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nicatime
01-06-04, 06:24 PM
I'm really trying to make some good cuts but I ain't feelin my quality at all. I'm workin wit cool edit now. I got a new mic and my voice sounds fine, cept this lisp thing :dry:. I don't know what to mix my vocals to. I would use pro tools but I don't got the hardware. I don't know if I should start saving or not. Can anyone help?

Woo Child
01-06-04, 10:19 PM
get a better mic meaning a large diaphram studio condensor mic with pre-amp....practice at mixing by listening to what other radio ready songs sound like, and trying different things to get yours to sound the same way...but the less you have to do to a track in terms of effects the better, or if they are used, it's minimal....


if you have an ass soundcard, it'd help to invest in another one, that allows 24bit processing and 96 recording....the program you use to record into (Cool Edit) does NOT effect your quality...your recording environment and equipement does.

nicatime
01-07-04, 04:56 PM
i got a new 80.00 mic. it sounds pretty good but maybe it is my sd card. i just got prollems mixin my stuff down but i'll invest in a sd card. thx for replyin n e wayz

Woo Child
01-07-04, 05:47 PM
price has never made anything "good"...i specifically said "large diaphram condensor studio mic" for a reason...get one....you can have a $500 mic, but if it's cardiod, it's always gonna be wack...and no use having a ceondensor mic if you don't have some sort of pre-amp...i have mine running through an old school 8 track mixer, but it has external volume/EQ control which is key, cause your PC is not equiped to make good use of the sounds coming from your mic unless it is pre-processed some how...some hi end soundcards allow this as well...


no use investing if you not investing correctly....do your research

keylomc3
01-07-04, 06:07 PM
yeah i have a good mic, but my quality is still garbage 'cuz my soundcard, look into that.

either that or kill urself.

nicatime
01-07-04, 10:51 PM
price has never made anything "good"...i specifically said "large diaphram condensor studio mic" for a reason...get one....you can have a $500 mic, but if it's cardiod, it's always gonna be wack...and no use having a ceondensor mic if you don't have some sort of pre-amp...i have mine running through an old school 8 track mixer, but it has external volume/EQ control which is key, cause your PC is not equiped to make good use of the sounds coming from your mic unless it is pre-processed some how...some hi end soundcards allow this as well...


no use investing if you not investing correctly....do your research
What kind of mixers u mean? I know razzia told me bout that once but I've seen a couple. I don't know n e thing bout em. I know my new mic goes in thru the usb port and is s'pose to be equipped wit a sound card. Maybe I gotta read directions more.

Woo Child
01-08-04, 04:37 PM
What kind of mixers u mean? I know razzia told me bout that once but I've seen a couple. I don't know n e thing bout em. I know my new mic goes in thru the usb port and is s'pose to be equipped wit a sound card. Maybe I gotta read directions more.
wtf??????


through the USB???????? oh my god...RETURN THAT PIECE OF SHYT and go to musiciansfriend.com and buy ANY MXL large diaphram studio mic....it has the sound quality of a Rode N series for anywhere around $70-300...so you can come out cheaper than your "$80" mic that's obviously a piece of shyt....through the USB man???? no...no mic worth having goes through USB, that's not even a real audio port...and the mixer i have is an 8 track mixer...nothing special, my outboard has a 4 band EQ, pan, aux to outs for each channel, of which there are 4 inputs and 4 outs, and the old fashion analog tape recorder directly onboard...this shyt is as cheap as it gets, but it does the trick, cause i run my mic through it, and my music from my PC back through it to my speakers, so i can do real time mixing onboard as well as on my PC screen :thumbsup:

it's like this....go to musiciansfriend.com and look around, research everything you might need, then do the same thing @ zzsounds.com til you start to gain a knowledge of what you're lookin for and what it does...asking people who can't sit down with you and teach you is a wrong step, educate yourself. look for the shyt, seek the knowledge.

