NY got served so bad by the west coast during the Bi-Costal Beef its a shock yall rep

[westkoast2k2]

nah i didnt say sales were all that matter stop twisting words
im saying west coast makes generally wack music and thats that

Hate to break it to ya but NY is putting out some hot garbage. Save Nas and thats about it right now.

Besides without sales how would you know if the westcoast was relevant on a national scale? You been doin surveys in each state lol

[Spontaneous Piff]

Im sayin.Drop a Gem on on was a good diss.But lets not act like i was classic and sh1t.. Chino XL's freestyle diss was better. NY just puts everything NY on a pedastal and boosts it up more than it should be. Like NY n1ggas callin almost every Wu Tang album classic and sh1t.Disgustin.
The 1st 5 Wu Related Albums that dropped where classic, the WEst Coast never had consistancy like that. Snoop's second album was crap, Dogg Pounds second album was crap.

[westkoast2k2]

The 1st 5 Wu Related Albums that dropped where classic, the WEst Coast never had consistancy like that .

*watches credibility leak out of thread*

Getthafukkouttahere....ever heard of a guy named Ice Cube? He actually was apart of 5 classics.

[syntony4872]

Thats another thing, NY did not "Back down" when Snoop and Suge said what they said at the Source awards. First of all Snoop looked like a baby who was mad because he was getting no love. I recall them getting boo'd off the stage, NY was in the house that night, maybe you were watching a different show. Your blowing sh*t way out of proportion...they had to play "Clap tracks" to cover up the boo's and anger at the Source Awards.

just the fact that they did that says it all... east heads come to west on award tip they get robbed or they get checked...(ie bad boy vs. outlawz/deathrow- source awards 2000)

lol puff was the one looking like a ***** "i wanna congratulate blah blah" trying to calm **** down when they in thier own home town.... let any ny rapper try that bull**** here on the west and they dont come home to ny they stay like biggie....

[Mr. Smoke Weed]

Hate to break it to ya but NY is putting out some hot garbage. Save Nas and thats about it right now.

Besides without sales how would you know if the westcoast was relevant on a national scale? You been doin surveys in each state lol
you know what i mean, west coast has no good mainstream artists now, except for 2pac and he's been dead for 5+ years

[Farles]

How did the West "expose us"?

Their savior is FROM FUUCKING NEw York. Got reckless, got shot the fuuck up....THRWICE! And raped in jail.

No one else was getting at any MCs really, aside from little subliminal shiit.

Y'all act like NY, NY is even really a diss track. They say nobody's name,none of verse even mentions new york either.

What major disses did these faggots have besides "Hit 'Em Up" which got the author where the worms and the weak be?

sonned

[syntony4872]

In terms of the Fantasy world of "Video's"
The LA, LA video was better, instead of a corny godzilla esque squashing of the city, DoggPound got kidnapped, dropped off the 59th Street Bridge and one jumped off the roof of a project...


Though that is moot cause Kurupt and Nore are close or whatever now.

Regardless, Pac didn't son no one with hit em up, he sounded like a cry baby, Real N*ggaz don't name names, and leave area for the police to question.

BTW, "Drop a Gem On Em" DEMORALIZED AND PISSED ON TUPAC with out even mentioning his name. Song was so ill no names had to be named, people just knew...

"Remind you of Robberies in manhattan, you know what happened"

you know what happened... All these thug rappers now talking sh*t, they was listening to "Drop a GEm On Em" when they were still in J.R. High


*lol drop a gem on em probally only got played on the internet or in east coast cities... while hit em up went plat. as a single with how do u want it.*

they were bumping that **** in ny for christ sake.... ras kass "sonset" straight tells u that you ny *****es need to stop wit the sublimial rap and jus say a fukking name...

lets see pac hit em up:

1. been copied by em and ffity as a diss
2. straight exposed faith and had biggie looking like a ******
3. straight named names all day.. even took shots a chino xl who with ny excuses would have "been to small time to reply"
4. got no fukking respoinse by bigge smalls aka the kony... how u not gonna respond even on a mixtape or a b-side to a single but instead make a song wit junior mafia and a video depicting what probally happend when faith got home after hit em up got played.. lol
5 comparing drop a gem to hit em up .wtf say a fukking name dont be a ***** and do subliminal ****... and if u see now who is talking **** about mobb deep (littles) a guy who knows them who is basically co signing everything pac said in hitem up 9 fukking years ago

[Spontaneous Piff]

LOL name those 10......the bias around here is something serious.

