VIDEO: 50 Cent Doesn't Think Deeper Than Rap was a Flop [Archive]

StreetSmartz101

04-30-09, 11:45 PM

So, does this somehow validate or discredit anyone's opinion on the matter?

I don't think so, it's just another opinion if you ask me. Hell Lloyd Banks feel different about Ross selling 150k than the way 50 feels. That's just another opinion as well.

Blackthoughts

04-30-09, 11:46 PM

He cant say it was a flop because the last G-Unit album did those kinda numbers so if he says ross flopped he gotta admit T.O.S was a flop.Thats why he chose his words so carefully.

Yay Cutler

04-30-09, 11:47 PM

intresting munnkeyyyy moves

StreetSmartz101

04-30-09, 11:48 PM

He cant say it was a flop because the last G-Unit album did those kinda numbers so if he says ross flopped he gotta admit T.O.S was a flop.Thats why he chose his words so carefully.

Probably so, probably not...who knows. Both records IMO flopped. Good point though.

khrys_x

05-01-09, 12:02 AM

50's on film praising Ross for basically putting up the same numbers and going #1 last year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boylTwy4uU0

It wouldn't make any kind of sense to blatantly front and call his new one a flop now

Amero

05-01-09, 03:04 AM

He cant say it was a flop because the last G-Unit album did those kinda numbers so if he says ross flopped he gotta admit T.O.S was a flop.Thats why he chose his words so carefully.

exactly...

MegatronBomb!

05-01-09, 03:29 AM

Probably so, probably not...who knows. Both records IMO flopped. Good point though.

that would mean the last 2 albums ross put out flopped.
which they didnt.

BIGDENNIS10UK

05-01-09, 04:01 AM

i think 150,000 is a flop just cos all the **** he was talking, i bet ross think it flopped in private and his record company must be kinda mad.

on the other hand, jada did the same numbers and i think his wasn't a flop, just cos i didn't expect him to do sh1t and i bet jada thinks he done alright.

Its all in perspective.

how much did Reks sell, cos thats the best album i heard this year, i bet he done proper low numbers?

shame, cos its a great album.

whitedawg3000

05-01-09, 04:55 AM

i think 150,000 is a flop just cos all the **** he was talking, i bet ross think it flopped in private and his record company must be kinda mad.
on the other hand, jada did the same numbers and i think his wasn't a flop, just cos i didn't expect him to do sh1t and i bet jada thinks he done alright.
Its all in perspective.
how much did Reks sell, cos thats the best album i heard this year, i bet he done proper low numbers?
shame, cos its a great album.
150k 1st week sales is NOT a flop in this sales climate, you stupid fukkin munnkey!! Rauce had the #1 rap album in the country

Hiphop capo

05-01-09, 04:59 AM

150k 1st week sales is NOT a flop in this sales climate, you stupid fukkin munnkey!! Rauce had the #1 rap album in the country

If 50 sold 150k first week and got no.1 ...would you say flop ?

whitedawg3000

05-01-09, 05:04 AM

Hiphop capo

05-01-09, 05:10 AM

it's all relative

50 sold 1.1 mil his 1st week in 2005

and 700k 1st week in 2007

but Ross is a new artist for christ's sake,
he's only been out since early 2006,
so for him to have 2 gold albums
and 3
#1 rap albums on the charts is pretty damn good, IMO

do you despise Ross, just because it's what 50 tells his fans to do??

YOU NEVER ANSWERD...

would that be a flop for 50 ???? you know it would ,maybe not for ross ...but for 50 yeh ...reason why ..is cus 50 is on a much higher level .....
ross is happy with 150k ...50 would never be ..

weezy sold 1 mill first week ...kayne ...t.i all went gold first week this year ...so surly ricky could have pushed 250k 300k ...

yes he no.1 album ..but if t.o.s dropped that day instaed of rick ross ..that would have been no.1 ...It was very easy to get no.1 album that week

i despise anyone who is fake ..talks about selkling drugs ..when he wore a badge

eastside313

05-01-09, 07:15 AM

may not be a flop, but ross was tryin to become a boss get his own label deal and all that. IF u tryin to get the majors to cut u a check to put out your artists u better be selling more than 350K.

khrys_x

05-01-09, 08:24 AM

may not be a flop, but ross was tryin to become a boss get his own label deal and all that. IF u tryin to get the majors to cut u a check to put out your artists u better be selling more than 350K.
You mean a label deal like the one they already gave him after Trilla? Deeper Than Rap is the first release under his new label imprint through Def Jam, Maybach Muzik...and they already have the Triple C album coming under it

eastside313

05-01-09, 08:42 AM

You mean a label deal like the one they already gave him after Trilla? Deeper Than Rap is the first release under his new label imprint through Def Jam, Maybach Muzik...and they already have the Triple C album coming under it

Deeper than rap came out thru slip n slide buddy check the back of the cd. If Ross don't turn a profit u think def jam is gonna waste they time with a ccc album.