Woo Child
01-08-04, 04:43 PM
yeah i have a good mic, but my quality is still garbage 'cuz my soundcard, look into that.

either that or kill urself.
you prolly don't have a good mic...i'm willing to bet you don't, that or you don't have it hooked up correctly


ya'll just don't know how nominal a sound card really is, cause for the budget you're gonna use on one won't get you ANYTHING that's gonna upgrade your SoundBlaster or SoundBlaster equivalent card. you're still gonna record @ 48/16 which is CD quality, and recording @ 96/24 can't be distinguished by the naked ear anyways, so 99.99% of you wouldn't hear the difference.....but if you're a producer, you can get a relatively cheap sound card that'll allow you to transfer your midi data @ 96/24 if that's any consellation.....but vocals??? ahha...you'll be hard pressed not to spend more on your sound card than you did on your PC

nicatime
01-08-04, 09:14 PM
Aiight I'll be lookin for more info. Thx for ya help.

Merc_Cuban
01-09-04, 01:46 AM
u can check alot of shyt on www.music123.com as well. I have a delta 44 sound card. ps800 mixer and a dope soundcard. One other thing is. YOU HAVE TO have a computer that's AT LEAST a pentium three and you NEED alot of ram. 128 MEGS in the MINIMUM. I got ALMOST 400 megs on my shyt. I just need a new mic and I'm all set

Woo Child
01-09-04, 06:57 AM
u can check alot of shyt on www.music123.com as well. I have a delta 44 sound card. ps800 mixer and a dope soundcard. One other thing is. YOU HAVE TO have a computer that's AT LEAST a pentium three and you NEED alot of ram. 128 MEGS in the MINIMUM. I got ALMOST 400 megs on my shyt. I just need a new mic and I'm all set
pentium 3 750 wit like 640 ram....and my processing speed is still too slow...makes me have to do certain things in an order so that it don't lock up....actually...it just won't let me be sloppy wit it like i want to...makes me do what you're supposed to do like press stop before pressing play again, instead of moving the cursor and pressing play without pressing stop....but that's only when i have more than 1 bus going, so it's manageable.

Mz. ILL Seekah
01-09-04, 11:01 AM
dang lovely post.

I'm going through the same thing

hey Woo are those Behringer condenser mics and pre-amps any good?

Woo Child
01-09-04, 04:21 PM
dang lovely post.

I'm going through the same thing

hey Woo are those Behringer condenser mics and pre-amps any good?
from what i hear, yea....but make sure it's the B-1 or something like it aka large diaphram....small diaphram condensor mics are for instruments and choirs...unless you recording one, don't buy the shyt, get a large diaphram.

Mz. ILL Seekah
01-09-04, 05:56 PM
aight thankz man

also whats up with the SM58? lotta talk bout those

Woo Child
01-09-04, 10:54 PM
aight thankz man

also whats up with the SM58? lotta talk bout those
the only people that talk about the SM58 are internet people who don't know how to build a studio or what they're buying...


i don't fukk wit Shure, cause to me they have the shyttiest product for recording...the SM58 is NOT a studio mic, it is NOT supposed to be used for recording, it IS a performance mic i.e. for live shows, it WILL NOT give you a clean recording of anything becuase it is a CARDIOD mic, not a CONDENSOR...to be honest it's not even a good performance mic, it's actually an overall trash mic that no one should own unless you just don't care about quality.

Merc_Cuban
01-10-04, 08:38 AM
u can check alot of shyt on www.music123.com as well. I have a delta 44 sound card. ps800 mixer and a dope soundcard. One other thing is. YOU HAVE TO have a computer that's AT LEAST a pentium three and you NEED alot of ram. 128 MEGS in the MINIMUM. I got ALMOST 400 megs on my shyt. I just need a new mic and I'm all set


I almost forgot. My comp is a pentium 4 with a 1.7 gig processor

Woo Child
01-11-04, 06:46 PM
I almost forgot. My comp is a pentium 4 with a 1.7 gig processor
1.7 gigs don't do shyt for your sound or quality.....what it does do is allow you to run your programs smoothly and efficiently, which gives you less headache in processing time and stability...slow PCs lock-up and lose sessions, which wastes time and money.


get a mic nicca....

