Gained Muscle and Lost Fat (Hell Yeah)

[TRAE_POUND]

The diet i'm on is the Anabolic Diet i'm not going to get into all the details unless asked.1 month ago I weighed 164 with 14 percent body fat to 168 with 11 percent body fat. Check out what I ate (Seems like a heart attack waiting to happen but this sh1t works real talk):

Meal 1:
8 slices of bacon
4 scrambled cheese eggs in butter
2 pieces of ham wrapped around cream cheese

Meal 2:
2 cans of tuna with alot of mayo
Raw Broccoli dipped in ranch

Meal 3:
Protein shake
2 tablespoons of flax oil

Meal 4:
Half pound burger (without bread)
2 slices of cheese
2 slices of bacon

Meal 5:
8 ounce steak
1/2 pound of salmon
2 table spoons of flax oil

Meal 6:
1 chicken thigh
Cheesy spinach

Couple all that food with weight lifting and got damn you got something there.It doesn't seem like alot of weight gain but that's incredible considering im one of those tall (6'2) lanky dudes with a fast metabolism.

[Big H]

Looks alot like Keto.

Good work though; people gotta recognize the power of Keto/High fat diets.

Nothing drops my bodyfat like a solid Keto diet, when followed correctly. Keto is great for dropping fat while sparing hard-earned muscle mass. People have to understand that fat and weight are two completely different things.

[Mister Discotheque]

I haven't changed my diet at all, but I also lost a bit of fat and replaced it with muscle over the past month or so. I looked in the mirror yesterday after working out and I thought I lost weight, but I probably gained a good 5# even though I look a lot more trim...

I'm def. stronger than I was a month ago...I guess muscle really is more dense than fat.

[TRAE_POUND]

Looks alot like Keto.
Good work though; people gotta recognize the power of Keto/High fat diets.
Nothing drops my bodyfat like a solid Keto diet, when followed correctly. Keto is great for dropping fat while sparing hard-earned muscle mass. People have to understand that fat and weight are two completely different things.
Yeah it is really a keto diet but your not using it to cut in the book it says try to eat your bodyweight*18 in calories.

[whoa4]

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[pl2584]

The diet i'm on is the Anabolic Diet i'm not going to get into all the details unless asked.1 month ago I weighed 164 with 14 percent body fat to 168 with 11 percent body fat. Check out what I ate (Seems like a heart attack waiting to happen but this sh1t works real talk):
Meal 1:
8 slices of bacon
4 scrambled cheese eggs in butter
2 pieces of ham wrapped around cream cheese
Meal 2:
2 cans of tuna with alot of mayo
Raw Broccoli dipped in ranch
Meal 3:
Protein shake
2 tablespoons of flax oil
Meal 4:
Half pound burger (without bread)
2 slices of cheese
2 slices of bacon
Meal 5:
8 ounce steak
1/2 pound of salmon
2 table spoons of flax oil
Meal 6:
1 chicken thigh
Cheesy spinach
Couple all that food with weight lifting and got damn you got something there.It doesn't seem like alot of weight gain but that's incredible considering im one of those tall (6'2) lanky dudes with a fast metabolism.


damn nygga u trying to kill people with this diet?

[TRAE_POUND]

damn nygga u trying to kill people with this diet?
Nope, it seems like it would kill your cholesterol but it won't. Due to the bull some have been fed about eating fats they think it's unhealthy. But it comes down to what works for you and this works for me tremendously.