Turbulent

05-01-09, 08:46 AM

first, hat whole flopping thing depends on expectations. if your last album went 3 times platinum and you spend X amount for it to go 5 times platinum, and your album sells 800K then it's a flop.

if you sold 20k last time and you're an independant and the next album sells 200k than it's not a flop at all.

depends on circumstances and expectations.

second, i'm not getting a cut so i really don't give a fukk as long as the music is good.

MRc.

05-01-09, 08:46 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deeper_Than_Rap

lol, looks like the 50 stans been at his wiki page

EminemStan

05-01-09, 08:47 AM

Ross had a two million dollar budget. That means he gotta sell 278 000 units for def jam to recoup their money...anything after that is income...I don't think thats impossible for him.

sayagain

05-01-09, 08:49 AM

Ross had a two million dollar budget. That means he gotta sell 278 000 units for def jam to recoup their money...anything after that is income...I don't think thats impossible for him.
how did you come up with 278,000?

EminemStan

05-01-09, 08:52 AM

how did you come up with 278,000?

record companies in the US get a little bit over 7 dollars from retailers for every sold unit...

I used 7,2 dollars

2 000 000 / 7,2 = 277 778 units actually

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You can also put his single sales and future royalties into the picture wich would give Def Jam an higher income, but thats harder to calculate.

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If we put these numbers against Curtis wich had a worldwide budget of 27 million dollars, and sold what? 3 million copies world wide? Please correct me.

lets say they get 7,2 dollars on world wide sales (it's probably 6,5 in europe and 5 in asia)

3 000 000 x 7,2 = 21 600 000

so thats -5 400 000 dollars, quite big flop on Curtis for interscope

khrys_x

05-01-09, 09:08 AM

Deeper than rap came out thru slip n slide buddy check the back of the cd. If Ross don't turn a profit u think def jam is gonna waste they time with a ccc album.
It has Maybach Muzick on it too, does it not? It's listed on all the charts (billboard, radio and such...as Maybach Muzick/Slip N Slide/Def Jam)

They put out a CTE album...so i don't see why not...there won't be some huge push behind it like it's some huge major release, but they'll put it out...they knew how big of an artist Ross was when they gave him the deal...

Talyban

05-01-09, 09:10 AM

Now the euro wiggers have a problem on their hands, Curly, their second father, said out loud, that it wasn't a flop.

And the guy who interviewed him put him in a nice box too

"Is there such a thing as #1 flop"

Deal with it dumb wiggers. It's over. Even the guy that actually was beefin, said it.

Which makes you, internet typers, more irrelevant than Coolio right now.

Slang Wright

05-01-09, 09:21 AM

YOU NEVER ANSWERD...
would that be a flop for 50 ???? you know it would ,maybe not for ross ...but for 50 yeh ...reason why ..is cus 50 is on a much higher level .....
ross is happy with 150k ...50 would never be ..
weezy sold 1 mill first week ...kayne ...t.i all went gold first week this year ...so surly ricky could have pushed 250k 300k ...
yes he no.1 album ..but if t.o.s dropped that day instaed of rick ross ..that would have been no.1 ...It was very easy to get no.1 album that week
i despise anyone who is fake ..talks about selkling drugs ..when he wore a badge

My question is how do YOU know he never sold dope? Cause he had a badge? Shyt two cops down here robbed and murdered a n1gga.

ryda518

05-01-09, 09:48 AM

damn this is sad

even fif said it did not flop but ya stans are still in denial

50 SAID IT LMAO

i think now hes going to just hush down on the beef, until he has a new single high on the charts which may be in a month or 2

so when that happens watch the beefing start all over again

L. Deezy

05-01-09, 09:50 AM

basically he said the same thing I think all Ross supporters or unbiased mofos would say. #1 is #1...

and you've yet to hear any of them call the album garbage. You can't.. shyt is a certified banger

Mr swag

05-01-09, 10:00 AM

number 1 on the billborad charts is not a flop

sayagain

05-01-09, 11:00 AM

record companies in the US get a little bit over 7 dollars from retailers for every sold unit...

I used 7,2 dollars

2 000 000 / 7,2 = 277 778 units actually

----

You can also put his single sales and future royalties into the picture wich would give Def Jam an higher income, but thats harder to calculate.

----

If we put these numbers against Curtis wich had a worldwide budget of 27 million dollars, and sold what? 3 million copies world wide? Please correct me.

lets say they get 7,2 dollars on world wide sales (it's probably 6,5 in europe and 5 in asia)

3 000 000 x 7,2 = 21 600 000

so thats -5 400 000 dollars, quite big flop on Curtis for interscope ok now I see where you got the number from. Is your number for the Curtis budget from interviews?

eastside313

05-01-09, 11:02 AM

It has Maybach Muzick on it too, does it not? It's listed on all the charts (billboard, radio and such...as Maybach Muzick/Slip N Slide/Def Jam)

They put out a CTE album...so i don't see why not...there won't be some huge push behind it like it's some huge major release, but they'll put it out...they knew how big of an artist Ross was when they gave him the deal...

