female artist from dating a dope dealer, or keep a certain male artist from running with a thug... i'm like :confused: ....WHATEVER...shyt don't sound right at all, so TUT is right , there is coverups and as Andrea says ALL THESE MOFO'S HAD SOME INVOLEMENT..including King "I'm innocent" Tut.
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 06:45 PM
Just seemed like you wanted to add some extra disrespect.
disrespect? she is what she is. disrespect is calling someone something they aren't
BEsides being black and bald, DMX and Ja are nothing like 2Pac.
:laugh: please go kill yourself.
rap-fan-unlimited
07-20-06, 06:46 PM
It is and will always be bigger than any of us will ever know. Too many players, Too many pieces to put together I aint saying people dont know who did it, but it is what it is.
Who or Whom had the most to gain by Pac dying?
A lot of people.
Mr. Belvedere
07-20-06, 06:47 PM
you cant grow into a G...its somethin that you been since adolesence...if somehow a dude turns into a wild out type of guy...hes either drunk or acting...
That's complete bullsh!t son. Utter.
SCOLLAVELLI.
07-20-06, 06:49 PM
Suge...that whole hitman thing is a given when your that deep in the dope game...these hustla's are takin a page out of the old italian mobster's book to illegal life.
on another tangent :eek: check this out...u wanna talk about hitmen?? lets talk about an organisation that SOLEY KILLED...
It always makes me laugh how Irv Gotti named his cotten candy crew after the biggest muder crew ever assembled...MURDER INC...PLZZZZZZZ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_Inc
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 06:52 PM
I dont think Pac was a G
Ive seen footage of Pac acting like a straight homo...to turn around with Suge's influence and start wilding out...
to quote one of my dudes...you cant grow into a G...its somethin that you been since adolesence...if somehow a dude turns into a wild out type of guy...hes either drunk or acting...Pac was an actor, soft as miracle whip on the inside
and thats why hes dead
Nonsense. You can grow into a g. Doing young helps get your name established and familiarizes you with all the players and garner your validity. If you start late nigguhz don't trust you they think you soft, you gonan have to lay it downa nd lay it down hard, but then if you ain't got no connetcs somebody gonna probably off you. That beings aid 2Pacw asn't g'd because he quit thug life, thats gay.
SCOLLAVELLI.
07-20-06, 06:53 PM
That's complete bullsh!t son. Utter.
nah just trust me on this one...this is something i cant provide a link to...but one of those things u learn from experiences around you...experiences you wont find in Springfield
unless dude goes to War on some Dead Presidents sh1t and comes back a new man...you cant grow into a G when your a grown ass man...
alot of dudes claim they do...but when their backs against the wall you find out the truth
Common "why wait til your 30 to try to be hard"
These guys might have the average hip hop consumer fooled...not me...oh and teh ppl that knew Pac said he changed completely after deathrow...and he wanted to be like Suge so bad...key words...WANTED TO BE LIKE
FaZedONE
07-20-06, 06:55 PM
why does suge always get a pass on his KNOW the LEDGE ass threads, move this sh1t
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 06:57 PM
It is and will always be bigger than any of us will ever know. Too many players, Too many pieces to put together I aint saying people dont know who did it, but it is what it is.
Who or Whom had the most to gain by Pac dying?
A lot of people.
It's not nearly as big as yall think. Yall just want to link everybody.
vocab spill
07-20-06, 06:57 PM
Backward ass counterrevoulutionary. what ever B. Is Pac really who you look up to, then I feel sorry for you, how ignorant is that. I dont look up to anyone in the music industry, you really think they give a f_ _k about you. the only thing they care about is you buyin the record. you the backward one B. I aint hatin on Pac I liked his music, I just dont buy that he was this larger than life thug. do you look up to him because he was a wanna be thug that was making money off of his persona? Is that who you wanna be like.
These are the black men I look up to besides my pops, if you dont know who they are then look them up. you have a better chance at becoming one of them than to be the next wanna be thug rapper.