I wish people would understand that of course NY music appeals more to NYers just like westcoast music appeals more to people on the westcoast. I relate more to a guy talking about driving down sunset on a sunny day looking at women and laughing at bums.....then I do a guy talking about being in timbaland boots in the middle of Harlem in Decemeber when its snowing.


Illmatic
The Infamous
Dah Shinin
Enter The 36
Only Built 4 Cuban Link
Nocturnal
Whut?! Thee Album
Liquid Swords
Tical
Enta Da Stage
It Was Written
Hell On Earth
Muddy Waters
Soul in The Hole Sdtk
Ready To Die
Life After Death
Reasonable Doubt
Doe or Die
Dare iz a Dark Side
Hard To Earn


Are you f*cking kidding me?

....the west had albums that were not on this caliber. Production and Lyrics

I can easily say

Dah Shinin > Everything after Doggstyle

[syntony4872]

sonned

" in the east we can be brothers but come to the west watch them muterfukking colors"

[12 inch]

Durning the West vs. East beef West won easily
Hit em Up, New York New York...nuff said

Case Closed

[Farles]

and cut-chemist & nu-mark

Alchemist is overrated
Keep it thorough - without the horns its a really wack beat
We gonn make it - wack
worst comes to worst - been done like 40 times
Book of rhymes - not a good beat
most of 1st infantry has average beats

someone just started listening to hiphop yesterday

[syntony4872]

Illmatic
The Infamous
Dah Shinin
Enter The 36
Only Built 4 Cuban Link
Nocturnal
Whut?! Thee Album
Liquid Swords
Tical
Enta Da Stage
It Was Written
Hell On Earth
Muddy Waters
Soul in The Hole Sdtk
Ready To Die
Life After Death
Reasonable Doubt
Doe or Die
Dare iz a Dark Side
Hard To Earn


Are you f*cking kidding me?

....the west had albums that were not on this caliber. Production and Lyrics

I can easily say

Dah Shinin > Everything after Doggstyle


warren g-regulators..
dj quik-safe and sound,quik is the name
tupac-aoem,makavelli,me against the world.
wsc-bow down
snoop -doggystyle
dogg pound -dogg food.
compton most wanted-music to driveby to0
ras kass- soul on ice
luinz-operation stacokla/lunatic music
too short-too many albums to list
e-40 the click -in a major way
rappin 4 tay- dont fight the feeling..
list goes on and on


all the east rappers now straight biting that west coast sound and image of 1993-1997... they aint emulating that boot camp or wu sound , all theire **** is gangster talk over g funk melodic beats...

[12 inch]

sh1t like illmatic and any WU album had zero imapact

check out 2pac, chronic, doggystyle and that sh1tis STILL jacked today

[pacni99a12]

Regardless, Pac didn't son no one with hit em up, he sounded like a cry baby, Real N*ggaz don't name names, and leave area for the police to question.




LOL at rules.Real n1ggaz do what the fvck they wanna do.

[skanky80]

People actually took WSC seriously?

f*cking idiots...

[Grand Verbalizer]

People actually took WSC seriously?

f*cking idiots...


have you heard the Ghost/El-p sh!t yet ?

[skanky80]

have you heard the Ghost/El-p sh!t yet ?

yeah man, kinda hard to hear because of song/stereo quality. but from what i can decipher i likes

[Jmc23]

lol @ the west coast.

[Jmc23]

okay so lets see

pac vs ny..lets look at this objectively..


NY had pac shot, lost his ball, probably got raped in jail in NY...

and...well umm..

pac released a diss song ...wow...


raped, shot and missing a ball >>>>>>>>>>>> way worse >>>>>> saying "fukk u" on record...