[KnokStaR]

The diet i'm on is the Anabolic Diet i'm not going to get into all the details unless asked.1 month ago I weighed 164 with 14 percent body fat to 168 with 11 percent body fat. Check out what I ate (Seems like a heart attack waiting to happen but this sh1t works real talk):
Meal 1:
8 slices of bacon
4 scrambled cheese eggs in butter
2 pieces of ham wrapped around cream cheese
Meal 2:
2 cans of tuna with alot of mayo
Raw Broccoli dipped in ranch
Meal 3:
Protein shake
2 tablespoons of flax oil
Meal 4:
Half pound burger (without bread)
2 slices of cheese
2 slices of bacon
Meal 5:
8 ounce steak
1/2 pound of salmon
2 table spoons of flax oil
Meal 6:
1 chicken thigh
Cheesy spinach
Couple all that food with weight lifting and got damn you got something there.It doesn't seem like alot of weight gain but that's incredible considering im one of those tall (6'2) lanky dudes with a fast metabolism.

no way you eat that everyday...no way...lol...not at that weight..

[TRAE_POUND]

no way you eat that everyday...no way...lol...not at that weight..
It's not that hard for me believe me. I've always had a big appetite you know skinny dudes always eat alot. But if your not eating carbs your not going to get that full believe me. Try a no carb diet and see if it don't feel like your not starving. Believe me you gonna be hungry as hell.

[Big H]

It's not that hard for me believe me. I've always had a big appetite you know skinny dudes always eat alot. But if your not eating carbs your not going to get that full believe me. Try a no carb diet and see if it don't feel like your not starving. Believe me you gonna be hungry as hell.

Yea, Low Carb diets are great for cutting fat but sometimes you get so lethargic and tired you give up and end up going back to old eating habits. This is why I advise eating higher amounts of fats during a low-carb diet to give yourself energy. Your body prefers Fat as opposed to Carbs as a source of energy. When you trick your body into running off solely Fat, the deficit in calories will result in pure fat loss with minimal muscle loss.

[KnokStaR]

It's not that hard for me believe me. I've always had a big appetite you know skinny dudes always eat alot. But if your not eating carbs your not going to get that full believe me. Try a no carb diet and see if it don't feel like your not starving. Believe me you gonna be hungry as hell.

but see..here's the thing...i naturally dont eat alot of carbs...im 5'9" 172lbs...i CANNOT eat a as much as you listed for each day...when i looked at that...i thought it was ridiculous, lol


I workout 4 days a week...been workin out for 6-7 years....and i go HARD in the weight room...i work 40hours a week on top of that...a pretty physical job....so i figure i burn alot...i cannot see myself eatin that much not even 3 days out of my week....

I average 3 full meals a day..and like 1 bull**** meal lol..so you can say i eat 3 and a 1/2 times a day....and i take 2 protein shakes (muscle milk) each day on my full workout days and 1 shake each day on both my arm days...

I dont know..maybe our bodies are different...but i just cannot see you eatin like that consistantly...seriously if i took that diet...i would be 178-180lbs easy...

[Big H]

but see..here's the thing...i naturally dont eat alot of carbs...im 5'9" 172lbs...i CANNOT eat a as much as you listed for each day...when i looked at that...i thought it was ridiculous, lol
I workout 4 days a week...been workin out for 6-7 years....and i go HARD in the weight room...i work 40hours a week on top of that...a pretty physical job....so i figure i burn alot...i cannot see myself eatin that much not even 3 days out of my week....
I average 3 full meals a day..and like 1 bull**** meal lol..so you can say i eat 3 and a 1/2 times a day....and i take 2 protein shakes (muscle milk) each day on my full workout days and 1 shake each day on both my arm days...
I dont know..maybe our bodies are different...but i just cannot see you eatin like that consistantly...seriously if i took that diet...i would be 178-180lbs easy...

Eating 6 times a day is no hard task. How many calories you consume at each meal is another story. During a deit or bulk, its easy to eat 6 times a day; maintenance is alot harder.

[KnokStaR]

Eating 6 times a day is no hard task. How many calories you consume at each meal is another story. During a deit or bulk, its easy to eat 6 times a day; maintenance is alot harder.

eating 6 times a day aint a hard task...but HIS meals that he listed eating 6 times a day is definately a hard task...at 168lbs?! lol..i cant see it dawg..i really cant.

my 3 full meals a day are big, full meals....this dude got 3 of those, AND like 3 other meals to go along with it...lol

[Verbinh]

have to understand that fat and weight are two completely different things.




