View Full Version : "Flax Seed Oil Actually Increases Prostate Cancer" (link)
TheThiefsTheme
05-04-06, 03:30 AM
this is for all you flax seed oil whores out there taking 12 pills a day.
these are two really interesting articles. basically they explain how flax seed oil can increase prostate cancer, while fish oil decreases it, however ground flax seed decreases it.
http://www.mercola.com/2004/jul/21/flax_seed_oil.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/21/flaxseed.htm
LOL.
Name one supplement that has NOT been linked to some disease. And I highly doubt this was an actual double-blind study.
Keep in mind that these studies don't take ALL factors into account. One big one is that they do not mention the age or overall level of health of these "men" they used. We as Americans suffer from these diseases at a higher rate when compared on a global scale. Our lifestyles and diets play a huge role in these cases.
This is like the study where they linked Diet soda to increases in Obesity.... well no f*ckin sh*t! topping off a large pizza and buffalo wings with Diet soda isn't going to help anyone. The people they "studied" for this sh*t were still eating terrible diets and hardly exercising.
And I must say that this is the FIRST time I have ever seen Flax Seed linked to a disease. That plus the fact that out of 47,000 men ONLY 3,000 of them "struggled" with Prostate Cancer; thats called growing old and losing function in that area. Just cuz you struggle to take a piss when your older doesn't suggest that you got an enlarged Prostate from Flax Seed Oil.
Shaolin Temple
05-04-06, 04:10 PM
Not a legit source. Do you believe everything you read? Paris Hilton has a book, would you take that seriously?
Here is an example of one (http://www.ehponline.org/members/2002/suppl-1/75-87woo/EHP110s1p75PDF.PDF)
It speaks on the toxins in water and it can affect our health
If it's a study - I want to at least read the abstract and results. Medical Journals and stuff like that is great. There are plenty of free and legit information on the web.
TheThiefsTheme
05-05-06, 01:35 AM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22flax+seed%22%2C+prostate+cancer&btnG=Google+Search
Shaolin Temple
05-05-06, 07:15 AM
From the google search
"Mice fed plenty of flaxseed seem to be protected against the worst forms of prostate cancer, which suggests flaxseed contains some protective components. Flaxseed is a rich source of omega-3 fatty acids, fiber and compounds known as lignans, all of which may play a role in protecting against cancer and perhaps also heart disease."
http://www.raysahelian.com/flaxseed.html
Shaolin Temple
05-05-06, 10:58 AM
But seriously, when you read some claims like link something to a disease or something serious of that sort, understand that their can be many causes.
For instance the high school football player who diet and the first article I read stated it most probably was caused for creatine he took regularly. but then I searched his cause of death which was posted a mere week later, and that stated it was due to dehydration, and the use of creatine might have aided that on top of the excessive heat he practiced in. Creatine monohydrate supplementation requires a lot of water. And based on the autopsy, he didn't even drink that much and pushed himself too much.
Research can do a lot of things. Just find good sources that back up what they are saying.
TheThiefsTheme
05-05-06, 03:22 PM
From the google search
"Mice fed plenty of flaxseed seem to be protected against the worst forms of prostate cancer, which suggests flaxseed contains some protective components. Flaxseed is a rich source of omega-3 fatty acids, fiber and compounds known as lignans, all of which may play a role in protecting against cancer and perhaps also heart disease."
http://www.raysahelian.com/flaxseed.html
from that same website
"Flax seed oil side effects
Unless taken in large amounts, flax seed oil has few side effects. It's best to use different oils as opposed to one type of oil."
and my original post states "this is for all you flax seed oil whores out there taking 12 pills a day."
serving size is ONE 1000mg pill and we got dudes on here taking 12-16 a day. fukk is that sh1t? that's the reason i posted this, for all you damn pill poppers. sh1t i'm about to go buy a 360-pack today, but you wont see me take that many pills in one day.
khalid a.k.a Genocide
05-05-06, 05:17 PM
from that same website
"Flax seed oil side effects
Unless taken in large amounts, flax seed oil has few side effects. It's best to use different oils as opposed to one type of oil."
and my original post states "this is for all you flax seed oil whores out there taking 12 pills a day."
serving size is ONE 1000mg pill and we got dudes on here taking 12-16 a day. fukk is that sh1t? that's the reason i posted this, for all you damn pill poppers. sh1t i'm about to go buy a 360-pack today, but you wont see me take that many pills in one day.
Most flax seed oil products(1000mgs, 1200mgs) the serving size for health reasons is 1 capsule 1-3 a day. Most people that lift weights take 1 capsule three times a day. I don't know where you got the 12-16 pills a day from. And theres nothing wrong with taking multivitamins, multiminerals, fish oil, flax seed oil, and other supplements daily, as long as is withing the recommended dosage(sp?).
Your post comes off as someone who knows very little about the subject of supplementation.
Most flax seed oil products(1000mgs, 1200mgs) the serving size for health reasons is 1 capsule 1-3 a day. Most people that lift weights take 1 capsule three times a day. I don't know where you got the 12-16 pills a day from. And theres nothing wrong with taking multivitamins, multiminerals, fish oil, flax seed oil, and other supplements daily, as long as is withing the recommended dosage(sp?).
Your post comes off as someone who knows very little about the subject of supplementation.
He must have been talking to me.
Listen, Caps do not provide sufficient flax seed oil, hence the reason why I take 12 caps of it a day if I'm taking the straight oil. 12 caps of Flax Oil is equal to roughly 1-1.5 Tablespoons of actual Oil.
Plus the whole argument makes no sense. Taking the oil lends a hand to Prostate cancer but using the actual seeds don't??? I smell bullsh*t.
Shaolin Temple
05-06-06, 07:35 AM
Plus the whole argument makes no sense. Taking the oil lends a hand to Prostate cancer but using the actual seeds don't??? I smell bullsh*t.
That's why I told him to find a reliable source in which the study was done in detail. Not just an article. Cause I just quoted something that is misleading in one of the links.
I searched in medical journals and found nothing. And I am pretty good finding stuff. Articles off of google and medical journal studies (many of which can be found on the net) are two completely different things. One is far more reliable.
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