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Still Datshyt
04-19-09, 09:58 PM
No because the billboard shows how successful you are off that song. Radio play is ****. Your getting played with the same **** as Kiss me through the phone and Stankey leg. That gets a lot of play on the radio but it's not popular on the charts
Now your just being ignorant. How does the average person find out about songs? Through the radio. If a song is gettin alot of radio play alot more people are listening to it, and thats great promotion. These days a song can be number 1 on Billboard through itunes. Radio play is more important for promotion on billborad. People can hear songs on the radio they cant hear a position on Billboard. Its that simple.

pop203
04-19-09, 09:58 PM
you never heard flex play those records in a mix??? lol, you probably didn't hear it because it was only a few times!

yo, flex plays old group home records as well, lol, what is you talkin about? you back-peddelin right now. you was talkin before like they was pushing them songs like they was actually looking for rotation for them.

Badgyal
04-19-09, 09:59 PM
i don't believe you, lol @ "play this on the radio" being pushed by the label as a 50 single when the sh!t only has 1 verse and is completely not radio-friendly. stop ya bloodclot lyin. his verse on there aint even 12 bars long, is it? lol

Maybe not as an official single, but you see how flex plays cam, jada's, and jim's shyt from their albums? Those are not all OFFICIAL singles, but they do get a little play on the radio. I even heard them playing the ghostface killa song about rihana.

Badgyal
04-19-09, 10:00 PM
yo, flex plays old group home records as well, lol, what is you talkin about? you back-peddelin right now. you was talkin before like they was pushing them songs like they was actually looking for rotation for them.

dude my cousin is a dj... i know how it works. They test it out in a mix first. If the ppl like it, they call up in req it...Once that fails to happen, it WILL NOT go to regular rotation.

PrayIVReign365
04-19-09, 10:00 PM
Ross is a southern name

50 is worldwide. He's bigger than Ross here and will always be. All his albums multiplayinum

Ross Gold

Plus get up
Was his only real single. It had video and **** but didn't doo good. Let's see once 50 actually drops a real single and backs it up

HarlemAL82
04-19-09, 10:01 PM
you never heard flex play those records in a mix??? lol, you probably didn't hear it because it was only a few times!

No I heard it on the radio when flex played it. He played it more then a few times. He d1ck rode it like he always does to artist. You said they tried to work it when the song was only 1 verse. Why would they work a song with 1 verse?

Badgyal
04-19-09, 10:01 PM
Turns on radio hears pop champagne wonder what it did for jones album?
lol did we really expect JIM JONES to do numbers??? lmao!

pop203
04-19-09, 10:02 PM
dude my cousin is a dj... i know how it works. They test it out in a mix first. If the ppl like it, they call up in req it...Once that fails to happen, it WILL NOT go to regular rotation.

lol, you're just wrong. do you really think flex plays random Lox and G-Unit mixtape records/freestyles in hopes of breaking them and having them make the rotation? are you serious?

Badgyal
04-19-09, 10:03 PM
No I heard it on the radio when flex played it. He played it more then a few times. He d1ck rode it like he always does to artist. You said they tried to work it when the song was only 1 verse. Why would they work a song with 1 verse?
what about the ghostface killa song about rihanna? flex didn't play that for a lil minute?

Pray IV Reign,

Thats the problem. Fifty focuses too much on SALES and not quality.

PrayIVReign365
04-19-09, 10:03 PM
Now your just being ignorant. How does the average person find out about songs? Through the radio. If a song is gettin alot of radio play alot more people are listening to it, and thats great promotion. These days a song can be number 1 on Billboard through itunes. Radio play is more important for promotion on billborad. People can hear songs on the radio they cant hear a position on Billboard. Its that simple.
What east side said. Number on urban radios. Didn't end up doing ****. His album flopped. Ricky isn't even number 1 on radio so how is he supposed to sell. Show his fat and scare everyone into buying it. Or threeatening them with arrest of they don't buy it. That's the only way

eastside313
04-19-09, 10:04 PM
lol a song dont even crack the top 50 and its a hit these days.