Most callow people (about 90 percent of the people i come across) always associate the two as if they go hand in hand.

Some times they are synonymous, but for people who work out, they are two seperate entities.

I'm 230, but fat isn't the first thing people think when they see me. Someone might inquire about me from an acquaintance or whatever and hear, "Yo verb, he about 230 right naw? Damn he fat!"

But it's mostly lean mass.



Thank you everyone here for helping a chigga out though. Good looks. I'm the biggest dude in my crew and when i go out... i feel like a 6 foot, chinky beast (and that is a rare commodity in my community).

[((ReFleX))]

LOL...that diet looks crazy. i'm 160 right now, but if i ate that much i would be 170 by the end of the month. i don't see how that could possibly be good for muscle growth and fat loss too. my goal is to get to 170 but with as little fat gain as possible. that's why i mainly eat chicken & tuna. anybody know the best diets that promote muscle gains and fat loss?...can yall drop some articles? i wanna gain alotta muscle mass, but get my body fat to around 6-7%. is that possible?

[Big H]

i don't see how that could possibly be good for muscle growth and fat loss too. my goal is to get to 170 but with as little fat gain as possible. that's why i mainly eat chicken & tuna. anybody know the best diets that promote muscle gains and fat loss?...can yall drop some articles? i wanna gain alotta muscle mass, but get my body fat to around 6-7%. is that possible?

This diet is very understandable. You have to understand that mixing certain nutrients can yield different results. In his case, he increased Fat intake, Increased Protein intake, but lowered Carb intake very much. When your body only had one source of fuel to turn to (Fat in this case) it will in turn begin to burn ONLY Fat regardless of how much of it you eat. When you stop eating both Fat and Carbs you can expect to go through hell in terms of energy and how you feel.

The truth is that Fat is the better source of energy when compared to Carbs. The order goes like this: 1.) Fat 2.) Carbs 3. Protein. But since most of your diets contain decent amount of Carbs, and since it takes time for our bodies to switch into true fat-burning mode, Carbs become the primary source of energy. This is especially true when you bring simple and processed carbs into the equation.

The REAL problem arises when people consume too much of both nutrients (Fat and Carbs). When your body satisfies its energy needs through one of them (usually Carbs first), the excess Fat consumed goes straight to the Fat tissue (adipose). Think of a Double Whopper with Cheese, Large Fries, and Large Soda; all the WRONG combinations of nutrients.

So Like I've posted over and over again, remember the golden rule for REAL fat loss: Fat+Protein=Good, Carbs+Protein=Good, Fat+Carbs=Bad

Now don't mistake this as a rule for everyday and healthy eating. These are techniques people have to go to when fat loss plateaus or they already have low bodyfat and just want to cut more. For basic fat loss the main concept is still there; reduce calories, but for advanced dieters sometimes these steps are necessary.

And to answer your question, Gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time is a tough task. Our friend here is a good example, he had to turn to alternative methods to attain his goal. Unless your willing to make changes like this, your best bet is to do both in different phases. So first, bulk up and put on the muscle, then go on a cut after you feel you have gained enough weight/muscle/strength. Remember that you NEED an excess amount of calories to gain weight/muscle. Even though my man right here was cutting out all the carbs, he was probably still eating more than enough calories.

