50 Is doing to Ross what Ali did to Foreman!

[black_tye_chi]

He's letting him exhaust himself out. First of all, outside of dropping some well produced tracks, Ross hasn't thrown any punches at 50 that hit with the magnitude of what 50 has done with his two baby moms. I'll even give 50 points for putting Khalid's mother at risk just to show how NOT gangsta these guys are. And whether you thinks it's lame or not, pimpin' curly has done what it needs to do. Then a week or two before deeper than rap drops, 50 stopped throwing any punches, meanwhile Ross is doing an interview and making a new video EVERYDAY going at 50. Really what he should've done is STOPPED talkin' about it, and just be like "Yo, I'm about the music, and n!ggaz is feelin' my tracks more than 50's, so as far as I'm concerned he's done! All you rappers can thank me!" The more he voluntarily brings it up, the more it hurts him, and he STILL doesn't realize it. I bet you when 50 steps back into the spotlight, he's gonna play down that beef in a way to make you think Ross is old news, and people are gonna feel him on it.

What gave 50 the advantage to not even have to address it for so long is 1. the video of gunplay laid out on the floor, which takes away from Ross having any credible association then 2. is that lame video of him taking a GUIDED tour of noreaga's (or escobar's, can't remember which one) crib. I'm not into the drug sh!t like that, but I know SOMEONE had to take over his empire and THAT'S where Ross should be filming that clip since he "knows pablo, noreaga, the REAL noreaga!"

Ross needs to REALLY go and read that 48 laws of power (or whatever it's called) book because he looks more like a monkey than anyone at this point.

And BTW, I hate 50, so don't play me for no stan. I'd much rather see them BOTH tear down each other's careers, but I'd rather have the REAL drug dealer succeed than someone who pretends to be a drug dealer, which sends a negative self-worth message (and for those that don't know what it means, I mean his message is if who you are isn't good enough, pretend to be someone your not so that people will "like" you for being that and not for being yourself).

[rapandhiphopfan]

He's letting him exhaust himself out. First of all, outside of dropping some well produced tracks, Ross hasn't thrown any punches at 50 that hit with the magnitude of what 50 has done with his two baby moms. I'll even give 50 points for putting Khalid's mother at risk just to show how NOT gangsta these guys are. And whether you thinks it's lame or not, pimpin' curly has done what it needs to do. Then a week or two before deeper than rap drops, 50 stopped throwing any punches, meanwhile Ross is doing an interview and making a new video EVERYDAY going at 50. Really what he should've done is STOPPED talkin' about it, and just be like "Yo, I'm about the music, and n!ggaz is feelin' my tracks more than 50's, so as far as I'm concerned he's done! All you rappers can thank me!" The more he voluntarily brings it up, the more it hurts him, and he STILL doesn't realize it. I bet you when 50 steps back into the spotlight, he's gonna play down that beef in a way to make you think Ross is old news, and people are gonna feel him on it.
What gave 50 the advantage to not even have to address it for so long is 1. the video of gunplay laid out on the floor, which takes away from Ross having any credible association then 2. is that lame video of him taking a GUIDED tour of noreaga's (or escobar's, can't remember which one) crib. I'm not into the drug sh!t like that, but I know SOMEONE had to take over his empire and THAT'S where Ross should be filming that clip since he "knows pablo, noreaga, the REAL noreaga!"
Ross needs to REALLY go and read that 48 laws of power (or whatever it's called) book because he looks more like a monkey than anyone at this point.
And BTW, I hate 50, so don't play me for no stan. I'd much rather see them BOTH tear down each other's careers, but I'd rather have the REAL drug dealer succeed than someone who pretends to be a drug dealer, which sends a negative self-worth message (and for those that don't know what it means, I mean his message is if who you are isn't good enough, pretend to be someone your not so that people will "like" you for being that and not for being yourself).


You know what, **** both of them as far I Concerned, I Could care less about those two clowns, especially 5-0 who has really ruined the reputation of this genre, I Don't give a **** that he was a drug dealer, he is a piece of **** and a piss poor rap artist just like ross, it makes me sick that many people today are still supporting those scums.
as much as I Hate ross, he spoke the truth on how 5-0 has really destroyed the once mecca of hip-hop and that's NY.

and 5-0 is still a ***** after what he did to khaled's mother, this is the same son of the ***** who deliberately recorded phone conversation of young buck, while buck spoke from the heart and for that, it is so wrong.
buck was crying on that tape about his problems and this clown recorded it for the whole world to see, unbelievable.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

real sh1t, especially about the self worth issue

[WesUp]

Whole beef is mad wack ;

Ross putting out more quality music. Rap n**gaz are phony, the majority of them. Who is 50 appealing to?? young white males in the suburbs mostly teenagers who is believing this n**ga, that's why he's been so close to Eminem lately making sure that base don't run away from him.

Who is Ross appealing to? Mostly Black Woman and his music appeals to more Black Men(13-25) than 50's but more Black Men respect 50's hustle more than Rosses but the Black Male fanbase doesn't support retail purchases like Black Woman.

Ross doesn't appeal to little Bobby and Jane in the suburbs like 50 would. That's a reason why Ross doesn't sell as big. Now if More Blacks came out out to the record stores like we did voting than the record industry would be completely different.

No one wins or loses here, battle is mad wack. Ross going debut #1 this week and 50 going do what he do

[Kuwka Atcha Ratcha]

nope 50 is wearing himself out if anything. 50 isnt making good music, 50 is more like tyson, he couldnt win by boxin so now he biting, doing something which has nothing to do with boxing to try and win.

[Dante Blaze]

Rope-a-Dope

[WesUp]

nope 50 is wearing himself out if anything. 50 isnt making good music, 50 is more like tyson, he couldnt win by boxin so now he biting, doing something which has nothing to do with boxing to try and win.


rinse lather repeat

[reddog271]

lol look for anyway to say 50 is winning. If it's about the music. 50 is getting his ass beat. Ross is doing what Sugar Ray did to Mavin Hagler. Embarrassing him so bad that he retired.

