NY got served so bad by the west coast during the Bi-Costal Beef its a shock yall rep

[Wobble Jazz]

yeah well he served az (so called great underground rapper) by name and didnt get a response..

you can also add ras kass "sonset" damn near putting all ny in check to quit wtih the subliminals...

Why would Az even respond to him? E-40 is a joke, he doesn't have any good material to back up his gibberish

[JAE-L]

man nyers got your mind twisted with that one. BOMB FIRST > > > drop a gem on em

hit em up > bomb first > ny ny > > >> > > > drop a gem on em

oh yeah, why was ny rappers to bytchmade to say a West coast nygga's name on wax? Yall did subliminals for years and was SHOOK to say 2pac or deathrow's name.

And a westcoast mufukka gets a check from those 2.

and 1 is from the midwest...yall slippin

real spit

[Stahanishtik]

lol... i think other NYers here said already said what needed to be said.

NY emcees run hip hop. always have and always will. get over it.

[Stahanishtik]

oh yea and Hit Em Up, is the most overrated diss track of all time... "thats why i fuucked yo ***** you fat mother****er" = the only good line in that whole song.

[UGroup]

Why would Az even respond to him? E-40 is a joke, he doesn't have any good material to back up his gibberish

I like AZ more than E-40 but 40 got @ AZ. I think E-40 is very talented I just don't care for his music as a whole. I like some of his albums and others I just can't f@#k with same with Mack 10. But I can't understand how a lot of East Coast kats hate on these two when they are better talent wise than many rappers who reside on the east coast. You might not like their style but you can't front on the talent. They are both above avg with the lyrics.

[Ed Gizzle]

The ny bias in this thread is so funny

all of a sudden hit em up sucks

all of a sudden the west has like 2 classics

all of a sudden snoop sucks and always has

all of a sudden WSC wasn't the biggest group in 96 outside of the wu

all of a sudden 2pac didn't have the best selling and praised album outside of bias ass NY of all time [at that time] in 96

all of a sudden E-40 didn't son AZ horribly, and AZ didn't back down

all of a sudden NY was running shyt in 95-96 when YOUR RAPPERS say it wasn't

shyt is a joke, usual suspects with their usual rhetoric.

my original post is factual, and the nyers are just dropping opinions on rappers carrers to justify the ABUSE NY got by the west in the 90s.

:laugh:

[pacni99a12]

oh yea and Hit Em Up, is the most overrated diss track of all time... "thats why i fuucked yo ***** you fat mother****er" = the only good line in that whole song.


LOL.You NY n1ggas are somethin else. Hit Em Up overrated?Man thats the vibe your favorite rappers try to create on their diss tracks? But yall are all on Ether's d1ck like it was a legendary diss track. LOl at yall reviising history.Hit Em Up shook the game up and he straight called a n1gga out.Now its overrated" Keep on praising your NY slick subliminal diss tracks.Sh1t is weak.

[Ed Gizzle]

I like AZ more than E-40 but 40 got @ AZ. I think E-40 is very talented I just don't care for his music as a whole. I like some of his albums and others I just can't f@#k with same with Mack 10. But I can't understand how a lot of East Coast kats hate on these two when they are better talent wise than many rappers who reside on the east coast. You might not like their style but you can't front on the talent. They are both above avg with the lyrics.

E-40 shytted all over anthony cruz, its not even funny

I like AZ very much, but E-40 emberassed him, especially considering AZ STARTED IT by hating on 40 for NO REASON

[pacni99a12]

The ny bias in this thread is so funny

all of a sudden hit em up sucks

all of a sudden the west has like 2 classics

all of a sudden snoop sucks and always has

all of a sudden WSC wasn't the biggest group in 96 outside of the wu

all of a sudden 2pac didn't have the best selling and praised album outside of bias ass NY of all time [at that time] in 96

all of a sudden E-40 didn't son AZ horribly, and AZ didn't back down

all of a sudden NY was running shyt in 95-96 when YOUR RAPPERS say it wasn't

shyt is a joke, usual suspects with their usual rhetoric.

my original post is factual, and the nyers are just dropping opinions on rappers carrers to justify the ABUSE NY got by the west in the 90s.