Merc_Cuban
01-12-04, 01:49 AM
1.7 gigs don't do shyt for your sound or quality.....what it does do is allow you to run your programs smoothly and efficiently, which gives you less headache in processing time and stability...slow PCs lock-up and lose sessions, which wastes time and money.


get a mic nicca....


actually it does. My quality improved greatly but having more ram and a faster processer. WOo I work on comps for a living bruh. I don't care how much ram you got. If ya processer is shyt then you'll have shyt quality. you build a GREAT SYSTEM FIRST then add the stereo equipment. I am getting a mic. That's the last piece that I need. I've recorded on various comps and alot of them had MAD RAM but slow processors which fugg up the quality. Sometimes if the processer is REALLY SLOW it's not even fast enough to pick up ya sound as YOU SPIT it and it sounds OFFBEAT. Then if you do any mixing or mastering in ya software programs it LOSES more quality if you don't have more than the minimum required ram and processer.

Woo Child
01-12-04, 07:40 AM
actually it does. My quality improved greatly but having more ram and a faster processer. WOo I work on comps for a living bruh. I don't care how much ram you got. If ya processer is shyt then you'll have shyt quality. you build a GREAT SYSTEM FIRST then add the stereo equipment. I am getting a mic. That's the last piece that I need. I've recorded on various comps and alot of them had MAD RAM but slow processors which fugg up the quality. Sometimes if the processer is REALLY SLOW it's not even fast enough to pick up ya sound as YOU SPIT it and it sounds OFFBEAT. Then if you do any mixing or mastering in ya software programs it LOSES more quality if you don't have more than the minimum required ram and processer.
you find me a computer that can actually run a program without the required specs and i'll applaud you....and i don't care what you work on, the fact that a wack PC can't do real time processing doesn't effect QUALITY, but the performance of the programs you're running...it doesn't add static, distort, or muffle, you know, things that ACTUALLY relate to what we call "quality"...a PC does not create noise in an algorythm aka sound data, it has to already be there...being off-beat from the program skipping isn't quality related, cause the recording could be clean as hell with a nice mic, just off-beat and frustrating...being off beat and frustrated with your systems ability to run high-end programs isn't a quality related problem and never will be.

Merc_Cuban
01-12-04, 12:43 PM
you find me a computer that can actually run a program without the required specs and i'll applaud you....and i don't care what you work on, the fact that a wack PC can't do real time processing doesn't effect QUALITY, but the performance of the programs you're running...it doesn't add static, distort, or muffle, you know, things that ACTUALLY relate to what we call "quality"...a PC does not create noise in an algorythm aka sound data, it has to already be there...being off-beat from the program skipping isn't quality related, cause the recording could be clean as hell with a nice mic, just off-beat and frustrating...being off beat and frustrated with your systems ability to run high-end programs isn't a quality related problem and never will be.


dog I"m trying to tell you if you hav ea comp with 500 megs of ram and the processer is a PENT 2 or PENT 1 then you will have SHYT QUALITY. Why you think PROGRAMS COMES WITH required specifications? There are INSTANCES WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO RUN PROGRAMS on comps IF YOU HAVE ALOT OF RAM OR IF YOU SET YA VIRTUAL MEMORY SETTINGS AS LOW AS POSSIBLE, OR IF YOUR SYSTEM RESOURCES (PREWINDOWXP AND 200) ARE ABOVE 80 percent BY RUNNING AN MSCONFIG and removing all of the programs taking up YA RESOURCES that run on ya taskbar. Shyt I've been able to run GAMES LIKE MADDEN on PENTIUM 2 COMPS because I know how to change the settings and set em low enough to run em. So don't tell me what can't BE DONE. I've troubleshooted comps for 8 YEARS man. I used to work for MICROSOFT. I know what can and can't be done.

keylomc3
01-12-04, 01:03 PM
and they say that anybody can record in this day and age, pffft.. sounds like you have to be mc bill gates to sound nice, lol..

Woo Child
01-12-04, 05:56 PM
dog I"m trying to tell you if you hav ea comp with 500 megs of ram and the processer is a PENT 2 or PENT 1 then you will have SHYT QUALITY. Why you think PROGRAMS COMES WITH required specifications? There are INSTANCES WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO RUN PROGRAMS on comps IF YOU HAVE ALOT OF RAM OR IF YOU SET YA VIRTUAL MEMORY SETTINGS AS LOW AS POSSIBLE, OR IF YOUR SYSTEM RESOURCES (PREWINDOWXP AND 200) ARE ABOVE 80 percent BY RUNNING AN MSCONFIG and removing all of the programs taking up YA RESOURCES that run on ya taskbar. Shyt I've been able to run GAMES LIKE MADDEN on PENTIUM 2 COMPS because I know how to change the settings and set em low enough to run em. So don't tell me what can't BE DONE. I've troubleshooted comps for 8 YEARS man. I used to work for MICROSOFT. I know what can and can't be done.