[rapandhiphopfan]

lol look for anyway to say 50 is winning. If it's about the music. 50 is getting his ass beat. Ross is doing what Sugar Ray did to Mavin Hagler. Embarrassing him so bad that he retired.


Co-Sign.

and bang em smurf, domination, game and buck are finally exposing this clown for what he truly is.

[black_tye_chi]

You know what, **** both of them as far I Concerned, I Could care less about those two clowns, especially 5-0 who has really ruined the reputation of this genre, I Don't give a **** that he was a drug dealer, he is a piece of **** and a piss poor rap artist just like ross, it makes me sick that many people today are still supporting those scums.
as much as I Hate ross, he spoke the truth on how 5-0 has really destroyed the once mecca of hip-hop and that's NY.
and 5-0 is still a ***** after what he did to khaled's mother, this is the same son of the ***** who deliberately recorded phone conversation of young buck, while buck spoke from the heart and for that, it is so wrong.
buck was crying on that tape about his problems and this clown recorded it for the whole world to see, unbelievable.

I hear you as far as "fvck both of them", but it's not like you can pretend they don't exist. 50 Cent didn't destroy hip-hop, the other artists that tried to go at him and did not prepare themselves for battle really dropped the ball. If anything, 50 made it easier for n!ggaz from the street to be accepted in the business world, which is really a great achievement, because it takes excuses away from street n!gggaz for why they don't go the straight and narrow.

As far as the Khaled mom thing goes, dude, it's on Khaled. Let's be real, your making MILLIONS of dollars, and you still got your mom working in a clothing store? that n!gga don't love his mother. If I ever became rich, my mother's retiring on a beach house and I'm paying ALL her bills and sh!t. giving her allowance and sh!t. If she's gonna be working, it's gonna be because she WANTS to.

I know where your coming from, you have this idealistic view of how the world SHOULD be, however you need to come down to earth and deal with it for what it is. Realistically, if BOTH of them fail, hip-hop loses.

[Still Datshyt]

Ross is winning the beef, even The New York Times said it, that's a terrible look for 50. Ross dropped the Mafia Music remix 2 weeks ago and 50 still hasn't responded. Ross' called his son out and 50 didn't respond. Now Ross just embarassing him with the daily videos and radio interviews, and 50 is is silent. 50 is done. He can't clown Ross in sellng 150k because he has always sold around that range, not to mention is like 60k more than what his latest offering 'T.O.S' sold. And music wise its embarassing to compare. Everybody likes deeper than rap and it's already a critically acclaimed album. And at the end of the day it's about music, everything else is irrelevant. 3 years from now are we going to be looking at Officer Rick Cartoons or will we be listening to Deeper Than Rap? I find it hilarious and ironic how 50 is getting Ja Ruled out the game.

[Wrecknation Ent.]

you bullsh1ttin yaself...
Ross makin bangers...
50 makin corny ass video skits...

Face the facts...

[Sunzoo aka LC]

I know where your coming from, you have this idealistic view of how the world SHOULD be, however you need to come down to earth and deal with it for what it is. Realistically, if BOTH of them fail, hip-hop loses.

fam, dude isn't exactly right in the head, not even a joke here, take that for what it's worth

[DizzeThaPusha]

You're dumb....Ross is doing what 50 was doing to Murder Inc....

Murder Inc stayed ignoring 50 while 50 kept throwing disses at them all the time with good music...Than he got backed by right people and Murder Inc faded....

Ross is dissing them all the time and making good music...He isn't exhausting anything...**** this reminds me of when The Game was dissing them all the time too and what happened? He killed G-unit...Than G-unit dissed Game when it was too late

[gluvnast31]

He's letting him exhaust himself out. First of all, outside of dropping some well produced tracks, Ross hasn't thrown any punches at 50 that hit with the magnitude of what 50 has done with his two baby moms. I'll even give 50 points for putting Khalid's mother at risk just to show how NOT gangsta these guys are. And whether you thinks it's lame or not, pimpin' curly has done what it needs to do. Then a week or two before deeper than rap drops, 50 stopped throwing any punches, meanwhile Ross is doing an interview and making a new video EVERYDAY going at 50. Really what he should've done is STOPPED talkin' about it, and just be like "Yo, I'm about the music, and n!ggaz is feelin' my tracks more than 50's, so as far as I'm concerned he's done! All you rappers can thank me!" The more he voluntarily brings it up, the more it hurts him, and he STILL doesn't realize it. I bet you when 50 steps back into the spotlight, he's gonna play down that beef in a way to make you think Ross is old news, and people are gonna feel him on it.
What gave 50 the advantage to not even have to address it for so long is 1. the video of gunplay laid out on the floor, which takes away from Ross having any credible association then 2. is that lame video of him taking a GUIDED tour of noreaga's (or escobar's, can't remember which one) crib. I'm not into the drug sh!t like that, but I know SOMEONE had to take over his empire and THAT'S where Ross should be filming that clip since he "knows pablo, noreaga, the REAL noreaga!"
Ross needs to REALLY go and read that 48 laws of power (or whatever it's called) book because he looks more like a monkey than anyone at this point.
And BTW, I hate 50, so don't play me for no stan. I'd much rather see them BOTH tear down each other's careers, but I'd rather have the REAL drug dealer succeed than someone who pretends to be a drug dealer, which sends a negative self-worth message (and for those that don't know what it means, I mean his message is if who you are isn't good enough, pretend to be someone your not so that people will "like" you for being that and not for being yourself).

you got that sh1t backwards, if anything ross was rope-a-doping 50 cent. when all of this 1st started, 50 cent went ALL OUT for a good two weeks straight! and ross just took in all that punishment knowing by the end of the day, 50 cent won't have anything left to offer, and ross pushed out his new sh1t and allow the music speak for itself.

whut more can 50 do NOW? the album's out, it's going to be number one in the country, and fif got nothing left to offer. whut he got the book? the graduation tape? nobody cares about that sh1t especially since ross already fessed up, wrote a song about being a C/O. it's too LATE for him to do anything now AND he has no buzz, and to make it worst BISD is on DETOX status...hell, even banks & yayo got released from interscope....everything's is crumbling around 50 cent on a music level whereas ross is enjoy the success of his OWN label to include getting triple C's signed and full def jam backing with the number one album in the country....

the sh1t's OVER!!! whutever 50 does, if he does anything else, it's too late.