:laugh:


Im sayin.Im not from the NY or Cali, but the West sonned the sh1t out of the East.

[Ed Gizzle]

LOL.You NY n1ggas are somethin else. Hit Em Up overrated?Man thats the vibe your favorite rappers try to create on their diss tracks? But yall are all on Ether's d1ck like it was a legendary diss track. LOl at yall reviising history.Hit Em Up shook the game up and he straight called a n1gga out.Now its overrated" Keep on praising your NY slick subliminal diss tracks.Sh1t is weak.


ain't that bullshyt crazy? Hit em up is the greatest diss ever, and nyers on here talkin about LA LA and drop a gem on em, the most bytchmade subliminal disses ever are better...

horrible

[UGroup]

E-40 shytted all over anthony cruz, its not even funny

I like AZ very much, but E-40 emberassed him, especially considering AZ STARTED IT by hating on 40 for NO REASON
All of NY hate E-40 for NO REASON. He did embarass AZ and Rasheed Wallace.

[Wobble Jazz]

E-40 shytted all over anthony cruz, its not even funny

I like AZ very much, but E-40 emberassed him, especially considering AZ STARTED IT by hating on 40 for NO REASON

You are saying hating on E-40 isn't justified?

He is a garbage MC who just spits jibberish, and his whole style is wack....He has contributed nothing to hip hop, and his material is garbage

Why would AZ alienate his west coast fans by going at someone who is loved on the west (for reasons only God knows)?

[Ed Gizzle]

All of NY hate E-40 for NO REASON. He did embarass AZ and Rasheed Wallace.


lol honestly, his abuse of Rasheed wallace was even funnier than his sonning of AZ :laugh:

[Wobble Jazz]

ain't that bullshyt crazy? Hit em up is the greatest diss ever

No it isn't

And Drop a Gem on Em isn't subliminal when you know who they are talking about the whole time......Its more creative to make subliminal disses then to just call someone out......

[Ed Gizzle]

You are saying hating on E-40 isn't justified?

He is a garbage MC who just spits jibberish, and his whole style is wack....He has contributed nothing to hip hop, and his material is garbage

you say things like this, and it is obvious you have never heard his catalog, and are just hating. You lose all credibility here



Why would AZ alienate his west coast fans by going at someone who is loved on the west (for reasons only God knows)?

He said, in vibe [or rap pages, i forget which], for no reason WHATSOEVER, that E-40 doesn't deserve a platinum plaque.

E-40 had never adressed him, ever, and for that, AZ paid the price.

E-40 has gone platinum.

AZ on the other hand? :whistle:

This isn't an E-40 thread by the way, i give up on those, but you're really playing yourself Jazz [no pun intended]

[Ed Gizzle]

No it isn't

And Drop a Gem on Em isn't subliminal when you know who they are talking about the whole time......Its more creative to make subliminal disses then to just call someone out......

you're desperate

[UGroup]

lol honestly, his abuse of Rasheed wallace was even funnier than his sonning of AZ :laugh:
Did Rasheed ever respond to E-40? He is heavly into Hip hop.

[pacni99a12]

you're desperate


Im sayin.Drop a Gem on on was a good diss.But lets not act like i was classic and sh1t.. Chino XL's freestyle diss was better. NY just puts everything NY on a pedastal and boosts it up more than it should be. Like NY n1ggas callin almost every Wu Tang album classic and sh1t.Disgustin.

[powderballn]

[QUOTE=Wobble Jazz]You are saying hating on E-40 isn't justified?

He is a garbage MC who just spits jibberish, and his whole style is wack....He has contributed nothing to hip hop, and his material is garbage

BITE YA TOUNGE PLAYA-RELLI E40 got his own language and showed cats they dont gotta be like everyone else, thats a contribution in itself...



"You gotta be HIGH to listen to this ****"-Brotha Lynch Hung, Season of Da Siccness


E40, WHILE HIGH=Dopeness


West was WAAAY more Gangsta in the "90"'s Eastcoast hasnt been the same eversince.



