Nelly

[Warren]

How did nelly go from his physique in Hot in Herre to Errtime? in what seems like a few months!

[Insane Sony]

he has a personal chef
a personal trainer
the best equipment
and probably sum juice
with all that how can u lose?

[whoa4]

he still looked the same to me, a little bigger maybe. He had to put on weight for The Longest Yard, and was boasting at getting around 180-185. I would LOVE to get past it and get to 215 myself...

[KnokStaR]

he was 178 at the highest for the longest yard....thats what he said on 106...

he looks to be about 180 right now...maybe even 175...he's only 5'9"...im 5'9" and weigh about 170-172 and we look about the same size....

...by the way people...i have no idea why people think it takes years to get big like that...it really only takes maybe 3-4 months of straight CONSISTANCY and a high protein diet to blow up like he did.....timbaland did what he did in 6 months....alot of people dont move their resistances and weights up fast enough either...move ya bench up atleast 10 pounds every few weeks...and everything else needs to move up every few weeks...pushin heavy weight and keepin up on ya protein intake is the only way you're gonna get those muscles pumpin quick...

I went from 162 to 172 in about 6 months..im right there with nelly cept he probably got me on the arms just a tad...my shoulder and chest game is very truthful though lol

[whoa4]

he was 178 at the highest for the longest yard....thats what he said on 106...

he looks to be about 180 right now...maybe even 175...he's only 5'9"...im 5'9" and weigh about 170-172 and we look about the same size....

...by the way people...i have no idea why people think it takes years to get big like that...it really only takes maybe 3-4 months of straight CONSISTANCY and a high protein diet to blow up like he did.....timbaland did what he did in 6 months....alot of people dont move their resistances and weights up fast enough either...move ya bench up atleast 10 pounds every few weeks...and everything else needs to move up every few weeks...pushin heavy weight and keepin up on ya protein intake is the only way you're gonna get those muscles pumpin quick...

I went from 162 to 172 in about 6 months..im right there with nelly cept he probably got me on the arms just a tad...my shoulder and chest game is very truthful though lol


I thought your arms would be bigger. My tricep game used to be on point, but it slipped a bit since coming to Miami. I'm about to get back on the grind. I still do 225 about 10-12 times, but I haven't been taking any protein in a few months. I'm getting all of my sh*t today and I'm getting back on he grind. I was shrugging 365 plus at one point.

But I agree, i'm gonna get back/past what I want by working hard. I usually take it easy when I'm not on any protein/recovery/creatine or anything like that. I just lift and chill. But I'm getting my sh*t soon. He had the best of the best probably training him and it don't take that long with hard work. But your body has to get used to it's new weight and everything

[KnokStaR]

I thought your arms would be bigger. My tricep game used to be on point, but it slipped a bit since coming to Miami. I'm about to get back on the grind. I still do 225 about 10-12 times, but I haven't been taking any protein in a few months. I'm getting all of my sh*t today and I'm getting back on he grind. I was shrugging 365 plus at one point.

But I agree, i'm gonna get back/past what I want by working hard. I usually take it easy when I'm not on any protein/recovery/creatine or anything like that. I just lift and chill. But I'm getting my sh*t soon. He had the best of the best probably training him and it don't take that long with hard work. But your body has to get used to it's new weight and everything

no doubt...u on the right track

[IJ_Rizzo]

...by the way people...i have no idea why people think it takes years to get big like that...it really only takes maybe 3-4 months of straight CONSISTANCY and a high protein diet to blow up like he did.....timbaland did what he did in 6 months....


straight up, timbaland has a personal chef, an incredible trainer, endless money and no work to get in the way of a training schedule... and let there be NO DOUBT that he went winstrol crazy.

you don't lose 125 pounds total weight while going from 40+% bodyfat to 11~% bodyfat at the same time that you put on a solid 20-30 pounds of muscle and do it within 6 months without steroids. Im not even judging him. I dont care about juicing at all. But it is not humanly possible to do what Tim did without gear. Still... good for him.