:laugh:

hows it feel to have your goat get locked up, shot, lose a ball, robbed and probably raped after the city "mc new york" once named himself after...

no wonder he aint like NYC LMAO :laugh:
yep lol

[chino xl]
a man with one ball should not speak

[pacni99a12]

Im not even from either coast really, but NY lost. Its not hard to see.And LOl aty people actin like Big could have destroyed Pac. Fvck the lyrical sh1t.Nothing Big said could top..
"Thats why I fvcked your b1tch you fat muthafvcka"
"I remember begging *****es to fvck Biggie"


Quit with the could've would've sh1t people.

[Grand Verbalizer]

Quit with the could've would've sh1t people.


it is pretty lame

[pacni99a12]

why do you guys ignore these three facts

1) a bad boy mixtape was about to be released where the whole bad boy responds but pac died before its released

2) original long kiss goodnight

3) original drop a gem on em where pacs named is mentioned

4) lil kims freestyle over big mama thang



did u guys even hear any of these?


2ndly ..remember when jay dissed nas...takeover was on blueprint...nas waited till his album came out to release ether...was nas scared or was he trying to move more units for his album at the same time..

is it unfathomable to think biggie would of murked pac on life after death but pac died so he changed the lyrics to long kiss goodnight out of respect?



But according to most East coast n1ggas, Drop a Gem on Em came out when Pac was alive and was getting play on the radio before it came out on record.So whats was the need for not going with the original?Why were they afraid to release it?Pac was alive wasnt he? Lets not act like they didnt release for sympathy of Pac being dead, when the song supposedly came out when he was alive.

[Hydroking23]

You people need to Remember, Death Row made it "cool" to have ya own label.... WE TAUGHT YA'LL how to get money..... The east made hella classic albums, but were they selling? Not really, 1994 saw the release of lots of classic east coast albums, as well as west coast ones. Me against the world was the #1 album with no promotion, no tour, no nothing cuz Pac was in prison, and it still sold more than illmatic, anything put out by Wu or anything put out from the East for that matter, but thats not even stating the fact that Doggystyle sold more than Pac's... The east made classic albums but the West made classic albums that sold millions.. its funny that 2pac in his death sells more than Nas, and damn near as much as Jay-z....

lol @ biggie gettin "paid for pu$$y"

[pacni99a12]

You people need to Remember, Death Row made it "cool" to have ya own label.... WE TAUGHT YA'LL how to get money..... The east made hella classic albums, but were they selling? Not really, 1994 saw the release of lots of classic east coast albums, as well as west coast ones. Me against the world was the #1 album with no promotion, no tour, no nothing cuz Pac was in prison, and it still sold more than illmatic, anything put out by Wu or anything put out from the East for that matter, but thats not even stating the fact that Doggystyle sold more than Pac's... The east made classic albums but the West made classic albums that sold millions.. its funny that 2pac in his death sells more than Nas, and damn near as much as Jay-z....

lol @ biggie gettin "paid for pu$$y"


I messed up on the quote.Pac was begging b1tches b1tches to fvck Biggie, not paying.

[Hydroking23]

I messed up on the quote.Pac was begging b1tches b1tches to fvck Biggie, not paying.


hahah thats just as bad....

[pacni99a12]

hahah thats just as bad....


yeah it is.Thats why Big didnt really diss him publicly.Big was afraid sh1t like that would get out, cause Pac had so much dirt on him.Thats what n1ggas fear in a battle, not wordplay and sh1t.

[Dunny Brasko]

Hit em up is thee most embarassing diss ever, save RMG'z. Biggie's my favorite, but that shyt was vicious. All out og version was sick aswell.

[Spontaneous Piff]

" in the east we can be brothers but come to the west watch them muterfukking colors"
thats even more gay, it showed how immature the west coast artists were...


This is Tupacs diss to mobb deep
"F*ck Mobb Deep we Ride on Our Enemies"

wow....thats some real powerfull sh*t LOL...