[TRAE_POUND]

This diet is very understandable. You have to understand that mixing certain nutrients can yield different results. In his case, he increased Fat intake, Increased Protein intake, but lowered Carb intake very much. When your body only had one source of fuel to turn to (Fat in this case) it will in turn begin to burn ONLY Fat regardless of how much of it you eat. When you stop eating both Fat and Carbs you can expect to go through hell in terms of energy and how you feel.
The truth is that Fat is the better source of energy when compared to Carbs. The order goes like this: 1.) Fat 2.) Carbs 3. Protein. But since most of your diets contain decent amount of Carbs, and since it takes time for our bodies to switch into true fat-burning mode, Carbs become the primary source of energy. This is especially true when you bring simple and processed carbs into the equation.
The REAL problem arises when people consume too much of both nutrients (Fat and Carbs). When your body satisfies its energy needs through one of them (usually Carbs first), the excess Fat consumed goes straight to the Fat tissue (adipose). Think of a Double Whopper with Cheese, Large Fries, and Large Soda; all the WRONG combinations of nutrients.
So Like I've posted over and over again, remember the golden rule for REAL fat loss: Fat+Protein=Good, Carbs+Protein=Good, Fat+Carbs=Bad
Now don't mistake this as a rule for everyday and healthy eating. These are techniques people have to go to when fat loss plateaus or they already have low bodyfat and just want to cut more. For basic fat loss the main concept is still there; reduce calories, but for advanced dieters sometimes these steps are necessary.
And to answer your question, Gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time is a tough task. Our friend here is a good example, he had to turn to alternative methods to attain his goal. Unless your willing to make changes like this, your best bet is to do both in different phases. So first, bulk up and put on the muscle, then go on a cut after you feel you have gained enough weight/muscle/strength. Remember that you NEED an excess amount of calories to gain weight/muscle. Even though my man right here was cutting out all the carbs, he was probably still eating more than enough calories.
Damn, well spoken I could have never explained it that good.

[((ReFleX))]

This diet is very understandable. You have to understand that mixing certain nutrients can yield different results. In his case, he increased Fat intake, Increased Protein intake, but lowered Carb intake very much. When your body only had one source of fuel to turn to (Fat in this case) it will in turn begin to burn ONLY Fat regardless of how much of it you eat. When you stop eating both Fat and Carbs you can expect to go through hell in terms of energy and how you feel.
The truth is that Fat is the better source of energy when compared to Carbs. The order goes like this: 1.) Fat 2.) Carbs 3. Protein. But since most of your diets contain decent amount of Carbs, and since it takes time for our bodies to switch into true fat-burning mode, Carbs become the primary source of energy. This is especially true when you bring simple and processed carbs into the equation.
The REAL problem arises when people consume too much of both nutrients (Fat and Carbs). When your body satisfies its energy needs through one of them (usually Carbs first), the excess Fat consumed goes straight to the Fat tissue (adipose). Think of a Double Whopper with Cheese, Large Fries, and Large Soda; all the WRONG combinations of nutrients.
So Like I've posted over and over again, remember the golden rule for REAL fat loss: Fat+Protein=Good, Carbs+Protein=Good, Fat+Carbs=Bad
Now don't mistake this as a rule for everyday and healthy eating. These are techniques people have to go to when fat loss plateaus or they already have low bodyfat and just want to cut more. For basic fat loss the main concept is still there; reduce calories, but for advanced dieters sometimes these steps are necessary.
And to answer your question, Gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time is a tough task. Our friend here is a good example, he had to turn to alternative methods to attain his goal. Unless your willing to make changes like this, your best bet is to do both in different phases. So first, bulk up and put on the muscle, then go on a cut after you feel you have gained enough weight/muscle/strength. Remember that you NEED an excess amount of calories to gain weight/muscle. Even though my man right here was cutting out all the carbs, he was probably still eating more than enough calories.

yeah man, good post. helped out alot. and can you break down carbohydrates for me?...what foods they're in, and all that. i wanna try out this diet, but i wanna fully understand it first. appreciate the help.

[KnokStaR]

i wanna see this dudes "after" pics...im curious to see how this turned out

I gotta find my old pics...i made a HUGE jump from over a year ago...

[Big H]

yeah man, good post. helped out alot. and can you break down carbohydrates for me?...what foods they're in, and all that. i wanna try out this diet, but i wanna fully understand it first. appreciate the help.

Well for Carbs, yo can break them into three different basic categories. Simple, Complex, Fibrous.