and yet none of that affects sound quality....when it introduces static, distortion, hum or hiss, then you'll have a point...til then, you're sayin what should already be known, you need a decent computer to run these programs in order to record properly...but no one should be below this stage in the game, and the questions are about SOUND QUALITY not what i need to make Cool Edit run without freezing on me...


and HAHAHAHaHHA @ msconfig...i'm mad you had to work at microsoft to find out about customizing your startup :P


and they say that anybody can record in this day and age, pffft.. sounds like you have to be mc bill gates to sound nice, lol..

nah...but with anything you want to do successfully, you gotta learn what you're doing...the more you know the better off you and your product are and the easier things become...and i'm all about easy, ya dig

Merc_Cuban
01-13-04, 01:06 AM
and yet none of that affects sound quality....when it introduces static, distortion, hum or hiss, then you'll have a point...til then, you're sayin what should already be known, you need a decent computer to run these programs in order to record properly...but no one should be below this stage in the game, and the questions are about SOUND QUALITY not what i need to make Cool Edit run without freezing on me...


and HAHAHAHaHHA @ msconfig...i'm mad you had to work at microsoft to find out about customizing your startup :P







I had to work at microsoft to figure that out? Kid I knew that shyt before I started working there. YOU HAVE TO know ya shyt about comps to get on at MICROSOFT. i had to pass ABOUT 10 TESTS AND GO THROUGH 4 OR 5 INTERVIEWS JUST TO GET HIRED on there. MS CONFIG DOES MORE THAN CONFIGURE you're start up. Please stop talking what you DON'T KNOW. msconfig allows you to CHOOSE which programs and files LOAD when your computer starts up. IT ALSO allows you to choose which SYSTEM AND HARDWARE DEVICES will load up when ya system starts up. It also allows you to KEEP YA AUTOEXEC.BAT AND CONFIG.SYS FILES from loading if you have 98 and ABOVE because windows doesn't need those programs to load. You make it seem like the AVERAGE COMPUTER USER KNOWS ABOUT MSCONFIG. They don't. If they did they wouldn't be calling me asking me wtf it is or how to fix their damn system resources or why is their computer running slow. EVEN IF YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW COMP WITH ALOT OF RAM IF YOU GOT TOO MANY DAMN PROGRAMS AUTOMATICALLY LOADING WHEN YOU BOOT UP YA COMP, IT WILL AFFECT YA COMPUTERS PERFORMANCE AND WHEN YOUR COMPUTER PERFORMANCE IS SHYT THEN EVERY PROGRAM YOU TRY TO LOAD ON YA COMP WILL SUFFER. Man you know nothing. Dog It has somethign to do with sound. You can run those programs on ya COMP IF YOU HAVE ALOT OF RAM. THERE ARE ALOT OF MOTHERBOARDS THAT ALLOW YOU TO ADD MORE RAM BUT YOU CAN'T UPDATE YA PROCESSER CAUSE THE BOARD IS TOO FUCCING OLD. If you run the program on PENT 2 OR LESS you will have static AND HISSING in the background. And when you USE EFFECTS IN COOL EDIT THE QUALITY WILL COME OUT WORSE SOUNDING DUE THE PROCESSER BEING SO DAMN SLOW THAT IT DOESN'T READ THE WAV FILES FAST ENOUGH TO TRANSFORM EM PROPERLY. You won't hear it when you record only when you PLAY IT BACK. HOW YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF COMP THIS CAT GOT? You can run those programs on processers that slow WITHOUT EM FREEZING. One thing I do know is COMPS. I've worked on em for 8 YEARS. stop acting like you know EVERY DAMN THING cause you don't. this is ONE THING i'm 100 percent SURE THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING about. So just DEAD IT

nicatime
01-13-04, 04:30 PM
dang. Ya'll are writing essays.
Anyways, much respect to the person who upped this.