Especially nowadays when they mix in downloads

ATLien!!
04-19-09, 10:04 PM
Maybe not as an official single, but you see how flex plays cam, jada's, and jim's shyt from their albums? Those are not all OFFICIAL singles, but they do get a little play on the radio. I even heard them playing the ghostface killa song about rihana.

None of those songs that were mentioned are from the album.

I think this thread is a prime example of why 50 and G-Unit just has to go away for awhile. I mean, you got people calling stuff like "Shut Ya Bloodclot Mouth" which is vintage 50 Cent wack. Stuff like Elephant in the Sand, Return of the Body Snatchers are vintage G-Unit but people sleep still.

Badgyal
04-19-09, 10:05 PM
lol, you're just wrong. do you really think flex plays random Lox and G-Unit mixtape records/freestyles in hopes of breaking them and having them make the rotation? are you serious?
not in hopes of turning them into a single. My point is, it wasn't hot! If it was hot he would have played them more often. i'm trying to show you that "the general public" aint checking for fif no more. They rather listen to Ross.

PrayIVReign365
04-19-09, 10:05 PM
what about the ghostface killa song about rihanna? flex didn't play that for a lil minute?
Pray IV Reign,
Thats the problem. Fifty focuses too much on SALES and not quality.your acting like Ross is keeping quiet. He is bragging all over interviews about how mxh money he got and how much of a boss he is. He is at the same level as 50 on that matter

eastside313
04-19-09, 10:06 PM
lol did we really expect JIM JONES to do numbers??? lmao!


turns on the white radio station hears flo rida.

pop203
04-19-09, 10:06 PM
i think ross is gonna do a little better than jadakiss his first week. i predict he'll do about 150k-200k just off of interest alone. but of course he'll only do about 50k the 2ndweek, then from there on it's over, he won't even go gold. mark my words.

Badgyal
04-19-09, 10:07 PM
None of those songs that were mentioned are from the album.
I think this thread is a prime example of why 50 and G-Unit just has to go away for awhile. I mean, you got people calling stuff like "Shut Ya Bloodclot Mouth" which is vintage 50 Cent wack. Stuff like Elephant in the Sand, Return of the Body Snatchers are vintage G-Unit but people sleep still.

I liked Elephant in the Sand and Return of the Body of Snatchers. No doubt fif comes hard on mixtapes.

His recent rick ross disses and "shut ya bloodclot mouth" was very formulated and lackluster IMO.

eastside313
04-19-09, 10:07 PM
Now your just being ignorant. How does the average person find out about songs? Through the radio. If a song is gettin alot of radio play alot more people are listening to it, and thats great promotion. These days a song can be number 1 on Billboard through itunes. Radio play is more important for promotion on billborad. People can hear songs on the radio they cant hear a position on Billboard. Its that simple.


having your song playin only on urban radio is like a stripper shakin her azz in front of broke niccas

Badgyal
04-19-09, 10:08 PM
turns on the white radio station hears flo rida.

Dude you prove my point! i been saying ppl like Em and Flo rida gets played on white pop/punk stations... lol, they just delete my posts and threads then i say that.

HarlemAL82
04-19-09, 10:08 PM
having your song playin only on urban radio is like a stripper shakin her azz in front of broke niccas
:laugh:
this n1gga

PrayIVReign365
04-19-09, 10:09 PM
having your song playin only on urban radio is like a stripper shakin her azz in front of broke niccas
Amen nicca

eastside313
04-19-09, 10:10 PM
Dude you prove my point! i been saying ppl like Em and Flo rida gets played on white pop/punk stations... lol, they just delete my posts and threads then i say that.

turns back on black station hears oj da juiceman and kid cudi.