[rapandhiphopfan]

You're dumb....Ross is doing what 50 was doing to Murder Inc....

Murder Inc stayed ignoring 50 while 50 kept throwing disses at them all the time with good music...Than he got backed by right people and Murder Inc faded....

Ross is dissing them all the time and making good music...He isn't exhausting anything...**** this reminds me of when The Game was dissing them all the time too and what happened? He killed G-unit...Than G-unit dissed Game when it was too late


Ross needs to destroy 5-0 for good so we can get him out of it's misery and 5-0 stole ja rule's style and murder inc's style as well and made things even worse.

[kaybe]

this is not WWE.Let's go back to the music.

[black_tye_chi]

lol look for anyway to say 50 is winning. If it's about the music. 50 is getting his ass beat. Ross is doing what Sugar Ray did to Mavin Hagler. Embarrassing him so bad that he retired.

Again, this is not a 50 stan thread, but there's a battle going on, and it needs to be analyzed for what it is. Please explain how 50 is losing? What has Ross done to embarrass him? none of his diss tracks really had any punch, they were just good verses on great beats, but not one of them was a "no vaseline" or "the b!tch in you." If you think 50 fell from the radar, then you know nothing about war. 50 is more than likely in the lab, which is the smart thing. He got the reactions he wanted from all the nonsense he did, the cartoons all the way to the pimpin' curly skit.

I realize hip-hop is music, but the culture is more than that. I realize they are both rappers, but this isn't a beef that's being fought in the studio, which is where Ross has it wrong.

Had Ross not did that gay unit cartoon (which makes the creator gay), had he NOT did that cake video, and had he addressed the beef in his interviews in this manner: "me and curly beef? ain't no beef really. He's just been throwing shots at mad dudes including myself, and I sent a warning shot back, but I'm about the music. not this cartoon skits nonsense and this pimpin' curly nonsense!" to show he's a bigger man, he would have been in a better position.

Yeah his album is gonna do alright the first week, but 50's still gonna outsell him.

A lot of ya'll need to read sun tzu's the art of war and the 48 laws of power and the book of 5 rings. ya'll don't even understand the science of war enough to HAVE a valid opinion.

[black_tye_chi]

this is not WWE.Let's go back to the music.

Unfortunately kaybe, it is. so if that's too much for you to handle, maybe you should go back to sleep and continue life in your dream world.

[-Dr. Trevis-]

I hope 50 hears all this 'he's losing' sh1t, if he does smh @ y'all thinkin he's just gonna go out like that. This is a nicca that forced his way into the industry

The main issue with 50 is he's not doing him, rather seeing "what works", if he can get out of this rut it's over.

[DizzeThaPusha]

Reason why 50 cent & G-unit is in a bad situation because he has cut so many ties....He lost his gangsta image when he left Bang Em SMurf for dead, than all of his beefs is mostly with people who are on top of the billboards, so he can't just hop on singles and create a buzz...Than he won't let G-unit collab with people he has beefs with, so they have no buzz because they are not featured on anybody albums, singles, mixtapes, etc....

[rapandhiphopfan]

Reason why 50 cent & G-unit is in a bad situation because he has cut so many ties....He lost his gangsta image when he left Bang Em SMurf for dead, than all of his beefs is mostly with people who are on top of the billboards, so he can't just hop on singles and create a buzz...Than he won't let G-unit collab with people he has beefs with, so they have no buzz because they are not featured on anybody albums, singles, mixtapes, etc....


5-0 and his crew are dictators, they never cared about the public but themselves.

[rapandhiphopfan]

Again, this is not a 50 stan thread, but there's a battle going on, and it needs to be analyzed for what it is. Please explain how 50 is losing? What has Ross done to embarrass him? none of his diss tracks really had any punch, they were just good verses on great beats, but not one of them was a "no vaseline" or "the b!tch in you." If you think 50 fell from the radar, then you know nothing about war. 50 is more than likely in the lab, which is the smart thing. He got the reactions he wanted from all the nonsense he did, the cartoons all the way to the pimpin' curly skit.
I realize hip-hop is music, but the culture is more than that. I realize they are both rappers, but this isn't a beef that's being fought in the studio, which is where Ross has it wrong.
Had Ross not did that gay unit cartoon (which makes the creator gay), had he NOT did that cake video, and had he addressed the beef in his interviews in this manner: "me and curly beef? ain't no beef really. He's just been throwing shots at mad dudes including myself, and I sent a warning shot back, but I'm about the music. not this cartoon skits nonsense and this pimpin' curly nonsense!" to show he's a bigger man, he would have been in a better position.
Yeah his album is gonna do alright the first week, but 50's still gonna outsell him.
A lot of ya'll need to read sun tzu's the art of war and the 48 laws of power and the book of 5 rings. ya'll don't even understand the science of war enough to HAVE a valid opinion.


Sure 5-0's gonna outsell at the charts, but musicwise ross is winning, because ross can overcome this.

[black_tye_chi]

Yup 50 is just sitting around doing nothing (Ali) while people are into Rick Ross product (Foreman). Deeper Than Rap getting more love than a Foreman grille.

SMH @ sunzoo jesus christ man is about all i can say to you at this point.

