I seem to do better/remain firmer/look leaner when I am not watching my diet

[G.O.D.]

real talk

When i'm eating salad with tuna and chicken breast in it day in, and day out...my muscles feel depleted and small...but i can eat something much more unhealthy, but maybe only eat 2 times that day...and the next day...i feel tighter/leaner...how can this be?

It makes me want to stop focusing so much on what i eat, as opposed to how much i eat.

[khalid a.k.a Genocide]

real talk

When i'm eating salad with tuna and chicken breast in it day in, and day out...my muscles feel depleted and small...but i can eat something much more unhealthy, but maybe only eat 2 times that day...and the next day...i feel tighter/leaner...how can this be?

It makes me want to stop focusing so much on what i eat, as opposed to how much i eat.

the way your muscle feel and the way it looks can be two different things. So when you say that your muscles feel depleted and small, how do your muscles look??

I really don't think it has anything to do with your diet, it might be more of psychological thing. Furthermore, I think you would be making a big mistake not watching your diet since you were previously an overweight guy. my advice to you would be, just keep hitting the gym and keep a solid diet(cheat at most once a week).

lift hard and eat hard(structured diet)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[G.O.D.]

the way your muscle feel and the way it looks can be two different things. So when you say that your muscles feel depleted and small, how do your muscles look??

I really don't think it has anything to do with your diet, it might be more of psychological thing. Furthermore, I think you would be making a big mistake not watching your diet since you were previously an overweight guy. my advice to you would be, just keep hitting the gym and keep a solid diet(cheat at most once a week).

lift hard and eat hard(structured diet)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i mean look and feel...sometimes i wonder if eating healthy is counterproductive to boosting your metabolism...i know it is completely opposite to what science says...but i swear, it's something i noticed. I am going to keep experimenting with different stuff...because i've been on a plateau for a long time now.

[IJ_Rizzo]

Order some superdrol at a ridiculously low price since its being discontinued. Research for the next 2 months. Buy everything you need for a cycle gradually over those 2 months. Eat the same healthy way you do now, only repeat 2 of your medium to larger size meals each day. Make sure you're getting 250-300g of protein per day. Buy tons of skim milk. Gain 20 pounds in 3-4 weeks while barely increasing your bodyfat. Start proper PCT, lose 2-3 pounds tops over the following 3-4 weeks. Get some melting point by designer supplements while running a keto diet with a weekly carb-up for 6 weeks. Gradually come off the keto diet and resume your healthy eating habits.

And then enjoy the body you and every former fatty has dreamed about since they were 15 years old, alone, depressed and 40% body fat while the temperature begins reaching the 80s.

You've done the hard part. I want to see any person alive talk about cutting corners by taking something like superdrol to someone who just dropped 100 pounds of fat. Then I want you to laugh at them. If you took care of yourself from day one, you wouldn't need it. But hey, sometimes you need a little equalizer.

Still unsure? Just look at Timbaland.

[G.O.D.]

Order some superdrol at a ridiculously low price since its being discontinued. Research for the next 2 months. Buy everything you need for a cycle gradually over those 2 months. Eat the same healthy way you do now, only repeat 2 of your medium to larger size meals each day. Make sure you're getting 250-300g of protein per day. Buy tons of skim milk. Gain 20 pounds in 3-4 weeks while barely increasing your bodyfat. Start proper PCT, lose 2-3 pounds tops over the following 3-4 weeks. Get some melting point by designer supplements while running a keto diet with a weekly carb-up for 6 weeks. Gradually come off the keto diet and resume your healthy eating habits.

And then enjoy the body you and every former fatty has dreamed about since they were 15 years old, alone, depressed and 40% body fat while the temperature begins reaching the 80s.

You've done the hard part. I want to see any person alive talk about cutting corners by taking something like superdrol to someone who just dropped 100 pounds of fat. Then I want you to laugh at them. If you took care of yourself from day one, you wouldn't need it. But hey, sometimes you need a little equalizer.

Still unsure? Just look at Timbaland.

i take it it's a steroid? What are the side effects?

[IJ_Rizzo]

i take it it's a steroid? What are the side effects?

Typical stuff. If you get real anal and take every supp listed, you will more than likely just get smaller nuts & lower sex drive toward your last week of SD. post cycle therapy plumps your nuts back up (indicating test production is back on track) and thus brings your sex drive back to normal too.

I'm not trying to give you a crash course, so you can do this next week, but I'd consider it come March or so if you are interested enough to use it. You should have a pretty good understanding of how everything works and why you need to do everything you need to do by that time. I only mentioned it because you can get a bottle of 90 caps for less than $40 when a 60 cap bottle used to cost almost double that, and they will be long gone by the time you are educated enough to use it safely.

Here... this is from bodybuilding.com's forums....