Badgyal
04-19-09, 10:10 PM
having your song playin only on urban radio is like a stripper shakin her azz in front of broke niccas
Having your song played pop/punk/rock stations shows your fanbase! lol, thats what i been telling you dudes from day one. ppl like art barr tried to type essays to me, swearing that 50 and em receives play on urban/hip hop/rnb stations.

eastside313
04-19-09, 10:12 PM
:laugh:
this n1gga


They actin like people listening to urban radio stations buying albums. I hear OJ da jucieman everytime I turn on the radio and that nicca sold bout 987 albums.

kicknpush_08
04-19-09, 10:14 PM
50 cent is diddy status right now(which is a good thing) the n1gga should stick 2 touring & release a album like every five years. I have a feeling the rap game is gonna be 50 downfall & its kind of sad when your worth 100million+

eastside313
04-19-09, 10:14 PM
Having your song played pop/punk/rock stations shows your fanbase! lol, thats what i been telling you dudes from day one. ppl like art barr tried to type essays to me, swearing that 50 and em receives play on urban/hip hop/rnb stations.

pop radio stations take hits from urban sations. Like soujia noy songs been playing on urban radio for months now they starting to play on pop stations. Like blame it on the alcohol been playing on urban for months but now its the most added on pop stations.

HarlemAL82
04-19-09, 10:15 PM
They actin like people listening to urban radio stations buying albums. I hear OJ da jucieman everytime I turn on the radio and that nicca sold bout 987 albums.
Funny sh1t is if Ross sh1t played on the white stations n1ggas would be like look they even play it on there so it most be hot. But smfh at not being in the top 50 being a flop.

JhoonVill
04-19-09, 10:15 PM
They actin like people listening to urban radio stations buying albums. I hear OJ da jucieman everytime I turn on the radio and that nicca sold bout 987 albums.
I'm trying to figure out who exactly is going to buy ross's album. That guy is in for a rude awakening; I don't even think def jam is going to even bother buying that album.

HarlemAL82
04-19-09, 10:16 PM
50 cent is diddy status right now(which is a good thing) the n1gga should stick 2 touring & release a album like every five years. I have a feeling the rap game is gonna be 50 downfall & its kind of sad when your worth 100million+

I can somewhat I agree with that.

Still Datshyt
04-19-09, 10:16 PM
Funny sh1t is if Ross sh1t played on the white stations n1ggas would be like look they even play it on there so it most be hot. But smfh at not being in the top 50 being a flop.
50 gets played on white pop stations only...its not like he gettin played on both rap and pop...just pop...which is sad

ATLien!!
04-19-09, 10:17 PM
I liked Elephant in the Sand and Return of the Body of Snatchers. No doubt fif comes hard on mixtapes.
His recent rick ross disses and "shut ya bloodclot mouth" was very formulated and lackluster IMO.

And that's exactly what I'm talking about, everyone says that all his music sounds the same, but then they say that these songs over here were good, but those over there don't. If they truly all sound the same, wouldn't all of them be either good or wack?

"Shut Ya Bloodclot Mouth" is the best he's sounded since the G-Unit Radio 25 mixtape IMO. As far as his diss tracks go, what was the big difference between Backdown and Tia Told Me? To me there really is none.

On another note, one thing I have noticed throughout this thread is that no one has said anything about those diss tracks Rick did towards 50.

pop203
04-19-09, 10:18 PM
I'm trying to figure out who exactly is going to buy ross's album. That guy is in for a rude awakening; I don't even think def jam is going to even bother buying that album.

people bought jadakiss's album somehow so i don't see why yall think ross is gonna flop so hard. he's more popular than jadakiss currently, no? jadakiss sold 130 somethin just off the strength, only rap fans knew that album came, no crossover support whatsoever. ross name is bein mentioned alot lately thanks to 50, i can't see him selling less than jada first week.

The Real
04-19-09, 10:18 PM
Game already did that in 05/06

Ross is more like Lenox Lewis finishing the job and making his ass retire now.