Yeah it has maybach on it too, but that means its still thru slip n slide.
Jeezy went double platinum and he executive produced cte and blood raw.

eastside313

05-01-09, 11:06 AM

record companies in the US get a little bit over 7 dollars from retailers for every sold unit...

I used 7,2 dollars

2 000 000 / 7,2 = 277 778 units actually

----

You can also put his single sales and future royalties into the picture wich would give Def Jam an higher income, but thats harder to calculate.

----

If we put these numbers against Curtis wich had a worldwide budget of 27 million dollars, and sold what? 3 million copies world wide? Please correct me.

lets say they get 7,2 dollars on world wide sales (it's probably 6,5 in europe and 5 in asia)

3 000 000 x 7,2 = 21 600 000

so thats -5 400 000 dollars, quite big flop on Curtis for interscope

:laugh:
I guess marketing is free and pressing up the disc and his tour support and all that is free huh

sporticus

05-01-09, 11:09 AM

50 sure loves making his stans jump through hoops like monkeys.

badgyal

05-01-09, 11:09 AM

My question is how do YOU know he never sold dope? Cause he had a badge? Shyt two cops down here robbed and murdered a n1gga.
Exactly. Anyone who completely believes any rapper is an idiot. Nas is one of my fav rappers, but he never sold aspirin so how's he escobar?

khrys_x

05-01-09, 11:29 AM

Yeah it has maybach on it too, but that means its still thru slip n slide.
Jeezy went double platinum and he executive produced cte and blood raw.

:huh:....

I'm confused...if you knew the new album is on Maybach and knew they already gave him the label deal...why'd you say he's trying to get a label deal that he already has? What does Slip N Slide have to do with what we're talking about?

My point bout CTE is that Def Jam knew USDA and Blood Raw weren't gonna do big numbers, just like they know Triple C's not...it's not like they're pouring millions into these lil side groups expecting them to go platinum...they knew the type of numbers Ross does when they gave him the label after Trilla

Ivan Boesky

05-01-09, 11:30 AM

50 sure loves making his stans jump through hoops like monkeys.

Yourself included.

sporticus

05-01-09, 11:36 AM

Yourself included.

Cute. The real question is why you feel hurt. Do you feel like a hoop-jumping money?

Iphoneman

05-01-09, 11:54 AM

Exactly. Anyone who completely believes any rapper is an idiot. Nas is one of my fav rappers, but he never sold aspirin so how's he escobar?

but as long as he's your favorite rapper than it's alright cuz it's just music you know

everyone on here has an opinion on what a flop is and what isnt a flop until you hear it from the horses mouth. No matter what, you have to give respect when respects due period.

NotoriousHNIC

05-01-09, 11:56 AM

The G-Unit stan Suicide watch is gonna be serious this weekend.

Slang Wright

05-01-09, 12:14 PM

Exactly. Anyone who completely believes any rapper is an idiot. Nas is one of my fav rappers, but he never sold aspirin so how's he escobar?

I mean when I first heard "Hustlin" I was like :dry: "this n1gga ain't got it like that". And that's what anyone with sense will know. I just enjoy or ignore music for what it is and how it sounds. I give 2 fuks about the actual artists. That's why I'm not going all out like some these kats. I swear you can damn near feel them pounding on the keyboard or furiously scanning the net trying to find points for their argument for their "heros". :laugh:

Ivan Boesky

05-01-09, 12:17 PM

Cute. The real question is why you feel hurt. Do you feel like a hoop-jumping money?
Naw relax dog I'm not your enemy. Theres bigger stans on here that will be happy to engage in battle with you...

sporticus

05-01-09, 12:20 PM

Naw relax dog I'm not your enemy. Theres bigger stans on here that will be happy to engage in battle with you...

Who wants to battle? I was just replying to what you said with a little humor. It's not that serious.

badgyal

05-01-09, 12:22 PM

I mean when I first heard "Hustlin" I was like :dry: "this n1gga ain't got it like that". And that's what anyone with sense will know. I just enjoy or ignore music for what it is and how it sounds. I give 2 fuks about the actual artists. That's why I'm not going all out like some these kats. I swear you can damn near feel them pounding on the keyboard or furiously scanning the net trying to find points for their argument for their "heros". :laugh:

:laugh::laugh: who really believed that rick ross knew noriega? Who really knew that nas broke, queensbridge project living ass, was a ghetto escobar? Its MUSIC! lol, every rapper over-exaggerates in their music. lol, everyone from miami knew that he was a small time hustler that made underground hits that was played on 97.7 bootleg radio station. lol