Get off the mans nuts...
He was one of the only DECENT rappers you had, and of course he had roots in NY

[Spontaneous Piff]

You people need to Remember, Death Row made it "cool" to have ya own label.... WE TAUGHT YA'LL how to get money..... The east made hella classic albums, but were they selling? Not really, 1994 saw the release of lots of classic east coast albums, as well as west coast ones. Me against the world was the #1 album with no promotion, no tour, no nothing cuz Pac was in prison, and it still sold more than illmatic, anything put out by Wu or anything put out from the East for that matter, but thats not even stating the fact that Doggystyle sold more than Pac's... The east made classic albums but the West made classic albums that sold millions.. its funny that 2pac in his death sells more than Nas, and damn near as much as Jay-z....

lol @ biggie gettin "paid for pu$$y"
.....????????

Beastie Boys had their own label before "Death Row"
Thats like you dumb n*ggaz saying "Pac started the bandana trend" , "Pac started Drive by's" "Pac was the first rapper to wear a wife beater"

GROW UP you simple minded faggots

[Spontaneous Piff]

warren g-regulators..
dj quik-safe and sound,quik is the name
tupac-aoem,makavelli,me against the world.
wsc-bow down
snoop -doggystyle
dogg pound -dogg food.
compton most wanted-music to driveby to0
ras kass- soul on ice
luinz-operation stacokla/lunatic music
too short-too many albums to list
e-40 the click -in a major way
rappin 4 tay- dont fight the feeling..
list goes on and on


all the east rappers now straight biting that west coast sound and image of 1993-1997... they aint emulating that boot camp or wu sound , all theire **** is gangster talk over g funk melodic beats...
N*gga you just naming albums....4 of the ones you listed are good..
"Don't Fight The Feeling" Was SEVERLY over-rated, don't front on that...
"Music to Driveby to" was wack, why its on your list I got no clue
"Operation Stackola" was cool....but it was no classic, it was just a album that was released during that era, along with the rest of the albums you listed.

You putting "Me Against The World" next to "In a Major Way" ??????????????????????????? ROTFLAO, that right there shows you hold no weight in terms of what we are talking about, and this thread is useless....

How do you compare a album like "IN a Major Way" to Doe or Die? You can't Doe or Die > In A Major Way
everything I listed, Sonn's the crap out of the "everyday" crap you posted

[Spontaneous Piff]

LOL at rules.Real n1ggaz do what the fvck they wanna do.
Then your idea of "real n*ggaz" are retarded idiots that DO belong in prison.
You would sh*t your pants in the pressence of a "real n*gga" white boy....stop acting like its cool....its not...you never been around real cats before in your life, you sit at home and listen to tupac and think he is gonna come save you when the average bully comes around to collect his money that you owe him for protection. So while you getting sonned by Bully's your talking about "real street cats" that would cut the sh*t out of you.....

you should not talk about sh*t you know nothing about

The fact that this thread was made PROVES that the West Lost...
If you guys won, why do you feel the need to make a thread every so often to try to get our attention? Cause the West has been dead since Pac got shot

[Roovers410]

if naming someone is the way 2 win a diss

NAS NAS NAS NAS NAS NAS NAS... yes I won !!

get the fukk out

it may be real Ill give you that..but how is saying thats why I fukked your ***** you fat motherfukker..fukk badboy bla bla showing any SKILL against ... I lay my game flat I want my spot back take 2 motherfukkers mad because I blew *****z envy us 2 many *****z on my ****...or Im flaming gats aiming at fukkin maniacs put my name in raps ..

**** If you dont see the difference in skill DAMN

[westkoast2k2]

.....????????

Beastie Boys had their own label before "Death Row"
Thats like you dumb n*ggaz saying "Pac started the bandana trend" , "Pac started Drive by's" "Pac was the first rapper to wear a wife beater"

GROW UP you simple minded faggots

Actually..Eazy-E made it cool to have your own label and was one of the very first MCs who owned his own successfull label. Who owned their own label and was putting out platnium plus records in the 80s?