Is deeper than rap doing better than BISD? OF COURSE NOT because it's not out! Until it drops, nobody can say that 50 lost. Have you ever been in a contest? the person that goes first is ALWAYS at a disadvantage because the person that goes second can always rebut anything the first person did. That's where everyone has it twisted. Think of it like this. If your gonna freestyle battle, ALWAYS do what you can to go second. Even scientifically they proved the benefit. by the time BISD drops, no one's even gonna remember Ross' tracks. Out of everything he dropped from DTR, which song is gonna have the staying power of "In The Club"? Quote a HOT Ross verse! I realize for the current generation, this nonsense music of the new millenium is all you got, but once your not the current generation, you'll truly understand the LACK OF QUALITY of this music. it has no staying power. Nothing that came out in 2000 can invoke the feeling you get when you hear T.R.O.Y., and that's just reality. I'm not saying we need to recreate the golden years, I'm sayin' no one is carrying the torch from there, and all the music is mediocre to okay at best.

with that said, Only Built For Cuban Linx 2 Droppin' This Summer!

[DizzeThaPusha]

Thing is BISD hans't dropped yet, but the point is we all know it won't be better than Deepr Than Rap...that tells you how bad 50 has been musically as of late...Can you honestly think 50 can come with a dope album after that terrible curtis album?

[black_tye_chi]

I hope 50 hears all this 'he's losing' sh1t, if he does smh @ y'all thinkin he's just gonna go out like that. This is a nicca that forced his way into the industry

The main issue with 50 is he's not doing him, rather seeing "what works", if he can get out of this rut it's over.

finally somebody with sense enters the thread! I don't know WHY all my threads get plagued with lames that just seek to disagree without any valid reasoning.

The reason why 50 wasn't able to body kanye, is because kanye was ALWAYS himself. Ross' kink in his armor, lying about the CO thing, is making him weaker by the day. Nobody likes a liar. & people ESPECIALLY hate a narcissist who is a proven liar, which is what Ross is (and for the record, ALL recording artists are more narcissistic than the average person or else they wouldn't be recording artists, they'd be starving artists).

Believe you me, if anything, this beef can serve to get 50 back to his musical roots if you ask me.

[rapandhiphopfan]

Thing is BISD hans't dropped yet, but the point is we all know it won't be better than Deepr Than Rap...that tells you how bad 50 has been musically as of late...Can you honestly think 50 can come with a dope album after that terrible curtis album?


I Never liked 5-0 from the beginning, except many men.

[rapandhiphopfan]

finally somebody with sense enters the thread! I don't know WHY all my threads get plagued with lames that just seek to disagree without any valid reasoning.
The reason why 50 wasn't able to body kanye, is because kanye was ALWAYS himself. Ross' kink in his armor, lying about the CO thing, is making him weaker by the day. Nobody likes a liar. & people ESPECIALLY hate a narcissist who is a proven liar, which is what Ross is (and for the record, ALL recording artists are more narcissistic than the average person or else they wouldn't be recording artists, they'd be starving artists).
Believe you me, if anything, this beef can serve to get 50 back to his musical roots if you ask me.



Bull****, 5-0 will never go back to his musical roots, he has destroyed that, he's just as liar as rick ross, he has done more damage and is a bigger liar than ross
he is a snitch, he knew that after what he did to murder inc and all those other people he has hurt, nobody likes a snitch nor a liar.

[black_tye_chi]

Sure 5-0's gonna outsell at the charts, but musicwise ross is winning, because ross can overcome this.

please explain that logic in terms that are valid in the real world. statements like this reinforce the expression that common sense isn't so common. Your thought patterns are warped. you need to realize that just because something doesn't appeal to you, doesn't mean it's not any good. I don't like country music, but millions of other people do so I have no right to say country music isn't popular or good because obviously it's good or popular to someone. I can however retain my opinion that country music isn't my vibe. You keep looking at the world as if what you know is the end all and be all to what is, and life is gonna be rough for you.

[black_tye_chi]

he is a snitch, he knew that after what he did to murder inc and all those other people he has hurt, nobody likes a snitch nor a liar.

You sound like sarah palin accusing barack obama of being a muslim and a terrorist the way you bring up old sh!t that's irrelevant to the argument at hand.

[rapandhiphopfan]

You sound like sarah palin accusing barack obama of being a muslim and a terrorist the way you bring up old sh!t that's irrelevant to the argument at hand.


Because both palin and nobama are frauds.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

Is deeper than rap doing better than BISD? OF COURSE NOT because it's not out! Until it drops, nobody can say that 50 lost.

just like you had n1ggas calling DTR classic before it came out, you got people saying BSID is going to be this or that, before they have even heard 1/4th of a CD, ross doesn't win "musically" just because his CD came out first

and i'm sure n1ggas watching ali vs. forman thought forman had the advantage too, that's the whole point, unless ross goes on to do great numbers out of nowhere, his goal of using this as a come up isn't really a reality, just like forman, supposedly dominating ALI with heavy body blows while he sat and let the ropes absorb the shots ended...if you judging by diss songs (which is what you really should be calling it on, rather than albums that aren't even out yet) then none of ross' sh1t has been nice IMO

so where exactly does he win? because he "survived" a beef that he went and started?

[rapandhiphopfan]

You are trying to put this beef in a spot it's not at anymore. Your posts on a hip hop message board is not going to change the hip hop consensus which is the album is solid and its a #1 album. That is what you are trying to do here. You, Sunzoo, and anyone else trying to sway the people since DTR dropped is just not going to work. People really do like the album.

No one cares if BISD is out or not. And it has nothing to do with going first or second. 50 was suppose to "crush him" and yet he has a #1 album. Right now people are into Ross' music and no one is into 50s. Ross has a buzz and 50 doesn't. These are facts. Saying BISD is going to be better than DTR is an ASSUMPTION. You can't say you are going to crush someones career then when they get a #1 album say 'JUST WAIT' nahh...doesn't work like that.

And please are you really saying TROY and Cuban Linx in a sentence talking about classic music but have 'In Da Club' ? In Da Club has HOT lyrics now? Just because YOU wouldn't quote Ross doesn't mean he's un quotable either.


