Can Rick Ross "Buster Douglas" 50 Cent?

[NotoriousHNIC]

I was rewatching this fight today and I thought the analogy of this fight can be compared to this battle. Like Douglas, Ross entered this battle as a Underdog that would get devoured quickly. Like Tyson, 50 has been seen as this beef machine that shut down people's careers and the track record speaks for itself.

Looking at how the beef is panning out..Ross is gaining momentum for his buzz and seems as of now winning some rounds. 50 may have used his power punch and knocked down Ross with that Baby Mama sex tape the same way Tyson knocked down Douglas in the 8th round. But it wasnt enough and Douglas ended up knocking Tyson out.

Even though Ross is becoming cocky, 50 may have become too overconfident just like Tyson by not putting out serious music to combat Ross the same way Tyson didnt take Buster serious by not training. Theres a possiblity that he may pay for it.

So we're entering the later rounds of the battle and if Ross's album do serious numbers then he could possibly pull off the biggest upset in hip hop.

Yall think Ross can pull it off?

[ATLien!!]

I've never really understood how anyone can even win this particular battle...

[Carl Sagan]

Game already did that in 05/06

Ross is more like Lenox Lewis finishing the job and making his ass retire now.

[Mr swag]

how much would ross have to sell his first week to be a success. i say over 150,000

[PurpleKushy]

Game already did that in 05/06

Ross is more like Lenox Lewis finishing the job and making his ass retire now.


:yes:

[PikeJr34]

Game already did that in 05/06

Ross is more like Lenox Lewis finishing the job and making his ass retire now.

:yayo:

[rapandhiphopfan]

Game already did that in 05/06

Ross is more like Lenox Lewis finishing the job and making his ass retire now.


Please ross, I Don't give a **** about him being a C.O.

End this 50/gay-unit nightmare so we can be free.

[Hall0w]

let me call yayo.

[badgyal]

My fukking post got deleted again!

[badgyal]

I basically wrote this:

if it was a few years ago then yes... Right now Ross is killing fif lyrically and production choice wise. 50 needs to stop his clown antics like pimpin curly.... Its silly. Keep it music.

I'm listening to hot 97 right now and they played 3 songs off of deeper then rap. i swear they haven't played no Em or 50.

[ATLien!!]

I mean, if I were to judge battles how I usually judge them, I'd say that Ross lost way back in February, but if I judge battles based on how others are judging them I would say that Ross is ahead, but this isn't nearly over yet. It's gonna spark back up by Wednesday.

[Liquid Mantis]

I don't understand (and I realize 50 started this trend) how sales, especially first week sales, determine "beef" winners.

If Ross sells 50K his first week, was it because no one sells in this climate, no one checks for his music like that, or because 50 beat him in a battle?

If he sells 500K his first week, is it cause he made a good album bought by the 490K people who didn't even know they were beefing, or did all the anti-50 people buy a copy just so they can make threads saying 50 lost and his career is over?

They both lost a lot of people's respect cause neither has done anything lyrically in this "rap beef".

[holycity]

naw man 50 is like the new modern day puff, 50 aint going nowhere:smh:

[badgyal]

I mean, if I were to judge battles how I usually judge them, I'd say that Ross lost way back in February, but if I judge battles based on how others are judging them I would say that Ross is ahead, but this isn't nearly over yet. It's gonna spark back up by Wednesday.

Not music wise. 50 is losing musically thats why he's focusing on outside shyt so much like Ross baby mama's, pimping curly, etc.

[Still Datshyt]

I don't understand (and I realize 50 started this trend) how sales, especially first week sales, determine "beef" winners.
If Ross sells 50K his first week, was it because no one sells in this climate, no one checks for his music like that, or because 50 beat him in a battle?
If he sells 500K his first week, is it cause he made a good album bought by the 490K people who didn't even know they were beefing, or did all the anti-50 people buy a copy just so they can make threads saying 50 lost and his career is over?
They both lost a lot of people's respect cause neither has done anything lyrically in this "rap beef".
Mafia Music Remix...which 50 has yet to respond to

[ATLien!!]

I don't understand (and I realize 50 started this trend) how sales, especially first week sales, determine "beef" winners.
If Ross sells 50K his first week, was it because no one sells in this climate, no one checks for his music like that, or because 50 beat him in a battle?
If he sells 500K his first week, is it cause he made a good album bought by the 490K people who didn't even know they were beefing, or did all the anti-50 people buy a copy just so they can make threads saying 50 lost and his career is over?
They both lost a lot of people's respect cause neither has done anything lyrically in this "rap beef".

And there you have it.

[ridgegeneral]

50 killed him and stopped caring

bad analogy

[Hall0w]

50 and yayo are waiting for the final numbers.

[badgyal]

50 killed him and stopped caring
bad analogy
How? his "diss records?" Real Talk: right now NYC is fukking with Ross! He gets more play in Fif's hometown.

[ATLien!!]

Not music wise. 50 is losing musically thats why he's focusing on outside shyt so much like Ross baby mama's, pimping curly, etc.