Step ya arguing game up ya simple minded moron...lol @ west being dead since Pac got shot. Doods really do make **** up around here and swear its true.

[Ronald Dregan]

you know what i mean, west coast has no good mainstream artists now

Thats why u NY'ers contnue to say that the West is dead. Theres too many sheeps who follow Top 40 trends

[pacni99a12]

if naming someone is the way 2 win a diss

NAS NAS NAS NAS NAS NAS NAS... yes I won !!

get the fukk out

it may be real Ill give you that..but how is saying thats why I fukked your ***** you fat motherfukker..fukk badboy bla bla showing any SKILL against ... I lay my game flat I want my spot back take 2 motherfukkers mad because I blew *****z envy us 2 many *****z on my ****...or Im flaming gats aiming at fukkin maniacs put my name in raps ..

**** If you dont see the difference in skill DAMN


Disses are about the content and what you have to say about a dude.Not how good you can flip the lyrics and wordplay and sh1t. Its all about what material you have on a dude.Pac saying "that why I fvcked your wife" and "I remember begging b1tches to fvck Biggie" is some embarassing sh1t.You cant combat that with just lyrical display.Listen to Long Kiss Goodnight.Its tight lyrically.But what does he really say to embarass Pac. "Choke you out to your face blue" ? Come on, that sh1t dont hit Pac hard. Its just lyrical display.N1ggas was listening to Hit Em Up like "dayumm", when he said certain sh1t. "Remember when I use to let you sleep on the couch and beg the b1tch to let you sleep in the house". Cause n1ggas feel that sh1t is true.Biggie doesnt expose any real situations.

[Roovers410]

heard 2 the grapevine you got fukked 4 times.

[pacni99a12]

heard 2 the grapevine you got fukked 4 times.


The same thing Mobb Deep and Chino also said. I On the real I though Chino XL's freestyle diss was better than Long Kiss Goodnight, and if released as a song would have got at Pac. Its just that Chino wasnt really known at the time.

[midwest chevy boy]

I was just listenin' to Drop A Gem On 'Em.....How can someone NOT know who that one is about?(robberies in Manhattan,60 Gs worth of gun clappin',must've been drunk when u wrote that sh!t,got raped on the island,NEW YORK GOTCHA,etc)

BUT,I did hear a rumor that when Dogg Pound shot the video to NY NY,that their trailer was gettin' shot at and the DPG was shook and Pac had to come cool things down(wasn't Pac still in jail at this time though???)

As vicious as Pac was on Hit Em Up,he still had homies in NY

[woggle]

No disrespect to the west but quality wise east was running shlt until about 97 when we started compromising our sound. Who gives a fukk about sales anyway. Hey vanilla ice sold a whole lot of albums as well. The problem with the east right now is that they don't stick to their guns. That grimy and lyrical shlt is what we are good at so lets get it started again. As for the coastal war that was when the east was in that versace and mafioso stage so they deserved to get sonned.

[HiphopRelated]

Disses are about the content and what you have to say about a dude.Not how good you can flip the lyrics and wordplay and sh1t. Its all about what material you have on a dude.Pac saying "that why I fvcked your wife" and "I remember begging b1tches to fvck Biggie" is some embarassing sh1t.You cant combat that with just lyrical display.Listen to Long Kiss Goodnight.Its tight lyrically.But what does he really say to embarass Pac. "Choke you out to your face blue" ? Come on, that sh1t dont hit Pac hard. Its just lyrical display.N1ggas was listening to Hit Em Up like "dayumm", when he said certain sh1t. "Remember when I use to let you sleep on the couch and beg the b1tch to let you sleep in the house". Cause n1ggas feel that sh1t is true.Biggie doesnt expose any real situations.
I'm surprised y'all believe half the sh!t Pac said.

How was Pac beggin women to fukk Biggie when he had Kim and his Baby mom's talking about finding numbers before rap? Who do you believe?

Screaming it does not make it true.....