Co-Sign for real.

[black_tye_chi]

You are trying to put this beef in a spot it's not at anymore. Your posts on a hip hop message board is not going to change the hip hop consensus which is the album is solid and its a #1 album. That is what you are trying to do here. You, Sunzoo, and anyone else trying to sway the people since DTR dropped is just not going to work. People really do like the album.

No one cares if BISD is out or not. And it has nothing to do with going first or second. 50 was suppose to "crush him" and yet he has a #1 album. Right now people are into Ross' music and no one is into 50s. Ross has a buzz and 50 doesn't. These are facts. Saying BISD is going to be better than DTR is an ASSUMPTION. You can't say you are going to crush someones career then when they get a #1 album say 'JUST WAIT' nahh...doesn't work like that.

And please are you really saying TROY and Cuban Linx in a sentence talking about classic music but have 'In Da Club' ? In Da Club has HOT lyrics now? Just because YOU wouldn't quote Ross doesn't mean he's un quotable either.

Dude, this has nothing to do with me trying to affect anybody's sales. I bootleg ALL my sh!t now a days so I could care LESS how much anyone sells. It isn't and has NEVER been a concern of my who sells more. Hence I could care less about who likes the album or not.
I'm taking this beef for what it is and I'm speakin on that. These dudes are trying to clown each other and I'm sayin' 50 is gonna style on Ross, because Ross is falling into his trap. ROSS promotes the beef more than his whole album. If he does a 5 minute interview, more than 3 and a half minutes are spent speaking on the fued with curly.

We don't know if Ross has a number 1 album because the week hasn't been counted. any r&b artist can easily outsell him in this climate.

Now in a climate where bootlegging is HEAVY, 50 not having music out is a PLUS! The couple of singles he had out are irrelevant, but they've been irrelevant since his album got pushed back anyway. No one knows what his album will sound like now, and that's gonna build the buzz. Ross can do good the first week if he wants, then everyone's gonna be waiting to see what 50 comes with next, which will benefit HIM since his fan base is already as huge as it is (10 million people AT LEAST may possibly buy this album based on his track record).

N!ggaz forget 50 hasn't dropped a dud as far as sales are concerned, so you can enjoy Ross' little boost (he prolly sold more the first week in the past, but in today's climate) but it WILL be short lived, the same way wayne's buzz died what? a month or two after he dropped? Mrs. Officer never got the attention the other singles did.

Now realize, your trying to go at someone who's been on a debate team on more than one occassion. so if you're gonna refute something I said, literally quoting it, at LEAST have the decency to back it up with quotes. The only memorable Ross verse was hustlin', and it was pretty weak. anyone could've wrote that nursery rhyme sh!t. not that in the club was shakespeare or anything compared to it, but it's in a couple of classes above AT LEAST!

This beef is about who's clowning who more, and 50 clowned ross more...matter of fact, ross clowned himself on MORE than one occassion. with that gay-unit cartoon (which leads me to believe the creator himself is homo) and when he was eating a cake of HIMSELF, and he didn't even realize the head WASN'T edible. what a loser. :smh:

Only Built For Cuban Linx 2 coming this summer!

[rapandhiphopfan]

Dude, this has nothing to do with me trying to affect anybody's sales. I bootleg ALL my sh!t now a days so I could care LESS how much anyone sells. It isn't and has NEVER been a concern of my who sells more. Hence I could care less about who likes the album or not.
I'm taking this beef for what it is and I'm speakin on that. These dudes are trying to clown each other and I'm sayin' 50 is gonna style on Ross, because Ross is falling into his trap. ROSS promotes the beef more than his whole album. If he does a 5 minute interview, more than 3 and a half minutes are spent speaking on the fued with curly.
We don't know if Ross has a number 1 album because the week hasn't been counted. any r&b artist can easily outsell him in this climate.
Now in a climate where bootlegging is HEAVY, 50 not having music out is a PLUS! The couple of singles he had out are irrelevant, but they've been irrelevant since his album got pushed back anyway. No one knows what his album will sound like now, and that's gonna build the buzz. Ross can do good the first week if he wants, then everyone's gonna be waiting to see what 50 comes with next, which will benefit HIM since his fan base is already as huge as it is (10 million people AT LEAST may possibly buy this album based on his track record).
N!ggaz forget 50 hasn't dropped a dud as far as sales are concerned, so you can enjoy Ross' little boost (he prolly sold more the first week in the past, but in today's climate) but it WILL be short lived, the same way wayne's buzz died what? a month or two after he dropped? Mrs. Officer never got the attention the other singles did.
Now realize, your trying to go at someone who's been on a debate team on more than one occassion. so if you're gonna refute something I said, literally quoting it, at LEAST have the decency to back it up with quotes. The only memorable Ross verse was hustlin', and it was pretty weak. anyone could've wrote that nursery rhyme sh!t. not that in the club was shakespeare or anything compared to it, but it's in a couple of classes above AT LEAST!
This beef is about who's clowning who more, and 50 clowned ross more...matter of fact, ross clowned himself on MORE than one occassion. with that gay-unit cartoon (which leads me to believe the creator himself is homo) and when he was eating a cake of HIMSELF, and he didn't even realize the head WASN'T edible. what a loser. :smh:
Only Built For Cuban Linx 2 coming this summer!


Do I Care, 5-0 is a clown even more for doing more damage and cause more destruction in the mainstream for 6 years than all of the previous rappers in the genre combined.


Ross knows he won and 5-0 has lost the battle because most americans are sick of him and they want a new direction.