[KnokStaR]

straight up, timbaland has a personal chef, an incredible trainer, endless money and no work to get in the way of a training schedule... and let there be NO DOUBT that he went winstrol crazy.

you don't lose 125 pounds total weight while going from 40+% bodyfat to 11~% bodyfat at the same time that you put on a solid 20-30 pounds of muscle and do it within 6 months without steroids. Im not even judging him. I dont care about juicing at all. But it is not humanly possible to do what Tim did without gear. Still... good for him.

well...its hard to believe..true...but his trainer said no roids..pure whey protein and INTENSE cardio...and ofcourse he was on a crazy diet....take it for what its worth i guess...either timbaland's work ethic is beastly or he's a liar, lol

btw...he doesnt have a 11% bodyfat rate...he's not THAT cut yet

[IJ_Rizzo]

well hes not over 15%. for sure.

of course his trainer is going to say no steroids... they're illegal... but with all that cardio, it is impossible to put on the 20-30 extra pounds of muscle that hes got on him now. he would need an anti-catabolic of the strongest proportions and one that would allow him to even put on significant mass while cutting. winny is a guarantee. he probably cycled other stuff too. i dont blame him. if you research it and do it correctly, i dont see the harm. especially if you're 330 pounds. why torture yourself? just fix yourself up and get right and get off em.

[whoa4]

It's possible without roids. I don't know why people always assume roids is always involved when someone makes a muscle gain. I don't believe it was ONLY 6 months, but I think it was possible. In the course of a year I gained 40 lbs and lost about 10, mainly muscle. I worked hard for a good 6 months and the next 6 I wasn't able to work as hard and only went to the gym about 3 times a week at the most. I've been at the same weight for about a year, gaining and dropping on and off.

It's possible, it just takes dedication. If dude did cardio about 6 days a week, weight training/polymetric 5 times a week, ate right ALL THE TIME, rested as much as needed, and continued to do something that will burn fat even while you not working out, then it can be possible. And muscle burns more fat than cardio, and if he was killing the extreme-cardio WHILE gaining muscle, then he could've done it.

[IJ_Rizzo]

It's possible without roids. I don't know why people always assume roids is always involved when someone makes a muscle gain. I don't believe it was ONLY 6 months, but I think it was possible. In the course of a year I gained 40 lbs and lost about 10, mainly muscle. I worked hard for a good 6 months and the next 6 I wasn't able to work as hard and only went to the gym about 3 times a week at the most. I've been at the same weight for about a year, gaining and dropping on and off.

It's possible, it just takes dedication. If dude did cardio about 6 days a week, weight training/polymetric 5 times a week, ate right ALL THE TIME, rested as much as needed, and continued to do something that will burn fat even while you not working out, then it can be possible. And muscle burns more fat than cardio, and if he was killing the extreme-cardio WHILE gaining muscle, then he could've done it.

Let's say he did it naturally.... they said he weighs 125 pounds less than he did when he started. He easily put on 25 pounds of muscle, so that means he lost roughly 150 pounds of fat and gained 25 pounds of muscle within 6 months.

Gaining weight and losing weight all boils down to your diet and the number of calories consumed vs burned and what type of calories they are.

That means he burned off 525,000 calories aside from what he needed to get through each day without managing to lose any muscle and then ate 87500 calories extra, on top of what he needed to get through each day without putting on any fat.... In 6 months... at the same time. Bro, it's impossible, unless you add drugs to the mix.

If that trainer transformed Tim that way in 6-8 months without one single illegal supplement/drug, then he should write a book, go on oprah, charged all his clients 2000/hr and get to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom for a week.

[whoa4]

Let's say he did it naturally.... they said he weighs 125 pounds less than he did when he started. He easily put on 25 pounds of muscle, so that means he lost roughly 150 pounds of fat and gained 25 pounds of muscle within 6 months.

Gaining weight and losing weight all boils down to your diet and the number of calories consumed vs burned and what type of calories they are.

That means he burned off 525,000 calories aside from what he needed to get through each day without managing to lose any muscle and then ate 87500 calories extra, on top of what he needed to get through each day without putting on any fat.... In 6 months... at the same time. Bro, it's impossible, unless you add drugs to the mix.

If that trainer transformed Tim that way in 6-8 months without one single illegal supplement/drug, then he should write a book, go on oprah, charged all his clients 2000/hr and get to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom for a week.


There are ways man. Extreme ways, but ways without using "illegal" substances.

And plus, the trainer could've been talking about how he got in shape in about 6-8 months (which can easily be done with the resources and dedicating all of your time to do it) and talked about how he has lost that much weight in a period of time. If Timbo wasn't lazy, was was seriously on his grind, he could've done it and he has the money to get the right people around him for it.