:yes::yes::yes:
Good post

Still Datshyt
04-19-09, 10:19 PM
can we change the thread to Ross 'Buster Douglassed' 50 Cent

HarlemAL82
04-19-09, 10:20 PM
And that's exactly what I'm talking about, everyone says that all his music sounds the same, but then they say that these songs over here were good, but those over there don't. If they truly all sound the same, wouldn't all of them be either good or wack?
"Shut Ya Bloodclot Mouth" is the best he's sounded since the G-Unit Radio 25 mixtape IMO. As far as his diss tracks go, what was the big difference between Backdown and Tia Told Me? To me there really is none.
On another note, one thing I have noticed throughout this thread is that no one has said anything about those diss tracks Rick did towards 50.
Because those sh1ts were azz. especially the special delivery sh1t. I mean I never eva heard a n1gga f^ck up that beat. I mean look at what beans did with that sh1t.

Badgyal
04-19-09, 10:20 PM
50 gets played on white pop stations only...its not like he gettin played on both rap and pop...just pop...which is sad
:laugh: its sad but true!

I started a new poll ppl! lets hope my thread don't get deleted!

eastside313
04-19-09, 10:21 PM
And that's exactly what I'm talking about, everyone says that all his music sounds the same, but then they say that these songs over here were good, but those over there don't. If they truly all sound the same, wouldn't all of them be either good or wack?
"Shut Ya Bloodclot Mouth" is the best he's sounded since the G-Unit Radio 25 mixtape IMO. As far as his diss tracks go, what was the big difference between Backdown and Tia Told Me? To me there really is none.
On another note, one thing I have noticed throughout this thread is that no one has said anything about those diss tracks Rick did towards 50.


They dont compare that to the diss tracks 50 did, they compare ross album cuts.

eastside313
04-19-09, 10:22 PM
50 gets played on white pop stations only...its not like he gettin played on both rap and pop...just pop...which is sad

If that was true would it be a bad thing since thats who buy albums?

AGE_Arson
04-19-09, 10:22 PM
Having your song played pop/punk/rock stations shows your fanbase! lol, thats what i been telling you dudes from day one. ppl like art barr tried to type essays to me, swearing that 50 and em receives play on urban/hip hop/rnb stations.
since when was having white fans a bad thing tho?

pop203
04-19-09, 10:23 PM
50 cent is diddy status right now(which is a good thing) the n1gga should stick 2 touring & release a album like every five years. I have a feeling the rap game is gonna be 50 downfall & its kind of sad when your worth 100million+

50 needs to play into his image more. all this proper speaking, skinny face sh!t he on now is confusing to the people i think, that n!gga is way too laxed. n!gga eat some burgers and come back as the "f*ck all yah n!ggas, i'll shoot you" 50 Cent. the comedian 50 is hilarious but at some point you're gonna distract the fans with that sh!t, they aint buy 1 million and somethin of your albums in a week because of your comedy sketches. if i was him i'd start a random beef with suge knight and j prince just for no reason, just to build that "wowwww, he might get killed" aura again.

JhoonVill
04-19-09, 10:24 PM
people bought jadakiss's album somehow so i don't see why yall think ross is gonna flop so hard. he's more popular than jadakiss currently, no? jadakiss sold 130 somethin just off the strength, only rap fans knew that album came, no crossover support whatsoever. ross name is bein mentioned alot lately thanks to 50, i can't see him selling less than jada first week.
I never believe first week numbers especially by def jam artists. Btw jada has a fanbase, small but effective. What is a rick Ross fan? Let me check plies numbers.

Badgyal
04-19-09, 10:33 PM
50 needs to play into his image more. all this proper speaking, skinny face sh!t he on now is confusing to the people i think, that n!gga is way too laxed. n!gga eat some burgers and come back as the "f*ck all yah n!ggas, i'll shoot you" 50 Cent. the comedian 50 is hilarious but at some point you're gonna distract the fans with that sh!t, they aint buy 1 million and somethin of your albums in a week because of your comedy sketches. if i was him i'd start a random beef with suge knight and j prince just for no reason, just to build that "wowwww, he might get killed" aura again.
:laugh:

i agree. lol the skinny face, "actually, space, general public, and competitive environment" speechs actually backfires on him.