[black_tye_chi]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhE229ArHdGWYmbE0n

This is exactly what I'm talking about. this beef isn't about the music. it WOULD be if they were dropping the same day, like 50 did with Kanye. This is about reputation and credibility. Really, all you guys celebrating ross are celebrating someone that did an honest days work and is EMBARRASSED by it, then turns around and creates a fictitous past that got exposed and he denied it. He's got two baby moms that basically clowned his reputation, and he's got a hot head homey who likes getting knocked out (apparently) and everyone that has co-signed him (trick daddy) that isn't eating off of him even says he isn't the man he appears to be (as opposed to people like khaled who HAVE to vouch for him or risk losing their meal tickets). Really this guy is NO role model and the life he lives is nothing to celebrate. n1gga eating a wax head of himself. so lame. If your gonna eat a cake modelled after somebody, model the cake after your opponent, LOSER (I'm talking to ross for all you emo kids that misinterpret sh!t too easily).

[black_tye_chi]

Do I Care, 5-0 is a clown even more for doing more damage and cause more destruction in the mainstream for 6 years than all of the previous rappers in the genre combined.
Ross knows he won and 5-0 has lost the battle because most americans are sick of him and they want a new direction.

Dude if your trying to be a hero for the hip-hop culture, or even just the music, you wouldn't WANT any of these lames in the mainstream to succeed because to succeed in the mainstream, you have to compromise what your about period. gone are the days of pure artists like public enemy and de la soul that rapped about what they wanted, how they wanted. Fvck the mainstream, success in the mainstream is what made these people controlling the planet manipulate hip-hop into the detremental tool it is today. All these rappers need to get off the major, suck up their lazyness and do for self. create their own labels, build up their dough and get loans from the bank and build their own promotional staff with people who have the best interest of the culture and music in mind instead of taking rip off loans (sorry I mean advance money and terrible contracts) from the labels and leaving their minions to try and force nonsense down people's throats only to have people hurl it back up with no interest for digesting it again.

If your sick of 50's being successful it's because your a loser in life and resent the fact that with all his ill intentions, good things come his way while you self-righteously sit at home loathing your life and trying to argue with people talking sense to you online. Like it or not 50 Cent represents success and overcoming hardships, and you not appreciating him in one way or another means you can't relate to him which means he's everything your not.

and before you emotionally respond back, I suggest you take some time to REALLY think about what i've said before you even decide to respond. :yayo:

[gluvnast31]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhE229ArHdGWYmbE0n
This is exactly what I'm talking about. this beef isn't about the music. it WOULD be if they were dropping the same day, like 50 did with Kanye. This is about reputation and credibility. Really, all you guys celebrating ross are celebrating someone that did an honest days work and is EMBARRASSED by it, then turns around and creates a fictitous past that got exposed and he denied it. He's got two baby moms that basically clowned his reputation, and he's got a hot head homey who likes getting knocked out (apparently) and everyone that has co-signed him (trick daddy) that isn't eating off of him even says he isn't the man he appears to be (as opposed to people like khaled who HAVE to vouch for him or risk losing their meal tickets). Really this guy is NO role model and the life he lives is nothing to celebrate. n1gga eating a wax head of himself. so lame. If your gonna eat a cake modelled after somebody, model the cake after your opponent, LOSER (I'm talking to ross for all you emo kids that misinterpret sh!t too easily).

you can drink that kool-aid all you like, but both of them are merely recording artists to which BOTH had albums coming out, in fact, both on the sameday at one point. don't try to twist this spin. 50 cent explicitly said he was going to RUIN rick ross. said this at the VERY start, and failed, albiet gave one helluva effort, but still failed.

this had nothing to do with discrediting rick ross, when rick ross LONG been discredited for almost a full YEAR ago! this is about creating promotion from both sides of the time. the fact was that rick ross was more effective by providing dope music along the way whereas anything 50 cent tried to do gets completely ignore therefore in order to keep the attention he resorted with this skits and sh1t. he's so desparate now that these skits are going to be included with his upcoming album IF it ever going to be released. i still remember the LAST leaked song before interscope force him to shelve the album until further notice, and that was that r. kelly joint that got COMPLETELY ignored.

at the end of the day they're recording artists with albums coming out. 50 cent made it his mission to destruct rick ross' career and failed to do so. end of story

[rapandhiphopfan]

Dude if your trying to be a hero for the hip-hop culture, or even just the music, you wouldn't WANT any of these lames in the mainstream to succeed because to succeed in the mainstream, you have to compromise what your about period. gone are the days of pure artists like public enemy and de la soul that rapped about what they wanted, how they wanted. Fvck the mainstream, success in the mainstream is what made these people controlling the planet manipulate hip-hop into the detremental tool it is today. All these rappers need to get off the major, suck up their lazyness and do for self. create their own labels, build up their dough and get loans from the bank and build their own promotional staff with people who have the best interest of the culture and music in mind instead of taking rip off loans (sorry I mean advance money and terrible contracts) from the labels and leaving their minions to try and force nonsense down people's throats only to have people hurl it back up with no interest for digesting it again.
If your sick of 50's being successful it's because your a loser in life and resent the fact that with all his ill intentions, good things come his way while you self-righteously sit at home loathing your life and trying to argue with people talking sense to you online. Like it or not 50 Cent represents success and overcoming hardships, and you not appreciating him in one way or another means you can't relate to him which means he's everything your not.
and before you emotionally respond back, I suggest you take some time to REALLY think about what i've said before you even decide to respond. :yayo:


Who cares about success, I All I Care about is how 5-0 has ****ed over this american genre and because of him, we are no longer respected in the world, we are no longer rap's superpower, sure 50 has success, but he has also ruined american hip-hop to the fullest by focusing even more on money and beef than skills, talent and substance, which this clown has none of those.

[JunkYard AkbaR]

Either way, the Boss image has been tarnished. His name will be synonymous with being a C.O. for the remaining duration of his rap career. The clowning will never end.

LAUCE

[khrys_x]

50 fell back because he was throwing the fukking kitchen sink at Ross, and it didn't make any difference whatsoever...dude poured more energy into the situation with Ross, and came up with more elaborate ridiculous stunts than he did when he was battling a camp that had real beef with him...Murder Inc. beat him up and stabbed him, and he didn't go as hard at them as he did at some dude that finally threw a single bar at him after 50 had been dissing his camp and name dropping him for months...