I mean, i can easily gain 25-30 lbs of muscle if I had the time and resources dedicated to doing that, no substances. There are plenty of ways to lose weight with not just doing cardio. Karl Malone did his mountain bike cardio in his personal gym with about a 100 degree temperature. All Tim had to do was get dedicated. He produces music, that job can be done any time of the day anywhere (and I know). It's a job that doesn't even require you to work some times, if you made 100 beats at one period and distribute them every once in awhile, at about 5-10 g a beat, thats ten cd's worth of music. He probably had all the time in the world to work out, especially if you love it.

[whoa4]

If that trainer transformed Tim that way in 6-8 months without one single illegal supplement/drug, then he should write a book, go on oprah, charged all his clients 2000/hr and get to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom for a week.


There was something about Big Pun losing 100lbs in about a year before he died. The reason why I believe this is because it's not the first time I've heard something about it.

And those celeb trainers usually do charge around that much

[IJ_Rizzo]

There was something about Big Pun losing 100lbs in about a year before he died. The reason why I believe this is because it's not the first time I've heard something about it.

And those celeb trainers usually do charge around that much

Well Big Pun weighed over 700 pounds. He could eat a big mac for breakfast, lunch and dinner every single day and lose 100 pounds in a year.

His maintenance calories were easily over 10,000 a day because there was so much of him.

The unique thing about what Tim did is the muscle mass gained. Its borderline impossible to gain muscle mass while burning off fat. It still happens from time to time b/c of genetics or if you're new to lifting, but even still, at most you'll gain a few pounds of muscle while cutting calories to burn fat. In order to burn fat, you need to take in less calories than your body needs to maintain itself (and keep your protein high or else your body will make up the calorie deficit by eating your muscles instead of your fat) and in order to gain muscle you need to take in more calories than your body needs, while of course, training your ass off.

Do you understand that the calorie deficit he had to be on in order to burn that much fat makes it impossible for him to gain as much muscle as he did in that time period naturally?

I dont even understand why anyone would fault him for it. He still had to bust his fvcking ass. Steroids arent magic.

[whoa4]

Well Big Pun weighed over 700 pounds. He could eat a big mac for breakfast, lunch and dinner every single day and lose 100 pounds in a year.

His maintenance calories were easily over 10,000 a day because there was so much of him.

The unique thing about what Tim did is the muscle mass gained. Its borderline impossible to gain muscle mass while burning off fat. It still happens from time to time b/c of genetics or if you're new to lifting, but even still, at most you'll gain a few pounds of muscle while cutting calories to burn fat. In order to burn fat, you need to take in less calories than your body needs to maintain itself (and keep your protein high or else your body will make up the calorie deficit by eating your muscles instead of your fat) and in order to gain muscle you need to take in more calories than your body needs, while of course, training your ass off.

Do you understand that the calorie deficit he had to be on in order to burn that much fat makes it impossible for him to gain as much muscle as he did in that time period naturally?

I dont even understand why anyone would fault him for it. He still had to bust his fvcking ass. Steroids arent magic.


I honestly don't see why is that "virtually impossible". Greg Jones, my favorite FSU running back (physically) gained more mass AND strength while dropping his body fat and increasing his overall 40 speed in just the summer before he went to the Jaguars. Dude got alot stronger (benching 405+) and lost weight in the process.

He wasn't new to litfing and who says Timbo don't have the genetics or a high metablism rate? I know 300lb dudes now that could exercise and lose a hundred pounds if they were dedicated for almost a year. In fact, my homeboy dropped from 275+ to 220 in less than a year while gaining strength in the process (he couldn't bench over 205, now he's at like 275).

To burn fat, you need to take in/burn more FAT calories. Thats why I don't really believe in the low carb bullshyt because carbs can be used as energy and won't turn into fat as long as you burn them off before hand. I don't drink sodas because of the sugars and etc., but most bodybuilders have high protein then high carb diets thats low in fat (mainly saturated fat because some fats are good for your body). Some bodybuilders even have their carb intake higher than their protein intake (I've seen it before). All timbo had to do was have a high protein (which also burns fat), medium carb (for energy), and low fat/colesterol diet with a high water intake (which also helpe you burn fat), medium milk intake (studies have shown that skim milk helps you burn fat), and some dedication.


Thats why I gained most of my muscle and not fat. I had a high protein diet (not just shakes, regular food) and a VERY low fat intake (I rarely ate too many foods with alot of Sat. Fats. I rarely ate any foods that had a higher fat intake than protein intake) and some of those meals had alot of calories. My step-father played in the NFL, and he used to put me on some unknown sh*t a while back. He even said that I looked as if I should GAIN some more fat despite me not even being really veiny.

It's not impossible to burn fat and gain muscle at the same time. Shaolin even said that once...