I'm talking about as far as diss tracks toward each other, that's what makes this battle one of the weirdest I've ever seen. No one actually says anything about the diss tracks from both parties. Especially stuff like that "Kiss My Pinky Ring" and "Push Em Over the Ledge" and "Tia Told Me".

[badgyal]

50 basically killed himself. He burned to many bridges in the game. He tries to call out every rapper not signed to interscope. LOL it backfired, this time Ross called him out and has been crushing him lyrically.

What kind of dumb ass says "Fukk jimmy iovine, i don't have no boss!" He ethered himself. He complained about being blackballed early on in the game, and then when he was on top he tried to do the same exact thing that he was against..

[atlbound]

it stopped being a battle a long time ago, its a beef. Its not a traditional Krs Vs. McShan rap battle.

this is much more cornier
nevertheless I rather listen to Rauce right about now, 50 needs a few months off to rebuild interest in his draw (if any)

[badgyal]

it stopped being a battle a long time ago, its a beef. Its not a traditional Krs Vs. McShan rap battle.
this is much more cornier
nevertheless I rather listen to Rauce right about now, 50 needs a few months off to rebuild interest in his draw (if any)
I agree and this is coming from a huge 50 Fan. Rauce stepped his game up each album. 50 has been on the decline.

[ridgegeneral]

How? his "diss records?" Real Talk: right now NYC is fukking with Ross! He gets more play in Fif's hometown.
sure he may have catchy songs, but 50 exposed him, broke down how much of a clown he is, exposed him as a liar that made up his life story, not as rich as he tries to make it seem, leaked his childs mother on tape prostituting herself, showed his friend triple c who was talking tough KO'd while ross leaves him on the street,forced him to finally admit he was a CO after blatantly lying on camera abotu it when asked


these things will be remembered LONG after his lil cd hype is over

[badgyal]

50 and yayo are waiting for the final numbers.
50 and yayo needs to make better music.

[ATLien!!]

I didn't judge the Jay Vs Nas battle based on whether Blueprint was better than Stillmatic.

[Higher Tech]

I've never really understood how anyone can even win this particular battle...
That's how I feel, whoever "wins" still loses.

[badgyal]

sure he may have catchy songs, but 50 exposed him, broke down how much of a clown he is, exposed him as a liar that made up his life story, not as rich as he tries to make it seem, leaked his childs mother on tape prostituting herself, showed his friend triple c who was talking tough KO'd while ross leaves him on the street
these things will be remembered after his lil cd hype is over

I'm in NYC, ATL, and MIA a lot. Seriously outside of the internet, no one is talking about that! Ross is getting major play on urban/hip hop/rnb stations. The same thing applies in the hottest clubs like mansion.

I get in and get up both flopped! Fif realizes music wise he's finished. His singles can't breakthough like before. He can't compete with Ross on that level. Thats why now he has to resort to clown antics.

[PrayIVReign365]

I really don't understand how People think Ross won. He didn't do anything special to beat 50. I find it pathetic on both their part. 50 has a classic Ross don't. They both suck now. Moving on

Really there has to be atleast one thread about Ricky everyday

[Liquid Mantis]

How? his "diss records?" Real Talk: right now NYC is fukking with Ross! He gets more play in Fif's hometown.

I think most people don't really care one way or the other about 50 or Ross, we just want some good music. Ross prolly gets more play everywhere, as he is about to drop an album.

Whoever said 50 is waiting for first week's numbers is sadly right. Like I said, Ross's sales will not reflect anything 50 has or hasn't done in the beef.

The Mafia Music remix, in my opinion, was nothing special, but it sadly is probably the best music in the beef. The people that ride w/50 no matter what refuse to give it any credit, and those that :spazout: 50 are gonna overhype it. Either way, no one can defend 50 not coming back with a track, unless as someone said, 50 truly doesn't care at all, which doesn't seem like the 50 we all know.

I used to get excited for a beef, you would get to hear some high caliber songs and 2 MC's give it their best. Now, we just wait for Ross to sell whatever he gonna sell and wait for the inevitable clown in a wig show.

Maybe, just maybe, Ross will say something slick about Em, and Em will come out with an actual good diss track, and all will be right with the world.

[Higher Tech]

sure he may have catchy songs, but 50 exposed him, broke down how much of a clown he is, exposed him as a liar that made up his life story, not as rich as he tries to make it seem, leaked his childs mother on tape prostituting herself, showed his friend triple c who was talking tough KO'd while ross leaves him on the street,forced him to finally admit he was a CO after blatantly lying on camera abotu it when asked
these things will be remembered LONG after his lil cd hype is over
1.. Ross was already "exposed" long before 50 brought it up
2.. His baby moms wasn't hookin' in that video, she said in the video that she really liked dude, it didn't seem like prostitutin'
3. Gunplay gettin knocked out was funny as hell!! No argument there
4. He had already admitted to it in the Don Diva, months before.

Edit: I don't know why 50's waiting for sales either... If Ross doesn't drop a straight brick, then what. What if he does Jada numbers, can he clown him for sales?