Midnite
01-13-04, 05:00 PM
dang. Ya'll are writing essays.
Anyways, much respect to the person who upped this.


had to up it, this suddenly turned into a classroom/lecture...

welcome to PC Mic Recording101

Woo Child
01-13-04, 05:53 PM
I had to work at microsoft to figure that out? Kid I knew that shyt before I started working there. YOU HAVE TO know ya shyt about comps to get on at MICROSOFT. i had to pass ABOUT 10 TESTS AND GO THROUGH 4 OR 5 INTERVIEWS JUST TO GET HIRED on there. MS CONFIG DOES MORE THAN CONFIGURE you're start up. Please stop talking what you DON'T KNOW. msconfig allows you to CHOOSE which programs and files LOAD when your computer starts up. IT ALSO allows you to choose which SYSTEM AND HARDWARE DEVICES will load up when ya system starts up. It also allows you to KEEP YA AUTOEXEC.BAT AND CONFIG.SYS FILES from loading if you have 98 and ABOVE because windows doesn't need those programs to load. You make it seem like the AVERAGE COMPUTER USER KNOWS ABOUT MSCONFIG. They don't. If they did they wouldn't be calling me asking me wtf it is or how to fix their damn system resources or why is their computer running slow. EVEN IF YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW COMP WITH ALOT OF RAM IF YOU GOT TOO MANY DAMN PROGRAMS AUTOMATICALLY LOADING WHEN YOU BOOT UP YA COMP, IT WILL AFFECT YA COMPUTERS PERFORMANCE AND WHEN YOUR COMPUTER PERFORMANCE IS SHYT THEN EVERY PROGRAM YOU TRY TO LOAD ON YA COMP WILL SUFFER. Man you know nothing. Dog It has somethign to do with sound. You can run those programs on ya COMP IF YOU HAVE ALOT OF RAM. THERE ARE ALOT OF MOTHERBOARDS THAT ALLOW YOU TO ADD MORE RAM BUT YOU CAN'T UPDATE YA PROCESSER CAUSE THE BOARD IS TOO FUCCING OLD. If you run the program on PENT 2 OR LESS you will have static AND HISSING in the background. And when you USE EFFECTS IN COOL EDIT THE QUALITY WILL COME OUT WORSE SOUNDING DUE THE PROCESSER BEING SO DAMN SLOW THAT IT DOESN'T READ THE WAV FILES FAST ENOUGH TO TRANSFORM EM PROPERLY. You won't hear it when you record only when you PLAY IT BACK. HOW YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF COMP THIS CAT GOT? You can run those programs on processers that slow WITHOUT EM FREEZING. One thing I do know is COMPS. I've worked on em for 8 YEARS. stop acting like you know EVERY DAMN THING cause you don't. this is ONE THING i'm 100 percent SURE THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING about. So just DEAD IT


tech support, fine, and don't/never cared about your background...but hissing in the back from processing speed, that's a damn lie...a few songs of mine from Bridge The Gap were recorded on a Pentium II PC...but it had a rode mic and full outboard mixer hooked up to it....no hiss, no humm, no distortion, but very very slow processing and they shyt locked up a few times....hiss and hum both come from the mic and anything else connected to the PC including every wire (yes wires generate internal noise), not from the PC itself....a mic can pick up PC noise which is external, not internal. for all you claim to know about PCs you don't know much about RECORDING, which is the subject @ hand.

p.s. chill on the caps...everyone here is literate.

nicatime
01-24-04, 01:40 PM
so all i need is a good mic for good quality. What about compressions? I know a mic would make quality but now I want my vocals to blend in wit the music. I'm talkin about how all music is today. Do I need to add echo or reverb. I tried somethin like that but i still wasn't gettin what I wanted.