Motherfukkers mad cause I blew, nikkaz envious
Too many nikkaz on my ****, **** strenuous
When my men bust, you just move wit such stamina
Slugs missed ya, I ain't mad at cha (we ain't mad at cha)
Blood rushin, concussions, ain't nothin
Catch cases, come out frontin, smokin somethin

[pacni99a12]

I'm surprised y'all believe half the sh!t Pac said.

How was Pac beggin women to fukk Biggie when he had Kim and his Baby mom's talking about finding numbers before rap? Who do you believe?

Screaming it does not make it true.....

Motherfukkers mad cause I blew, nikkaz envious
Too many nikkaz on my ****, **** strenuous
When my men bust, you just move wit such stamina
Slugs missed ya, I ain't mad at cha (we ain't mad at cha)
Blood rushin, concussions, ain't nothin
Catch cases, come out frontin, smokin somethin




Of all the things Pac was, one thing he wasnt was a flat out liar.N1ggas knew that. And just because he had Kim and that one ugly fat broad who was his baby's mom, doesnt mean Pac didnt have to beg b1tches to fvck him.And mean its not that hard to believe that a b1tch was turned off by Big's looks and Pac had to do some convincing. Quit actin like it that far fetched. Like I said I belive that s the reason Big didnt respond, cause Pac had sh1t on Big he could reveal to the publice..Big didnt really have dirt on Tupac. He didnt have no personal sh1t to reveal.

[HiphopRelated]

Of all the things Pac was, one thing he wasnt was a flat out liar.N1ggas knew that. And just because he had Kim and that one ugly fat broad who was his baby's mom, doesnt mean Pac didnt have to beg b1tches to fvck him.And mean its not that hard to believe that a b1tch was turned off by Big's looks and Pac had to do some convincing. Quit actin like it that far fetched. Like I said I belive that s the reason Big didnt respond, cause Pac had sh1t on Big he could reveal to the publice..Big didnt really have dirt on Tupac. He didnt have no personal sh1t to reveal.
Aiight, I know we're never gonna see eye to eye on this.....lol

Even @ the time it was Puff holding Biggie back from dissing Pac. One of Biggie's interviews just before Pac got shot, he was hinting like he might have something for Pac(maybe Puff told him he could go ahead)..so I doubt he was scared.

Even if Pac begging a b!tch to fukk Biggie is true. This is the same Pac who promised another man sex so he could hook up with a b!tch. Ni99as in glass houses.....

[pacni99a12]

Aiight, I know we're never gonna see eye to eye on this.....lol
Even @ the time it was Puff holding Biggie back from dissing Pac. One of Biggie's interviews just before Pac got shot, he was hinting like he might have something for Pac(maybe Puff told him he could go ahead)..so I doubt he was scared.

Even if Pac begging a b!tch to fukk Biggie is true. This is the same Pac who promised another man sex so he could hook up with a b!tch. Ni99as in glass houses.....



LOL. Cool.I respect your stance though.But we just aint gonna agree on this.

[syntony4872]

N*gga you just naming albums....4 of the ones you listed are good..
"Don't Fight The Feeling" Was SEVERLY over-rated, don't front on that...
"Music to Driveby to" was wack, why its on your list I got no clue
"Operation Stackola" was cool....but it was no classic, it was just a album that was released during that era, along with the rest of the albums you listed.

You putting "Me Against The World" next to "In a Major Way" ??????????????????????????? ROTFLAO, that right there shows you hold no weight in terms of what we are talking about, and this thread is useless....

How do you compare a album like "IN a Major Way" to Doe or Die? You can't Doe or Die > In A Major Way
everything I listed, Sonn's the crap out of the "everyday" crap you posted
.


lol at ur list... ur were doing the same **** listing albums that came out in that era... if u want to go album by album west ****z on ur coast...