While 50 was pulling his internet stunts claiming his was gonna end Ross' career all his lil internet followers were going ":ohmy: ROSS IS OVER...THERE'S NO WAY HE RECOVERS HE'S DONE blah blah blah"...and he we are with Ross' album getting rave reviews left and right and about to debut #1 on the charts as the biggest first week for a hip hop album so far this year...seemingly completely unscathed from an offensive that was supposed to "end his career"...the rope-a-dope analogy doen't fit at all...let's not pretend like 50 didn't try doing everything he could to knock Ross out, but just flat out failed...this is more like a fighter coming out throwing all heavy punches in the early rounds trying to score a knockout, only to have his opponent take all his biggest shots without getting damaged and continue to win rounds by simply outboxing the other guy (putting out quality music better than anything 50 has done in years)...

The reason why 50 is quiet now is because there's really nothing else for him to do that'd benefit him at all...the babymama sextape was supposed to be the knockout blow, but like I was telling everybody when it dropped, people wouldn't give a fukk about that sh!t...and it came and it went, basically forgotten about in a week...50 continuing on wouldn't do anything but bring more attention to Ross' album, and since it's a quality piece of work, more attention will do nothing but further point out the difference between the two musically...i bet his original plan was to fall back until the first week numbers came out, but now that the album is doing well that won't work except for on the stupid thisis50.com groupies who just accept everything 50 says...so after all the stunts, and the energy poured into taking Ross down...Ross has come out unscatched, and there's still no extra anticipation for BISD...but trust, 50 will go back on the offensive when he thinks it benefits him...like whenever they finally get enough buzz behind BISD to give it a release date and finally release it

[rapandhiphopfan]

Either way, the Boss image has been tarnished. His name will be synonymous with being a C.O. for the remaining duration of his rap career. The clowning will never end.

LAUCE

and yet you support a snitch and a liar who's just as bad as ross, game and buck ruined that clown's reputation as well, 5-0 has killed the respect for american hip-hop and it will never recover.

and last but not least

50 CENT SUCKS

[rapandhiphopfan]

50 fell back because he was throwing the fukking kitchen table at Ross, and it didn't make any difference whatsoever...dude poured more energy into the situation with Ross, and came up with more elaborate ridiculous stunts than he did when he was battling a camp that had real beef with him...Murder Inc. beat him up and stabbed him, and he didn't go as hard at them as he did at some dude that finally threw a single bar at him after 50 had been dissing his camp and name dropping him for months...

While 50 was pulling his internet stunts claiming his was gonna end Ross' career all his lil internet followers were going ":ohmy: ROSS IS OVER...THERE'S NO WAY HE RECOVERS HE'S DONE blah blah blah"...and he we are with Ross' album getting rave reviews left and right and about to debut #1 on the charts as the biggest first week for a hip hop album so far this year...seemingly completely unscatched from an offensive that was supposed to "end his career"...the rope-a-dope analogy doen't fit at all...let's not pretend like 50 didn't try doing everything he could to knock Ross out, but just flat out failed...this is more like a fighter coming out throwing all heavy punches in the early rounds trying to score a knockout, only to have his oppenent take all his biggest shots without taking damage and continue to win rounds by simply outboxing the other guy (putting out quality music better than anything 50 has done in years)...the reason why 50 is quiet now is because there's really nothing else for him to do that'd benifit him at all...the babymama sextape was supposed to be the knockout blow, but like I was telling everybody when it dropped, people wouldn't give a fukk about that sh!t...and it came and it went, basically forgotten about in a week...50 continuing on wouldn't do anything but bring more attention to Ross' album, and since it's a quality piece of work, more attention will do nothing but further point the difference between to the two musically...i bet his original plan was to fall back until the first week numbers came out, but now that the album is doing well that won't work except for on the stupid thisis50.com groupies who just accept everything 50 says...so after all the stunts, and the energy poured into taking Ross down...Ross has come out unscatched, and there's still no extra anticipation for BISD...


Co-Sign once again.

5-0 is just as done as rick ross, who cares about his money nor his bull****, he has killed this genre and it will never recover, until we the people have had enough.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

You, Sunzoo, and anyone else trying to sway the people since DTR dropped is just not going to work. People really do like the album.

i don't know what you mean, i gave the album 4 mics, it's a good album, and i ain't trying to convince nobody otherwise, but until 50 drops his album, i don't think you can base a win on some subjective bullsh1t as "better music", especially when the music ain't even out yet

No one cares if BISD is out or not. And it has nothing to do with going first or second. 50 was suppose to "crush him" and yet he has a #1 album. Right now people are into Ross' music and no one is into 50s. Ross has a buzz and 50 doesn't. These are facts. Saying BISD is going to be better than DTR is an ASSUMPTION. You can't say you are going to crush someones career then when they get a #1 album say 'JUST WAIT' nahh...doesn't work like that.

ross's biggest competition was asher roth if i'm not mistaken....does dude even have a video out yet? and i ain't saying that's a bad thing, but outselling asher roth's debut album isn't all that amazing

[houston911]

im honestly confused that everyone isnt in agreement that 50 is winning

dudes like young jeezy and gucci mane get rap respect because of how real they are, not how nice they are

50 cent = probably the realest n1gga in rap(mainstream) period. none of these other dudes have people to vouch for them like 50 does. plus yall love money so much and claim its all about the money, 50 can buy all these dudes catalogues/contracts/whatever

ross = fraud

if you show love to jeezy and gucci for being real, shouldnt ross be dismissed for being fake? deeper than rap is prolly the best cd of the year so far btw

[DizzeThaPusha]

50 fell back because he was throwing the fukking kitchen sink at Ross, and it didn't make any difference whatsoever...dude poured more energy into the situation with Ross, and came up with more elaborate ridiculous stunts than he did when he was battling a camp that had real beef with him...Murder Inc. beat him up and stabbed him, and he didn't go as hard at them as he did at some dude that finally threw a single bar at him after 50 had been dissing his camp and name dropping him for months...