"Sprinkle me","here comes the tymer.. ooh ooh ohoh....lol-now that ish was wack...hahahaaha

[Stahanishtik]

LOL.You NY n1ggas are somethin else. Hit Em Up overrated?Man thats the vibe your favorite rappers try to create on their diss tracks? But yall are all on Ether's d1ck like it was a legendary diss track. LOl at yall reviising history.Hit Em Up shook the game up and he straight called a n1gga out.Now its overrated" Keep on praising your NY slick subliminal diss tracks.Sh1t is weak.

LOL @ you.

can you give me some sick quotables from Hit Em Up?

please.


and i wasnt really impressed with Ether.

[PayPuh]

You know what I think is funny? The only thing yall NY'ers can do to defend yourself is come in here and completely disregard the songs like NY artists are on another level. Then you say the west coast ain't sh!t, yet you have to make threads 8 pages deep cause you get sh!tted on every other post.

I am laughing my ass off over here. The west from 91-96 is better than ANY coast during ANY era of the genre.

[Wobble Jazz]

you're desperate

Its not deperation, its the truth.....

You are saying that Hit Em Up is the greatest diss ever, you are desperate to prve yourself when you are just wrong

[pacni99a12]

[QUOTE=Wobble Jazz]You are saying hating on E-40 isn't justified?

He is a garbage MC who just spits jibberish, and his whole style is wack....He has contributed nothing to hip hop, and his material is garbage

BITE YA TOUNGE PLAYA-RELLI E40 got his own language and showed cats they dont gotta be like everyone else, thats a contribution in itself...



"You gotta be HIGH to listen to this ****"-Brotha Lynch Hung, Season of Da Siccness


E40, WHILE HIGH=Dopeness


West was WAAAY more Gangsta in the "90"'s Eastcoast hasnt been the same eversince.



"Sprinkle me","here comes the tymer.. ooh ooh ohoh....lol-now that ish was wack...hahahaaha


The West has always been about style and originality. Lets not act like the east doesnt bite the West;s sh1t. West started the gangta sh1t, NY bit that. Biggie was an East Coast artist who like to use the West Coast sound. All your artists are on Tupac's d1ck and bite him to death (50 Cent,DMX,Ja Rule). Oh yeah, and the West have diss tracks on lock. They natural style just comes through better and more powerful.Cube and Pac's diss tracks>NY n1ggas diss tracks.

[pacni99a12]

Its not deperation, its the truth.....

You are saying that Hit Em Up is the greatest diss ever, you are desperate to prve yourself when you are just wrong


It my not be the best but its one of them.Only n1gga I can think of that fvcks ith Pac as far as powerful disses is Cube.

[Wobble Jazz]

The West has always been about style and originality. Lets not act like the east doesnt bite the West;s sh1t. West started the gangta sh1t, NY bit that. Biggie was an East Coast artist who like to use the West Coast sound. All your artists are on Tupac's d1ck and bite him to death (50 Cent,DMX,Ja Rule). Oh yeah, and the West have diss tracks on lock. They natural style just comes through better and more powerful.Cube and Pac's diss tracks>NY n1ggas diss tracks.

Disses back in the day sh!t all over west coast disses.....ANY OF THEM

And the east coast started rap, and the west coast bit it and started doing it.....Your argument is officially dead

[pacni99a12]

Disses back in the day sh!t all over west coast disses.....ANY OF THEM

And the east coast started rap, and the west coast bit it and started doing it.....Your argument is officially dead


I knew you'd say that sh1t about about biting hip hop.Thats like saying blacks bit b-ball from whites. Im sorry dog but West Coast disses just hit harder. King of The Hill,No Vaseline,Real Muthafvckin G;s,Hit Em Up,Against Alkl Odds,>anything from the East.I really mean it.There some good dissers out West but not for how many MC;s yall got.Only n1ggas I really feel on the diss tip are KRS,LL,and Bis.

[Ed Gizzle]

Its not deperation, its the truth.....

You are saying that Hit Em Up is the greatest diss ever, you are desperate to prve yourself when you are just wrong


for 1, that is your opinion, of which is so blatantly biased its not even respectable.