*lol at comparing do or die to in a major way.... like that didnt end up playing out later in time with e-40 straight ****ting on az (not subliminaly) and az ***** ass not respoinding back....* nice comparison keep them up



west=truth
east=smoke and mirrors...-claim to be tough but constantly getting sonned..

album by album ***** whenever ur ready

[davis]

i aint from either side, but east got sonned on something nasty.

drop a gem? how can you drop a gem when no one even knows you exist outside of NY? come on lets be realistic on some things. if pac never mentioned mobb deep in hit em up, half these people wouldnt even know who the **** they were.

hit em up did tear biggie and the east apart but lets not take anything away from biggie. even after he got trashed he never lost his credibility and still managed to put out dope music. Eastcoast posters just give up, you cant win them all...and even if you did win them all. YOU STILL LOST THIS ONE!

[Stahanishtik]

i aint from either side, but east got sonned on something nasty.

drop a gem? how can you drop a gem when no one even knows you exist outside of NY? come on lets be realistic on some things. if pac never mentioned mobb deep in hit em up, half these people wouldnt even know who the **** they were.

hit em up did tear biggie and the east apart but lets not take anything away from biggie. even after he got trashed he never lost his credibility and still managed to put out dope music. Eastcoast posters just give up, you cant win them all...and even if you did win them all. YOU STILL LOST THIS ONE!


Hit Em Up


"**** you, die mother****ers die! all of you die!" = a sonning?


LOL.... yall kill me.

[syntony4872]

Hit Em Up


"**** you, die mother****ers die! all of you die!" = a sonning?


LOL.... yall kill me.


that song had the truth behind it so thats why biggie couldnt answer back...the truth behind lyrics will always be better that creative word play...
what mobb said about pac was true he got robbed he got shot so what pac himself says it on his raps...

east is reaching as usual

[The 38 Snubb]

i aint from either side, but east got sonned on something nasty.

drop a gem? how can you drop a gem when no one even knows you exist outside of NY? come on lets be realistic on some things. if pac never mentioned mobb deep in hit em up, half these people wouldnt even know who the **** they were.

hit em up did tear biggie and the east apart but lets not take anything away from biggie. even after he got trashed he never lost his credibility and still managed to put out dope music. Eastcoast posters just give up, you cant win them all...and even if you did win them all. YOU STILL LOST THIS ONE!

shook ones pt2 put mobb deep on the map before 2pac

drop a gem was a good song, when we ride on our enemies is better thou i will definatly say that

biggie didnt respond cause he didnt want to die, he has MOB piru wantin him dead and whatever that sh1t king tut was in extortin his record label he say the wrong sh1t and either of them catch feelings he is dead

and look what happened to him, he got shot the fukk up mob affiliates

pac had all these powerful people in his corner and big had nobody, fukkin lil cease and some scrub crackhead lookin nigs from bed stuy he wasnt on no organized crime mafia type sh1t

i fukk with pac jus he was a little motherfukka who got fukked around his whole life by people and then when he had some scary motherfukkas in his corner he jus explodes on anyone to make up for it

[davis]

shook ones pt2 put mobb deep on the map before 2pac

drop a gem was a good song, when we ride on our enemies is better thou i will definatly say that

biggie didnt respond cause he didnt want to die, he has MOB piru wantin him dead and whatever that sh1t king tut was in extortin his record label he say the wrong sh1t and either of them catch feelings he is dead

and look what happened to him, he got shot the fukk up mob affiliates

pac had all these powerful people in his corner and big had nobody, fukkin lil cease and some scrub crackhead lookin nigs from bed stuy he wasnt on no organized crime mafia type sh1t

i fukk with pac jus he was a little motherfukka who got fukked around his whole life by people and then when he had some scary motherfukkas in his corner he jus explodes on anyone to make up for it

LOL @ lil cease and crackheads.

your right though. big didnt want to die and i dont really blame him, afterall who knew pac more than big and vice versa. i dunno, i think it was brought up here somewhere about them actually seeing eachother sometime in between the beef and pac telling him its all about making some money(correct me if im wrong on this). man after hearing something like that specially from an old friend, whats the point in battling anyway?

oh well theres always obsessed brainwashed fans to finish up the job for you, theyll finish what you help create.

[westkoast2k2]

How come everyone seems to be forgetting the incident at some industry party where Pac called out Junior Mafia and the ONLY person who bothered to come out was actually Lil Cease? Everyone else stayed inside with security.