[HarlemAL82]

As far as the battle he 50 won(diss tracks). outside of the battles he won(exposing him as a fraud. puttin his BM's out there). we wont knw what his album sound like until its released.

[atlbound]

I didn't judge the Jay Vs Nas battle based on whether Blueprint was better than Stillmatic.
that was more of a battle IMo.

this shiit right here is a corny back&forth between two corny characters.
Im barely paying attention to the "beef". Like someone else said...whoever "wins" this still loses for participating.

[badgyal]

In Miami they don't care about Ross being a C.O. At first, they were like "Fukk that nicca." but now they don't care about that... his music is played everywhere.

[pop203]

nah, its more like sugar ray leonard vs. george foreman, lol. ironically, in this scenario rick ross is sugar ray. he's way more technically skilled but foreman is too overwhelming for him. sugar ray throws random jabs that have no effect whatsoever while george foreman throws 300 pound haymakers that keep knockin the more skilled fighter on his ass.

[sporticus]

Yall's criteria for winning beefs in 09 makes no sense.

[BradPiff]

how much would ross have to sell his first week to be a success. i say over 150,000
lol @ 150k

id put the mark at about 350k or more for it to be a success
150k would be average for officer ricky

[badgyal]

As far as the battle he 50 won(diss tracks). outside of the battles he won(exposing him as a fraud. puttin his BM's out there). we wont knw what his album sound like until its released.

lol, nobody talks about Rick Ross baby mamas outside the net b. lol real talk. The only thing that ppl talked about was Ross being a C.O. That died down a long time ago. nobody cares about it anymore outside the net.

[PrayIVReign365]

lmao sad thing is Get UP and I Get It in even though they flopped still charted higher than magnificent on billboard. So badgyal idk if your talking outta your a$$ or what because in NY he gets major play. In Miami ofcoarse he gets play there but other than that I have yet to hear any rick songs on Tv and a lil bit on the radio

[badgyal]

lmao sad thing is Get UP and I Get It in even though they flopped still charted higher than magnificent on billboard. So badgyal idk if your talking outta your a$$ or what because in NY he gets major play. In Miami ofcoarse he gets play there but other than that I have yet to hear any rick songs on Tv and a lil bit on the radio
Ross gets played more on the radio in both NYC and the south.

Datshyt posted the links many times proving you wrong.

[AGE_Arson]

niccas on sohh can be older than 16.

[PrayIVReign365]

Ross gets played more on the radio in both NYC and the south.
Datshyt posted the links many times proving you wrong.do you live in NY. I do and Hot97 is the main **** here and 50 is always on there. So no. The south *****s bump Swag Surfin... Nuff said you didn't answer me

I get it in without promotion, A video, or anything charted higher than magnificent on billboard. Get up too.

[HarlemAL82]

lol, nobody talks about Rick Ross baby mamas outside the net b. lol real talk. The only thing that ppl talked about was Ross being a C.O. That died down a long time ago. nobody cares about it anymore outside the net.

N1ggas talk about the bm situation. whether they still do is another story.

I dont even know why i replied to you. bored i guess.

[badgyal]

N1ggas talk about the bm situation. whether they still do is another story.
I dont even know why i replied to you. bored i guess.
lol nobody talks about that anymore.

[sporticus]

id put the mark at about 350k or more for it to be a success



haha you're such a lame. he has to nearly go gold in order for him to be successful? you 50 stans are delusional

[ATLien!!]

So what exactly is the criteria for judging this battle? Everyone seems to be judging it by something different.

[badgyal]

do you live in NY. I do and Hot97 is the main **** here and 50 is always on there. So no. The south *****s bump Swag Surfin... Nuff said you didn't answer me
I get it in without promotion, A video, or anything charted higher than magnificent on billboard. Get up too.

i live in the city. you joking right? they played nothing but ross on hot 97 and power 105 lately.

Jabba just played the song with Ross and Foxy from deeper then rap.

[pop203]

So what exactly is the criteria for judging this battle? Everyone seems to be judging it by something different.

this is a great question. i been wondering the same thing. i honestly don't even see how it's a contest, what has rick ross done? he has not done one thing. the only thing he's been able to maintain is him releasing good product but thats aint really got nothing to do with the beef/battle with 50 though. in terms of the beef he's been a punching bag from the jump, how is that deniable?

[sporticus]

lmao sad thing is Get UP and I Get It in even though they flopped still charted higher than magnificent on billboard.



You said that so confidently too lol.

Get Up hit #44 and dropped off after 2 weeks.

Magnificent is currently #65 and has been on the chart for almost two months. When his album drops, it will go higher. Is that the stat you really want to hold onto?

[badgyal]

So what exactly is the criteria for judging this battle? Everyone seems to be judging it by something different.
I'm judging it by who's releasing better music.

I'm a grown ass woman, i can care less about Rick Ross baby mama's. Thats TMZ/Mediatakeout Ho gossip shyt.

i get it in, get up, Shut ya bloodclat mouth, play this on the radio, etc was lackluster.

Deeper then Rap is tuff!