Simple carbs are basically Sugars; carbs that are absorbed and processed rapidly and the fastest. These are typically the ones you MUST avoid because they are in most Sodas, Sweets, Candies, Deserts, etc. You don't need them unless you need a rapid and quick burst of carbs; for instance after a workout you add 30-40 grams of Dextrose to a protein shake to replenish Glycogen in the muscle faster. Other than that, you don't NEED them. Fructose, which is the sugar found in fruits is also a simple sugar. Fruits are great for healthy eating and maintenance, but for dieting they should be avoided for the most part. Berries and Bananas are feasible though.

Complex carbs are good carbs. They are slower to process and are generally healthier for you. Complex carbs are in foods like 100% Whole Grain foods, Brown Rice, Potatoes, Oats, etc. Complex carbs take longer to digest and process in your body so they are great for breakfast and lunch time when you need energy from carbs. So remember the difference here, Simple carbs are fast and rapid, Complex carbs are slower and healthier.

Fibrous carbs are probably the healthiest type of carbs you can eat on a diet. These are carbs that are essentially Fiber. These are found in many foods along with complex carbs, but if you want it straight, the best option is vegetables. Veggies are nothing but water and Fibrous carbs. They have the smallest caloric value and give you a full feeling which will help keep cravings for food and sugar down. They are also great for digestion and you try to get at least 40 grams a day. So just remember to include veggies with every meal.

[((ReFleX))]

Well for Carbs, yo can break them into three different basic categories. Simple, Complex, Fibrous.

Simple carbs are basically Sugars; carbs that are absorbed and processed rapidly and the fastest. These are typically the ones you MUST avoid because they are in most Sodas, Sweets, Candies, Deserts, etc. You don't need them unless you need a rapid and quick burst of carbs; for instance after a workout you add 30-40 grams of Dextrose to a protein shake to replenish Glycogen in the muscle faster. Other than that, you don't NEED them. Fructose, which is the sugar found in fruits is also a simple sugar. Fruits are great for healthy eating and maintenance, but for dieting they should be avoided for the most part. Berries and Bananas are feasible though.

Complex carbs are good carbs. They are slower to process and are generally healthier for you. Complex carbs are in foods like 100% Whole Grain foods, Brown Rice, Potatoes, Oats, etc. Complex carbs take longer to digest and process in your body so they are great for breakfast and lunch time when you need energy from carbs. So remember the difference here, Simple carbs are fast and rapid, Complex carbs are slower and healthier.

Fibrous carbs are probably the healthiest type of carbs you can eat on a diet. These are carbs that are essentially Fiber. These are found in many foods along with complex carbs, but if you want it straight, the best option is vegetables. Veggies are nothing but water and Fibrous carbs. They have the smallest caloric value and give you a full feeling which will help keep cravings for food and sugar down. They are also great for digestion and you try to get at least 40 grams a day. So just remember to include veggies with every meal.
so since this is a high fat low carb diet, do i avoid all carbs except for fibrous carbs?...or could i eat complex carbs too?...or just avoid carbs all together?

[Big H]

so since this is a high fat low carb diet, do i avoid all carbs except for fibrous carbs?...or could i eat complex carbs too?...or just avoid carbs all together?

Well this is entirely up to you. You can get by with eating Complex carbs and you will most certainly need Fibrous carbs. Since you will be trying this diet, it may be best if you slowly lower your carb intake and not just drop them all at once.

You will want to STOP consuming Simple carbs as soon as possible. You don't need them and will have to eliminate them if you want to keep fat gain to a minimum. Even during Carb-ups, you'll want to avoid simple carbs and focus on eating Complex carbs.

If you are going to eat carbs on this diet, keep it at around 50-100 grams a day. Once you feel adjusted to the lower carb count, you can try to lower the amount even more. You don't need to eliminate ALL carbs because to be honest its nearly impossible. Even dieters on Keto attempt to limit carbs to about 30-50 grams a day. The key is finding out when your body actually kicks into Ketosis. Some people will be able to eat more carbs and still be in Ketosis, but others won't be able to.