While 50 was pulling his internet stunts claiming his was gonna end Ross' career all his lil internet followers were going ":ohmy: ROSS IS OVER...THERE'S NO WAY HE RECOVERS HE'S DONE blah blah blah"...and he we are with Ross' album getting rave reviews left and right and about to debut #1 on the charts as the biggest first week for a hip hop album so far this year...seemingly completely unscathed from an offensive that was supposed to "end his career"...the rope-a-dope analogy doen't fit at all...let's not pretend like 50 didn't try doing everything he could to knock Ross out, but just flat out failed...this is more like a fighter coming out throwing all heavy punches in the early rounds trying to score a knockout, only to have his opponent take all his biggest shots without getting damaged and continue to win rounds by simply outboxing the other guy (putting out quality music better than anything 50 has done in years)...

The reason why 50 is quiet now is because there's really nothing else for him to do that'd benefit him at all...the babymama sextape was supposed to be the knockout blow, but like I was telling everybody when it dropped, people wouldn't give a fukk about that sh!t...and it came and it went, basically forgotten about in a week...50 continuing on wouldn't do anything but bring more attention to Ross' album, and since it's a quality piece of work, more attention will do nothing but further point out the difference between the two musically...i bet his original plan was to fall back until the first week numbers came out, but now that the album is doing well that won't work except for on the stupid thisis50.com groupies who just accept everything 50 says...so after all the stunts, and the energy poured into taking Ross down...Ross has come out unscatched, and there's still no extra anticipation for BISD...but trust, 50 will go back on the offensive when he thinks it benefits him...like whenever they finally get enough buzz behind BISD to give it a release date and finally release it

basically...............

[ridgegeneral]

He's letting him exhaust himself out. First of all, outside of dropping some well produced tracks, Ross hasn't thrown any punches at 50 that hit with the magnitude of what 50 has done with his two baby moms. I'll even give 50 points for putting Khalid's mother at risk just to show how NOT gangsta these guys are. And whether you thinks it's lame or not, pimpin' curly has done what it needs to do. Then a week or two before deeper than rap drops, 50 stopped throwing any punches, meanwhile Ross is doing an interview and making a new video EVERYDAY going at 50. Really what he should've done is STOPPED talkin' about it, and just be like "Yo, I'm about the music, and n!ggaz is feelin' my tracks more than 50's, so as far as I'm concerned he's done! All you rappers can thank me!" The more he voluntarily brings it up, the more it hurts him, and he STILL doesn't realize it. I bet you when 50 steps back into the spotlight, he's gonna play down that beef in a way to make you think Ross is old news, and people are gonna feel him on it.
What gave 50 the advantage to not even have to address it for so long is 1. the video of gunplay laid out on the floor, which takes away from Ross having any credible association then 2. is that lame video of him taking a GUIDED tour of noreaga's (or escobar's, can't remember which one) crib. I'm not into the drug sh!t like that, but I know SOMEONE had to take over his empire and THAT'S where Ross should be filming that clip since he "knows pablo, noreaga, the REAL noreaga!"
Ross needs to REALLY go and read that 48 laws of power (or whatever it's called) book because he looks more like a monkey than anyone at this point.
And BTW, I hate 50, so don't play me for no stan. I'd much rather see them BOTH tear down each other's careers, but I'd rather have the REAL drug dealer succeed than someone who pretends to be a drug dealer, which sends a negative self-worth message (and for those that don't know what it means, I mean his message is if who you are isn't good enough, pretend to be someone your not so that people will "like" you for being that and not for being yourself).
powerful

[houston911]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhE229ArHdGWYmbE0n
This is exactly what I'm talking about. this beef isn't about the music. it WOULD be if they were dropping the same day, like 50 did with Kanye. This is about reputation and credibility. Really, all you guys celebrating ross are celebrating someone that did an honest days work and is EMBARRASSED by it, then turns around and creates a fictitous past that got exposed and he denied it. He's got two baby moms that basically clowned his reputation, and he's got a hot head homey who likes getting knocked out (apparently) and everyone that has co-signed him (trick daddy) that isn't eating off of him even says he isn't the man he appears to be (as opposed to people like khaled who HAVE to vouch for him or risk losing their meal tickets). Really this guy is NO role model and the life he lives is nothing to celebrate. n1gga eating a wax head of himself. so lame. If your gonna eat a cake modelled after somebody, model the cake after your opponent, LOSER (I'm talking to ross for all you emo kids that misinterpret sh!t too easily).

and i remember DJ KHALED dissing ross with trick daddy months ago

khaled was like "we dont fukk with the police, im the one that got rick ross driving maybachs"

lol, people forgot about that

[rapandhiphopfan]

im honestly confused that everyone isnt in agreement that 50 is winning
dudes like young jeezy and gucci mane get rap respect because of how real they are, not how nice they are
50 cent = probably the realest n1gga in rap(mainstream) period. none of these other dudes have people to vouch for them like 50 does. plus yall love money so much and claim its all about the money, 50 can buy all these dudes catalogues/contracts/whatever
ross = fraud
if you show love to jeezy and gucci for being real, shouldnt ross be dismissed for being fake? deeper than rap is prolly the best cd of the year so far btw


Bull****, 5-0 is a fake and he is not winning, he never cares for our people but himself and his crew just like ross
He is not the realest rapper in mainstream rap, nas is far more real than he will ever be, because he cares about the music, lyrics and skills, something this clown never did.

5-0 is a dictator and will be stopped soon, he has taken this genre into a disastrous way for generations to come and he will be stopped one day.
we did it with MC Hammer & Master P.

[rapandhiphopfan]

And 5-0 is a neoconservative uncle tom who has made our genre and this country into an even ****tier state just like bu**** and recently nobama