2. Hit em up went at an entire coast, completely sonned them, he dissed every major rapper in your city outside of the wu and nas [of whom he adressed a few months later] and was laughin the whole time. Unlike NY rappers he was saying

Junior mafia are some mark ass bytches
Thats why i fukked your bytch you fat motherfukker
fukk bad boy as a record label staff and a crew
chino xl, fukk you too
he gives mobb deep, not even a bar....just a line of shyt talking at the end. totally taking away any respect they had.

as in, HE WAS NAMING NAMES, not giving a fukk about yall divine right in hip hop.

Thats the difference between the east and west of the era, they wasn't scared of nyers, meanwhile yall was dropping subliminals... :dry:

[Wobble Jazz]

I knew you'd say that sh1t about about biting hip hop.Thats like saying blacks bit b-ball from whites. Im sorry dog but West Coast disses just hit harder. King of The Hill,No Vaseline,Real Muthafvckin G;s,Hit Em Up,Against Alkl Odds,>anything from the East.I really mean it.

Better than the bridge is over?

Your fukking crazy

[pacni99a12]

Better than the bridge is over?

Your fukking crazy



Thats one track dog. Classic diss track.But they are few and far between on the East.

[THACEO]

LOL.You NY n1ggas are somethin else. Hit Em Up overrated?Man thats the vibe your favorite rappers try to create on their diss tracks? But yall are all on Ether's d1ck like it was a legendary diss track. LOl at yall reviising history.Hit Em Up shook the game up and he straight called a n1gga out.Now its overrated" Keep on praising your NY slick subliminal diss tracks.Sh1t is weak.
he's just a young boy who probably didnt listen to hip-hop then. i always tell these young ones born in 1986 u cant fully appreciate hip-hop by downloading and listenin to mp3s from your computer.
these young cats analyze rap thru punchlines and metaphors and wordplay. that is plastic rap and gets corny. listen to someone like lloyd banks. he's run out of his punclines metaphors etc... spittin very corny sh1t.

Hit Em Up is the greatest diss track ever. its from the heart. the best part about it is the outro.

[Stahanishtik]

he's just a young boy who probably didnt listen to hip-hop then. .


uh.... no. im just a fan of lyrics :rolleyes:

[HiphopRelated]

Hit' Em up is viewed in 2 ways depending on which side you backed


West supporter

Pac was ready to kill Biggie, he dissed everybody, had niccas shook

East supporter

Pac sounded hurt and emotional, NOT threatening... nobody shook



That's how I see it

[pacni99a12]

he's just a young boy who probably didnt listen to hip-hop then. i always tell these young ones born in 1986 u cant fully appreciate hip-hop by downloading and listenin to mp3s from your computer.
these young cats analyze rap thru punchlines and metaphors and wordplay. that is plastic rap and gets corny. listen to someone like lloyd banks. he's run out of his punclines metaphors etc... spittin very corny sh1t.

Hit Em Up is the greatest diss track ever. its from the heart. the best part about it is the outro.



Yeeah thats the thing about these n1ggas.Ask them who would win in a battle on wax and they pick the lyrical rapper 99 percent of the time. They just dont get that thats not what wins battles.In order of importance i think its
1.How dope the song is (beat,overall sound.Is it listenable)
2.How potent is the diss(is it truthful, does it hit hard.)
3.Delivery
4.wordplay,metaphors,etc (last in importance)

Hit Em Up had the first 3.

[ghost718]

To understand this you gotta know how east coast people think,or I should say used to.Cuz nowadays i'm not too sure anymore.Even alot of people on here who claim the east coast I question.But, we are strong dont give a fukk what noone thinks people.This mentality stretches throughout the east.We dont care about this petty rap beef sh1t,we just focus on hiphop.And the proof is the underground 90s hiphop.There is a whole diferent world out there noone knows about cuz it got limited exposure to college radio.But its there.And those that know about it,they know the deal.We just let you fake, weak, Days of Our Lives soap opera muthafukkas eat this type of sh1t up.I gotta question even if you dudes are hiphop fans if you let this garbage fukk your head up