Also, feel free to add in a cheat day in which you eat whatever you want. Since your essentially bulking; cheating won't really hurt. I typically reserve Sunday for this day whether I'm cutting or bulking. Just a chance to go crazy and eat anything you want in any combination you want.

[((ReFleX))]

Well this is entirely up to you. You can get by with eating Complex carbs and you will most certainly need Fibrous carbs. Since you will be trying this diet, it may be best if you slowly lower your carb intake and not just drop them all at once.

You will want to STOP consuming Simple carbs as soon as possible. You don't need them and will have to eliminate them if you want to keep fat gain to a minimum. Even during Carb-ups, you'll want to avoid simple carbs and focus on eating Complex carbs.

If you are going to eat carbs on this diet, keep it at around 50-100 grams a day. Once you feel adjusted to the lower carb count, you can try to lower the amount even more. You don't need to eliminate ALL carbs because to be honest its nearly impossible. Even dieters on Keto attempt to limit carbs to about 30-50 grams a day. The key is finding out when your body actually kicks into Ketosis. Some people will be able to eat more carbs and still be in Ketosis, but others won't be able to.

Also, feel free to add in a cheat day in which you eat whatever you want. Since your essentially bulking; cheating won't really hurt. I typically reserve Sunday for this day whether I'm cutting or bulking. Just a chance to go crazy and eat anything you want in any combination you want.

and this is a bulk up diet, but do you get more cut?...cause it seems like you would if your lowering your fat%. what can i expect from my body after this diet...to be bulkier and meatier...or bulkier but still have a lean cut look?

[TRAE_POUND]

and this is a bulk up diet, but do you get more cut?...cause it seems like you would if your lowering your fat%. what can i expect from my body after this diet...to be bulkier and meatier...or bulkier but still have a lean cut look?
Sorry to cut in. But to me the diet is the best of both worlds. Bulking like this is slower but you keep fat gain to a minimum.So I would say you will be bulkier and still be cut. But if your bulking I would say abandon the thoughts of having an 8 pack and sh!t. From my experience I stayed lean and gained a little muscle but everyone is different. But for a majority of people when bulking you can expect to gain a little fat but when you start cutting you'll look so much better. You can lower the calories and make this a very effective (the best to me) cutting diet and stay within 30g of carbs. Simply because you switch to burning pure fat instead of fat and muscle like you do with a traditional cutting diet.

[Big H]

and this is a bulk up diet, but do you get more cut?...cause it seems like you would if your lowering your fat%. what can i expect from my body after this diet...to be bulkier and meatier...or bulkier but still have a lean cut look?

Well the goal here is to keep fat gain during the bulk to a minimum. But the reality is that not every ounce of that weight you gain will be muscle. You will gain some fat, but not as much as a traditional bulking diet like my man just pointed out. It is slower, but the results are long lasting.

[((ReFleX))]

Sorry to cut in. But to me the diet is the best of both worlds. Bulking like this is slower but you keep fat gain to a minimum.So I would say you will be bulkier and still be cut. But if your bulking I would say abandon the thoughts of having an 8 pack and sh!t. From my experience I stayed lean and gained a little muscle but everyone is different. But for a majority of people when bulking you can expect to gain a little fat but when you start cutting you'll look so much better. You can lower the calories and make this a very effective (the best to me) cutting diet and stay within 30g of carbs. Simply because you switch to burning pure fat instead of fat and muscle like you do with a traditional cutting diet.


Well the goal here is to keep fat gain during the bulk to a minimum. But the reality is that not every ounce of that weight you gain will be muscle. You will gain some fat, but not as much as a traditional bulking diet like my man just pointed out. It is slower, but the results are long lasting.

aight, good looks yall. i'ma try this $hit out real soon...prolly start next month. appreciate the help. peace