Woo Child
01-25-04, 05:41 PM
so all i need is a good mic for good quality. What about compressions? I know a mic would make quality but now I want my vocals to blend in wit the music. I'm talkin about how all music is today. Do I need to add echo or reverb. I tried somethin like that but i still wasn't gettin what I wanted.


no two engineers are the same, or use the same technique...so basically there is no "right" way to do anything, but you can mimmick someone elses sound through trial and error...train your ear by listening to music you think is mixed well, then try adding effects to see what gets you the desired effect...but i'll let you know this, the fewer effects you use, the better....I use a mastering compressor on vocals, some trueverb, and then it's a matter of getting the volumes correct....also, it's best to mix at lower volumes to avoid clipping, bring up the volume after it's mixed...

rule of thumb, a good recording will make a good mix...a bad recording can't be salvaged, no matter how many effects you add.

but, you're now asking questions that can't be answered or provided for you.....practice and use trial and error.

nicatime
01-26-04, 07:29 PM
no two engineers are the same, or use the same technique...so basically there is no "right" way to do anything, but you can mimmick someone elses sound through trial and error...train your ear by listening to music you think is mixed well, then try adding effects to see what gets you the desired effect...but i'll let you know this, the fewer effects you use, the better....I use a mastering compressor on vocals, some trueverb, and then it's a matter of getting the volumes correct....also, it's best to mix at lower volumes to avoid clipping, bring up the volume after it's mixed...

rule of thumb, a good recording will make a good mix...a bad recording can't be salvaged, no matter how many effects you add.

but, you're now asking questions that can't be answered or provided for you.....practice and use trial and error.
aiight. I ran across this at b-boys. Its helpin me out and this might be a big key to my problems. But thx for all the info and help Woo
http://www.angelfire.com/un/ity/index.html

One

Woo Child
01-26-04, 08:21 PM
aiight. I ran across this at b-boys. Its helpin me out and this might be a big key to my problems. But thx for all the info and help Woo
http://www.angelfire.com/un/ity/index.html

One
boooooooooo @ that bullshyt site


that will NEVER EVER give you CD qualty....plus it's like 3 years old...people were doing shyt like that just after we found out how to make MP3s...quality was wack back then, and was only considered good compared to the other wack ass shyt out, and of course Real Audio, which no one uses anymore. you won't even get close to Dre's quality doin that, and his stuff is pretty clean, but not "Retail" ready, or "CD Quality" if CD quality means Industry Standard. So you shootin well below shyt that's already below what you want.

but do what you feel.

nicatime
01-26-04, 08:35 PM
lol. I admit this ain't givin the industry quality but its helpin out on my pc quality alot. I just ain't got the money right now for no right mic. Its all I can use for my usb port mic :D. Its just helpin me out wit cool edit but I still appreciate the info on pc recordin for pc quality I just can't afford no mic or soundcard right now. The dice game ain't been good to me.

One

nicatime
01-26-04, 10:15 PM
BTW Woo, You know anything about mic modelers? I got one dl'ed but don't get it.

Woo Child
01-27-04, 12:24 AM
BTW Woo, You know anything about mic modelers? I got one dl'ed but don't get it.


antares mic modeler i suppose....it's a coo program, but you gotta have one of the mics on their original mic list in order for it to work properly...what it does is take the specs from the mic on their list and the algorythm it produces in digital data and reconfigures it to the algorythm produced by a mic you choose on their output list, but it's not perfect...and there are NO dynamic mics on the list if i remember correctly...so you can't use it no way, you'll just make your sound muddier than it originally is. And until you plan on doing something for real, there is no use in getting equipement...but if you're serious, you'll get a JOB (lmao@dice game) and invest in yourself, and do it right, cause what you got now, won't get you anywhere.

nicatime
01-27-04, 04:49 PM
antares mic modeler i suppose....it's a coo program, but you gotta have one of the mics on their original mic list in order for it to work properly...what it does is take the specs from the mic on their list and the algorythm it produces in digital data and reconfigures it to the algorythm produced by a mic you choose on their output list, but it's not perfect...and there are NO dynamic mics on the list if i remember correctly...so you can't use it no way, you'll just make your sound muddier than it originally is. And until you plan on doing something for real, there is no use in getting equipement...but if you're serious, you'll get a JOB (lmao@dice game) and invest in yourself, and do it right, cause what you got now, won't get you anywhere.
Aiigt then. I'm only 15 and cats around here hire at sixteen only so I'm stuck until july. Unless you wanna count lunch money

Woo Child
01-29-04, 06:15 PM
Aiigt then. I'm only 15 and cats around here hire at sixteen only so I'm stuck until july. Unless you wanna count lunch money



you got time...now you know what you need...get it when you can.