[FuriousStyles1]

Too Short, Spice 1, MC Eiht, DJ Quik were also sellin gold or plat while E-40 was sellin gold on independent s@#t. Since you mentioned Dah Shinin which didn't sell a lot the West had 93 Til Infinty, Inner City Griots, Bizarre Ride to The Pharcye, 21 and Over, Fear Itself, No Need For Alarm and etc. The point I'm trying to make is that during 92-96 the West and East were both selling records while also puttin out classic and quality albums. Just the West was sellin more. I'm glad I don't limit myself to just West Coast music I would missed out on the classic s@#t from other regions.

You forgot Cypress Hill...Temples of Boom was big when it dropped....lol motherfvckers from NY are afraid to admit that westcoast music is just as bangin...


It's always been like that though.....

[JAE-L]

people hate on E 40 so much its. U may not like 40's style or whatever but this man is a self made millionare that was one of the pioneers of the independend rap hustle. he sold records literally out tha trunk and bubbled into a million dolla tycoon u cant deny or dispute that. he is responsilbe for givin the hip hop world so much game. im readin cats on here talkin about 40 has contributed nothin to hip hop, but east coast rappers as well as the south use his words(oh boy, its nuthin, poppin collaz, fa sheezy) the whole 9 and give no homage. but honestly many of us in the bay really dont give a phuk cuz we really know where the shyt came from. ny really does have that arrogant azz attitude where they wont even open there eyes to anything but there own shyt. its sad that the whole east coast beef left 2 of the best mc's dead and we sit up here and argue about who won. who really wins when 2 of the best die? nobody. is there a hip hop trophy out there that is presented for who can kill the most rappers.

[mc_brew]

who really wins when 2 of the best die?
hip hop lost

[INS_tha_rebel]

Yeah we were so scared that DPG's trailor for the New York video got shot up with them niiggaz in there dodging bullets.

Scared to death I tell ya...

Biggie on the radio "I can't believe NY is allowing Snoop, Tupac and the dogg pound to shoot a video in times square. What kind of sh!t is this? This is our city and you know the beef we have with these muthafuccaz.

Look what happened when Biggie came to LA

[INS_tha_rebel]

Basically.They made diss tracks, we popped gats.

Plus when New York was in the west all from 1995-1996 and here about no one getting shot at until Biggie died in 1997.

I don't condone it, but them niiggaz got shot at, did NATHAN, and now are irrelevant in the music industry.

Yeah the East lost....

Get the fuuck outta here...

Lol no east coast rapper tried 2 go into LA and shoot a video during that time either. The east coast only came 2 the west for award shows and sh!t.

[INS_tha_rebel]

Sure thing buddy, same goes for the east, who's "poppin them thangs" in new hampshire and rhode island?? John Kerry type N*ggas.... The West started this whole gangsta/thug/real n*gga rap image. Think about it, was anyone from Wu dissed?? no.. Was Rakim?? no.. What about De La, Tribe and so on, none of these people had shots directed at them because they were REAL.. Honestly until hit em up most people around the country(excluding ny) didn't even know who mobb deep were... Dropping subliminal disses is pretty pathetic if you ask me and Biggie was famous for that, only time he really called pac's name out was on Jay's sh*t, but to me that ain't even a diss cuz he's only confirming Pac f*cked his wife "if faith had twins she'd probably have 2 pac's" I lived in cali most my life and then lived in New york for 3 years, I found it hilarious to hear New york New York on the radio out there on hot 97, but i didn't even hear drop a gem on em until 2 years ago... Pac got shot in ny and lived, biggie got shot in L.A and died.. In the end Pac cleared it up in bomb first, its not about east and west... its a few guys against a few guys, and the few guys in the west were tearing those few guys from the east a new a$$hole in terms of disses, plus Ny's "king" was killed on enemy territory. New york new york, WSC sh*t on mobb deep and the New York's fakest, but Hit em up took it to a whole other level....