What is Superdrol?
Superdrol (SD) is marketed as a 'pro-hormone' (PH) in the post-ban era of pro-hormones. Following the ban of most pro-hormonal substances in the States, including the likes of 1-test, 1-AD, 4-AD, M1T, etc, Designer Supplements designed this 'pro-hormone' based on the steroid Masteron, with an additional methyl group attached to the 17th carbon position. It is described as a cross between anavar and masteron, with the virtual inability for aromatisation to estrogen. It is highly anabolic (400-800% more so than methyl-test) and a lot less androgenic (~20% of methyl-test). Superdrol has hence been given the name Methasteron.

It should also be noted that due to the steroidal nature of SD, those under the age of 21 should not consider the use of SD, which could be detrimental in a number of ways.

Cycling Superdrol
SD is sold in 10mg capsules. For those who have not used SD before, it may be a good idea to start off on 10mg as a single dose each day (ed) for at least the first few days/week. Those who have used SD before, or those who are in the range of 200lbs+ or have more experience with other pro-hormones/AAS should most likely want to start with 20mg ed. Dosages should be split where possible, 10mg in the morning, 10mg 12hrs later. Most users report that when running for longer than 3 weeks, the gains seem to cease in the 4th week. This has led to many people thinking that 3 week cycles of SD are the best option in terms of gains and sides and this also is beneficial due to the harsh nature of SD on lipid values (see Side Effects of Superdrol). A good cycle is 20mg ed for 3 weeks, with a 2-3 week Post Cycle Therapy. Others have found success employing a 2 week on, 1 week off using a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM; e.g. Nolvadex) or Aromatase Inhibitor (AI; e.g. Rebound XT) during the week off.

PCT will involve either Nolvadex (Tamoxifen, the prescription only medicine) or Rebound XT or other 1,4,6-androstatriene-3,17-dione (ATD - the active component of Rebound XT) containing products, although Rebound XT has been used by most. Less potent AI's such as 6-oxo are not really going to be sufficient and are not recommended. See an example cycle (below) for dosages.

Side effects of Superdrol
As with all AAS, SD is not side effect free. However, when comparing to harsher compounds such as M1T, I would have to say SD fairs well in the sides department. Due to virtually zero aromatisation to estrogen, water retention in theory will be low (and in practise is low), and bloating should not occur such as one would see with an AAS oral like dianabol. As SD is said to have diuretic properties, you may well experience a loss of water weight during the initial period of use. Also, I have yet to see a case of gynecomastia (gyno - development of breast tissue in males) induced by SD usage. I would not rule this out, and always recommend to anyone who is doing a steroidal cycle of some sort to have Nolvadex on hand in case gyno occurs. SD could perhaps induce gyno through the progesterone route however this is mere speculation, and it certainly is not worth adding an anti-estrogen on cycle. Due to its low androgenic activity, one would expect androgenic sides to be low, and indeed, most users find little in the way of increased bodily hair, acne, hair loss (male pattern baldness - MPB), etc, however as SD does have some androgenic activity, and if you are genetically prone to MPB you may well increase this process while on SD.
The main side effects that seem to occur in many SD users are:

• Cramping/painful "pumps" (specifically lower back)
• Lethargy - in extreme cases people have reported feeling like they had a hangover for the duration of the cycle.
• Painful shin-splints, often making cardio very difficult
• Substantial increases in LDL cholesterol levels and reduction of HDL levels
• SD is methylated so one must remember liver stress is a possibility
• Possible loss in libido near end of cycle
Because of these sides (some being more serious than others) there are certain supplements that in my opinion, one should always employ whilst on a cycle of SD (see Necessary Supplements on Superdrol below).

Necessary Supplements on Superdrol
SD is methylated as mentioned, and being a 17?-alkylated compound, stress will be inevitably put on the liver. The most common method employed by users of methylated steroids would be supplementing with Milk Thistle, available from health stores, supplement stores and some bulk powder stores. The Milk Thistle that you purchase needs to be standardised to at least 80% silymarin (the active compound), and users should run 1000mg ed of milk thistle (giving 800mg silymarin). Other liver protection aids, such as N-Acetyl Carnitine (NAC), etc, may also be employed if the user so desires.
If cramping occurs, as it may likely do, 5g ed of Taurine as well as potassium (add bananas into diet) will definitely help. If you have not used Taurine before, start off on 3g ed (take it pre-workout if possible, about 30mins prior to exercise) and build up to 5g. Taurine is available at very low prices from online bulk powder suppliers.