Clarence Otis, Aylwin lewis, Arthur Harper, Reginald Davis, Stanley Oniel, Richard parson, Clinton Wharton, Kenneth Chenault, Bob Johnson
I looked up to him because he handled his business like a man, he got the devils shook and he had a powerfull positive message
vocab spill
07-20-06, 06:58 PM
I guess you never been to the Tri State...cause i can't count the amount of N.Y, N.J, CONN cats whom diss Pac with no hesitation.
DMX happens to be the most infamous one, if anybody remember that interview in that XXL issue of the making of Makevelli.
I live in jersey and be in nyc, sorry I know cats in bk that got love for pac
Tommy Brown
07-20-06, 07:02 PM
nah just trust me on this one...this is something i cant provide a link to...but one of those things u learn from experiences around you...experiences you wont find in Springfield
unless dude goes to War on some Dead Presidents sh1t and comes back a new man...you cant grow into a G when your a grown ass man...
alot of dudes claim they do...but when their backs against the wall you find out the truth
Common "why wait til your 30 to try to be hard"
These guys might have the average hip hop consumer fooled...not me...oh and teh ppl that knew Pac said he changed completely after deathrow...and he wanted to be like Suge so bad...key words...WANTED TO BE LIKE
You contradict yourself. One minute u say u can't become G over night, yet you suck Suge's cock.From all reports Suge wasn't G'd ass a youth, he wasn't reppin blood until he got on.
Mr. Belvedere
07-20-06, 07:02 PM
nah just trust me on this one...this is something i cant provide a link to...but one of those things u learn from experiences around you...experiences you wont find in Springfield
unless dude goes to War on some Dead Presidents sh1t and comes back a new man...you cant grow into a G when your a grown ass man...
alot of dudes claim they do...but when their backs against the wall you find out the truth
Common "why wait til your 30 to try to be hard"
These guys might have the average hip hop consumer fooled...not me...oh and teh ppl that knew Pac said he changed completely after deathrow...and he wanted to be like Suge so bad...key words...WANTED TO BE LIKE
You're playing yourself B. Right and left.
Who the fuk are you to act like I need a link? I TOLD you I didn't ask you.
You don't even know where the fuk Springfield Gardens is. It's in Queens, Jamaica to be exact the fuking EPICENTER of the 80's crack epidemic.
Telling me I can't find those experiences where I live, tell that to the remnants of the Supreme team or Lorenzo Nichols or even 50 Cent(he got shot many times right around the corner from me).
Fuk atta here.
You're simply extremely wrong.
vocab spill
07-20-06, 07:03 PM
I dont think Pac was a G
Ive seen footage of Pac acting like a straight homo...to turn around with Suge's influence and start wilding out...
to quote one of my dudes...you cant grow into a G...its somethin that you been since adolesence...if somehow a dude turns into a wild out type of guy...hes either drunk or acting...Pac was an actor, soft as miracle whip on the inside
and thats why hes dead
..........
so I guess to be a g you have to sell hundreds of kilos of cocaine
its not enough that people attempted to rob you and you went to pull your gun...
I guess its not g to shoot a cop in the ass
fuuck your definition of a g you "internet detective" nerdy crab ass motherfuucker :rolleyes:
SCOLLAVELLI.
07-20-06, 07:04 PM
You contradict yourself. One minute u say u can't become G over night, yet you suck Suge's cock.From all reports Suge wasn't G'd ass a youth, he wasn't reppin blood until he got on.
ya...look up contradiction before u make a claim like that young man
Suge's been gully...just cause he went to college and had both parents dont mean sh1t...stop watchin hood movies to get a sense of what a G is...those dudes is thugs...
if u wanna talk about reports...lets talk about Suge in college shootin nikkas up, some of the most dangerous ppl ive met were in college...its one thing when your loco, but if you got some brains on the side, there's no stopping you
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