nicatime
02-04-04, 05:17 PM
aiight 2 more questions Woo.
1. You anything about Pocket studios? I've been looking at a tascam pocket studio 5 for a WHILE and asked a couple times on this board but no one seems to know about em. I saw dj enuff talkin about pocket studios in vibe magazines and he said the tascam was the best for 299 and you can hook it up to pro tools and somethin like that. You know bout em? Can't seem to find to many good reviews (from rappers at least)

2. The independent label route. I know you're a travelin rapper and prolly know alot about the game but you know about the independent route? I would like to get signed at a young age but if that doesn't happen then I how would someone go about starting their own record co? I'm lookin to make shyt blow up and right now, I can't find no Jay-Z Faq around :D. So
Holla @ Me

hiphopnerd
02-09-04, 06:22 PM
You def. need a 24bit soundcard. Somethin like a terratec dmx 6fire, soundblaster audigy ex platinum pro, etc.. This will improve your sound quality tremendously.

nicatime
02-10-04, 06:07 PM
aiigt. I'll invest in one. good lookin out on the brand

Merc_Cuban
02-16-04, 07:39 PM
delta 44 soundcard MAYNE

nicatime
02-17-04, 08:17 PM
delta 44 soundcard MAYNE
aiight. Its all on price for now

Woo Child
02-18-04, 02:13 AM
aiight 2 more questions Woo.
1. You anything about Pocket studios? I've been looking at a tascam pocket studio 5 for a WHILE and asked a couple times on this board but no one seems to know about em. I saw dj enuff talkin about pocket studios in vibe magazines and he said the tascam was the best for 299 and you can hook it up to pro tools and somethin like that. You know bout em? Can't seem to find to many good reviews (from rappers at least)

2. The independent label route. I know you're a travelin rapper and prolly know alot about the game but you know about the independent route? I would like to get signed at a young age but if that doesn't happen then I how would someone go about starting their own record co? I'm lookin to make shyt blow up and right now, I can't find no Jay-Z Faq around :D. So
Holla @ Me


pocket studios??? nope...dunno nuffin bout nuffin like that...prolly like a 4-track i.e. self-contained recording unit in a mixer....but i'm just guessin cause i don't feel the need to know about it...if it's anything like that, just get a cheap mixer to route your mic through to your PC...this allows alot of flexability with levels.


a long conversation comes out of the second question...if you wanna polly on it, get at me through my site.

Troy
02-19-04, 10:49 AM
hey... I have a Behringer B-2 Pro condenser mic with ULTRA VOICE PRO preamp...

why's it better to switch the directivity to "omnidirectional" as opposed to "cardioid"?

holla at me Woo

Woo Child
02-19-04, 03:07 PM
hey... I have a Behringer B-2 Pro condenser mic with ULTRA VOICE PRO preamp...

why's it better to switch the directivity to "omnidirectional" as opposed to "cardioid"?

holla at me Woo
it's not necessarily


an omni mic records sound from everywhere in the vocal field/booth...unless you have a completely sound proof booth, this would prove to be a very bad thing cause it picks up alot of natural reverb and echo that muddies your vocals and makes it hard to mix properly.

a cardiod is a unidirectional mic, meaning it really only records from the front, very little from the back, and similar on the sides...when you think about it, this is what you want your mic to do, cause you speak INTO the mic, not around it when you spit, so you want it to pic up JUST what you spit into it, not all the other noises that may be in the air.


so it depends.

edward scissorhands
02-20-04, 01:53 AM
just a few add-ons:

1) processor speed does not directly affect sound quality although it will make it seem that way. A track may come out sounding chopped or off beat because the system halts temporarily when the memory runs low, hence chopping the recording in progress, but i've never seen it add a hiss, hum or anything else.

2) as far as mics go, you can spend all the money you want on a mic, but to get that nice hot sound, you really need to invest in a compressor. that is what is really going to help you get a professional sound. your recording environment also has everything to do with how that vocal sounds, so you may want to invest in some auralex products to control the environment.

3) best peice of advice for mixxing on cool edit is to normalize all your vocals at 100%, that way they are closer together in their volume and takes alot of time and effort out of the mix. a good part of your mix though stems from the way the beat is mixxed too.

but iguess it all depends on how serious your trying to take it. i wouldnt recommend spending money on compressors and sound absorption if your just doing tracks to put out here or play for your guys. however if your ultimate goal is to make some change off all this, then buying that sh*t is basicly standard.