The major issue with SD usage as discussed is the 'trashing' of lipid levels. Thus I would never recommend a cycle of SD without the user taking the precaution of supplementing with cholesterol regulating products. One very good product, which is comparable to prescription statins and other products for cholesterol problems, is Red Yeast Rice (RYR or cholestin). A minimum of 1200mg of RYR ed for the duration of the cycle including PCT should help to maintain healthy levels of LDL and HDL. NOW foods sell a good form of RYR, which includes CoQ10 and some Milk Thistle as well as Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA). One problem of supplementing with RYR is that it depletes the heart of CoQ10, so when using RYR one must also supplement with CoQ10. 60-100mg ed of CoQ10 should be sufficient whilst on RYR.
Due to loss of libido being a possible issue with some (but most users do not report this to any great depth), one may consider the use of Tribulus Terrestris as a supplement to include in one's PCT.

[G.O.D.]

That sounds a lil heavy...i'm trying to cut by the way.

What you know about T Rex?

[IJ_Rizzo]

That sounds a lil heavy...i'm trying to cut by the way.

What you know about T Rex?


Test booster?

You're better off getting Diesel Test. It's the king of natural testosterone boosters.

[G.O.D.]

Test booster?

You're better off getting Diesel Test. It's the king of natural testosterone boosters.

it's a thermoexin(sp)...supposed to be great for energy and increasing calorie burn.

[G.O.D.]

So, I decided not to fucck with the Superdrol just yet and instead ordered some Red Acid and Green Bulge creatine recommended by IJ...hopefully in conjunction with a little more strict of a diet and working out, this shiet can get me over my plateau.

[AmmunitionVX]

real talk

When i'm eating salad with tuna and chicken breast in it day in, and day out...my muscles feel depleted and small...but i can eat something much more unhealthy, but maybe only eat 2 times that day...and the next day...i feel tighter/leaner...how can this be?

It makes me want to stop focusing so much on what i eat, as opposed to how much i eat.


one word, carbs ... they will make u look fuller..

[AmmunitionVX]

That sounds a lil heavy...i'm trying to cut by the way.

What you know about T Rex?



It's winter, why cut now?

[G.O.D.]

It's winter, why cut now?

I was thinking about this too...was actually thinking about holding on to the Red Acid i'm getting until it gets warmer.

Peep...I copped some Green Bulge (creatine) and Red Acid (fat burner).

I was going to use both at the same time. Should I do both at same time? Or just cycle the Creatine now, and the Red Acid when it gets warmer?

[AmmunitionVX]

I was thinking about this too...was actually thinking about holding on to the Red Acid i'm getting until it gets warmer.

Peep...I copped some Green Bulge (creatine) and Red Acid (fat burner).

I was going to use both at the same time. Should I do both at same time? Or just cycle the Creatine now, and the Red Acid when it gets warmer?

man, I hear this alot, should I use creatine n a fat burner at the sametime.. Truely I dont know, some people say yeah and some say no, since creatine helps u to gain water weight and a fat burner helps take it off.

You really shouldn't use creatine during a cutting cycle tho, since it's really for bulking, Unless it's right after a workout( i have to research this again, creatine may slow down the digest process.. It's been a minute and I've lost some of my knowledge :( )

I wouldn't do it tho.... I'd use one or the other..

[G.O.D.]

man, I hear this alot, should I use creatine n a fat burner at the sametime.. Truely I dont know, some people say yeah and some say no, since creatine helps u to gain water weight and a fat burner helps take it off.

You really shouldn't use creatine during a cutting cycle tho, since it's really for bulking, Unless it's right after a workout( i have to research this again, creatine may slow down the digest process.. It's been a minute and I've lost some of my knowledge :( )

I wouldn't do it tho.... I'd use one or the other..

Yea, plus i'm new to suppliments aside from flaxseed/whey/multis, so i might be better off doing 1 at a time.

And on 2nd thought, it might be more effective for me to cut in the winter with the help of Red Acid then waiting when it gets warmer when making it to the gym, working out outdoors in heat, eating less etc is a lot easier to do.

I'll probably cycle the red acid first, then use Green bulge.

Should I focus more on lifting while cutting with this fat burner? I'm thinking that may be better. plus i do cardio hard, this shiet already supposed to heat up your body, i ain't tryna die LoL

[AmmunitionVX]

Should I focus more on lifting while cutting with this fat burner? I'm thinking that may be better. plus i do cardio hard, this shiet already supposed to heat up your body, i ain't tryna die LoL


well, most likely you'll loose some strength during cutting, but i'd still lift hard, something like 45 minutes of lifting weights and then right after 20 minutes of cardio, since u'll mostly burn FAT during this time then carbs..


Getting to where you want is really like 80% Diet/Rest and the rest working out. I hope you got the flaxseed that comes in the liquid form and not that capsule crap, the omega 3 and omega 6 or 9, will help with burning some fat, Fish oil is suppose to be better then flaxseed but that crap made me sick, Also Natural Peanut is a good source of the good fats. Make sure it's natural tho ..


Watch how much lifting and Cardio you do......Doing too much will work against you..