The West won at that time, once Pac and Biggie Died the East was winning and the West was comatose, but... this whole coastal popularity is cyclical,(hope the slow folks don't trip on that one) because now Vibe magazine is saying no one cares about East Coast rap. The East's last top "selling" rapper was put out by a West Coast N*gga... Say what you want about Jay-z but 50 sold alot more than him nuff said.. The mid west had their time, the south is currently having their time, and Once the Game drops the West will have their time again....

92-96 West won 97-01 East won 2002 - current south and midwest are winning....

I think it was ghostface who got beatdown by deathrow out in vegas and I'm sure WSC dissed Q-Tip

[Deeyo]

the thing is that most of you are young kats who think that whoever yells the loudest wins the argument so if u think whoever yells the loudest wins then I guess west coast won because they sure were yelling alot...:laugh:

"you probably scream louder than a opera...new york gotcha"
-prodigy

RIP west coast...only on that side of the country can they rationalize victory being a decade of silence... whatever floats ya boat

[Ed Gizzle]

the thing is that most of you are young kats who think that whoever yells the loudest wins the argument so if u think whoever yells the loudest wins then I guess west coast won because they sure were yelling alot...:laugh:

"you probably scream louder than a opera...new york gotcha"
-prodigy

RIP west coast...only on that side of the country can they rationalize victory being a decade of silence... whatever floats ya boat

"East coast rap...WHO CARES?" - vibe

[12 inch]

this thread needs to end

the top 3 albums of the year for 2005 will be from dre, game, and quik

[Deeyo]

"East coast rap...WHO CARES?" - vibe

"I get happy everytime a team from NY loses"- ed gizzle thread

your history of inferiority complex is well documented

[Ed Gizzle]

"I get happy everytime a team from NY loses"- ed gizzle thread

your history of inferiority complex is well documented

Infiriority? nah, the midwest is SELLING...i just like to see loudmouthed shyt talkers get put in their place.

Like you have been.

[Rzarector7]

the city still.

I mean, shyt, if a rapper came at michigan somethin vicious and we didn't respond in a respectable way, i'd be ashamed.

Yall got sonned by

2pac
E-40
Dub C
Mac 10
Ice Cube [wsc hoed yall so bad on 'critics in ny']
Snoop
Daz
Kurupt
Suge Knight
and MORE

Worst cases:

2pac serving yall best rapper and entire city on hit em up
WSC destroying all NY media and fans on 'critics in NY'
WSC makin yall bow down
E-40 sonning AZ so bad he hasn't been sucessful since
Snoop kickin down yall buildings and fukkin yall rap game up for years
suge and snoop call yall whole city out in ny at the source awards and yall instantly back down

and how did yall respond?

"La La" ?

feel free to add on to the list, by the waySnoop fukkin up their rap game or years? Where the hell is the damn West at now????? Who got fukked up for years then? Thought so....... Thread is way off, West is a joke now pretty much, no need to make all that response sh*t when they killed themselves.

[12 inch]

watch everyone on sohh giving game online head after he drops his album

[Rzarector7]

I think it was ghostface who got beatdown by deathrow out in vegas and I'm sure WSC dissed Q-Tip
Ghost had mad love for Pac and them, he constantly big uppin them..... Pac had love for the Wu as well, said it numerous times. BTW thread is dumb like someone said, it was not all East and West in that battle, it was mainly just a select few in it and the media got ahold of it and made it out to be some coastal war everyone got sick of. Sh*t died in 96 or so, heads on this board still can't leave it alone when their is peace. BTW didn't DPG after flex got on the radio and said they were sh*tting and told their location get blazed at the same damn day in NY?

[Ed Gizzle]

Snoop fukkin up their rap game or years? Where the hell is the damn West at now????? Who got fukked up for years then? Thought so....... Thread is way off, West is a joke now pretty much, no need to make all that response sh*t when they killed themselves.

Why didn't NY respond though? Scared?

[Deeyo]

Infiriority? nah, the midwest is SELLING...i just like to see loudmouthed shyt talkers get put in their place.

Like you have been.

you claim "midwest"..a large region stretching over many states...

NYC is ONE CITY and in my ONE CITY i can name more people outselling chingy, nelly, em, kanye and twista......

test me