Merc_Cuban
02-28-04, 09:40 AM
just a few add-ons:

1) processor speed does not directly affect sound quality although it will make it seem that way. A track may come out sounding chopped or off beat because the system halts temporarily when the memory runs low, hence chopping the recording in progress, but i've never seen it add a hiss, hum or anything else.

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so you're telling me that if you process vocs on a comp with 128 megs of ram with a pent 2 processor it's gonna sound the same as if you have 300 plus megs on a pent four? I don't think so. Look at it this way. You have to MEET certain qualifications just to RUN certain programs which is why software manufacturers include the MINIMUM specs on the outside of the box so peeps won't buy something that they can't run on their system or will NOT run properly. if you're using cool edit pro I recommend at LEAST A PENT 3 WITH 256 MEGS of ram. There are "ways" to make it run with less ram but it won't mix down shyt NEAR as fast and it LOWERS ya quality level. cool Edit does that shyt anywaz. Everytime you process a wave in cool edit it LOSES some of its original quality which is why it's IMPORTANT to Have a VERY GOOD SETUP and GOOD SOUND before it EVER REACHES your comp so you can do AS LIL PROCESSING as possible in cool edit. For instance, If you do a noise reduction using cool edit on a top of the line comp then the quality will sound better than on an older comp with less ram because your RAM is used by your ENTIRE computer just TO RUN IT. so if you're just BARELY or slightly under the specs for cool edit then you're gonna have probs. And this is for ANY COMPUTER APPLICATION. If you're trying to play a game like madden and dno't meet the specs (ram, processer speed, video card, audio) then you're gonna have to go into the GAME OPTIONS and set all of the setting to "LOW" just to run the game which makes THE QUALITY AND GAMEPLAY Look like shyt. It's the same shyt with cool edit

Woo Child
02-29-04, 11:50 PM
so you're telling me that if you process vocs on a comp with 128 megs of ram with a pent 2 processor it's gonna sound the same as if you have 300 plus megs on a pent four? I don't think so. Look at it this way. You have to MEET certain qualifications just to RUN certain programs which is why software manufacturers include the MINIMUM specs on the outside of the box so peeps won't buy something that they can't run on their system or will NOT run properly. if you're using cool edit pro I recommend at LEAST A PENT 3 WITH 256 MEGS of ram. There are "ways" to make it run with less ram but it won't mix down shyt NEAR as fast and it LOWERS ya quality level. cool Edit does that shyt anywaz. Everytime you process a wave in cool edit it LOSES some of its original quality which is why it's IMPORTANT to Have a VERY GOOD SETUP and GOOD SOUND before it EVER REACHES your comp so you can do AS LIL PROCESSING as possible in cool edit. For instance, If you do a noise reduction using cool edit on a top of the line comp then the quality will sound better than on an older comp with less ram because your RAM is used by your ENTIRE computer just TO RUN IT. so if you're just BARELY or slightly under the specs for cool edit then you're gonna have probs. And this is for ANY COMPUTER APPLICATION. If you're trying to play a game like madden and dno't meet the specs (ram, processer speed, video card, audio) then you're gonna have to go into the GAME OPTIONS and set all of the setting to "LOW" just to run the game which makes THE QUALITY AND GAMEPLAY Look like shyt. It's the same shyt with cool edit
don't trip....it's okay to be wrong....let it go..

Merc_Cuban
03-02-04, 01:29 AM
lol it's not wrong. there's no way in hell you can convince me that your quality will be the same on a pent 2 comp as it is on a pent 3 or 4

Woo Child
03-02-04, 04:33 PM
lol it's not wrong. there's no way in hell you can convince me that your quality will be the same on a pent 2 comp as it is on a pent 3 or 4
my PC is a Pentium 2 caliber PC...let it go.

nicatime
04-03-04, 04:41 PM
delta 44 soundcard MAYNE
dang, I see one on ebay right now but the price is raisin.
Btw, Woo, you ever get my email?

Verb L Messiah
04-26-04, 10:12 PM
I got an ALienware with 3.2 GigaHertz...2 gigs of RAM...delta 1010 SOundcard and a sweet AKG MIC....it sounds good to me....so if that can help....take that info and run wit it