Art Barr
04-20-09, 06:58 AM
Yall's criteria for winning beefs in 09 makes no sense.



most of the criteria for gateway fans has made no sense,..for almost fifteen years now.

you shouldn't be surprised.

if anyone thinks that rickross is actually anywhere remotely close to holding his own in this battle, is gotta be stoopid as hell.

after the cookie monster video where he sonn'd himself,...then fiddy did the porno route on him like he was snoop dawg.
plus,..three classic disses from:

fiddy : TIA, i get in as the first of two baby mama video scores
banks
yayo : rick ross don't phuck'd up and brought the old yayo back,..on snitch'n...


there is no way in hell, you can say that rickross is winning this battle.

if you really paying attention,..and rooting on rickross something is wrong with you.

i mean the make up for the biggest supporter on this board for rick ross. is a incestous child molester for pete sake's...so you should know what time it is.....when it comes to rick ross supporters.

only the fake could even think dude is in this battle.

rick ross, only started this battle to get demoralized and take a loss. dude is the worst,......this should have happened when he dissed ti,...and then he wouldn't have a third album, for starters................

art barr

Nagra
04-20-09, 07:01 AM
Who would win in a fight, Art Barr or Datshyt?

I pick Art Barr. Someone make a thread, I can't do it.

Art Barr
04-20-09, 07:06 AM
Who would win in a fight, Art Barr or Datshyt?
I pick Art Barr. Someone make a thread, I can't do it.


first,..stop pic'n!!

next,..you don't fair fight a known child molester, and a person guilty of incestous sexual assault.


you try to kill him to vindicate his last victims.

his poor nephews,...and what is probably his sister's children.


art barr

Talyban
04-23-09, 08:51 AM
how much would ross have to sell his first week to be a success. i say over 150,000
:yes:

Rockyrulz7
04-23-09, 09:32 AM
how by selling 150k 1st week and 300k total?

if anythig he chris benoited himself :yes:

Rockyrulz7
04-23-09, 09:47 AM
most of the criteria for gateway fans has made no sense,..for almost fifteen years now.
you shouldn't be surprised.
if anyone thinks that rickross is actually anywhere remotely close to holding his own in this battle, is gotta be stoopid as hell.
after the cookie monster video where he sonn'd himself,...then fiddy did the porno route on him like he was snoop dawg.
plus,..three classic disses from:
fiddy : TIA, i get in as the first of two baby mama video scores
banks
yayo : rick ross don't phuck'd up and brought the old yayo back,..on snitch'n...
there is no way in hell, you can say that rickross is winning this battle.
if you really paying attention,..and rooting on rickross something is wrong with you.
i mean the make up for the biggest supporter on this board for rick ross. is a incestous child molester for pete sake's...so you should know what time it is.....when it comes to rick ross supporters.
only the fake could even think dude is in this battle.
rick ross, only started this battle to get demoralized and take a loss. dude is the worst,......this should have happened when he dissed ti,...and then he wouldn't have a third album, for starters................
art barr

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

datshyt stay getting sonned

NotoriousHNIC
04-23-09, 09:58 AM
first,..stop pic'n!!
next,..you don't fair fight a known child molester, and a person guilty of incestous sexual assault.
you try to kill him to vindicate his last victims.
his poor nephews,...and what is probably his sister's children.
art barr

Hold up.. That dude is a child molester? :blink:

BIGDENNIS10UK
04-23-09, 10:27 AM
Hold up.. That dude is a child molester? :blink:



someone fill me in as well, i never head about one of this sh1t and how do people on here stay getting exposed?



lol@his hero getting exposed at the same time as him