So police just denied Ross of any gang affiliation, how can ross even respond?

[Marquis.]

Rick Ross’ self-proclaimed drug kingpin and gang affiliated background took another hit today as more illuminating documents made the rounds on the Miami native’s criminal past.

The Smoking Gun, the same website that initially broke the story on Ross’ officer background last summer, disclosed a detailed deposition between Officer Rey Hernandez and Ross attorney Allan Zamren.

The heated discussion revolved around specifics of the rapper’s January 2008 arrest on marijuana and gun charges, along with inquiries into his alleged relationship with the infamous Carol City Cartel.

“Why is this case assigned to a gang task force?” Zamren demanded.

“Because your client claims affiliation with [the] Carol City Cartel and other known gang members,” Officer Hernandez replied, hinting at the various songs of Ross alluding to the alleged relationship.

“Do you have anything that shows you he was affiliated with any gang?” Zamren further questioned. “Or [of] yout own personal knowledge today?”

“No, I do not,” Hernandez stated.

While both parties in the transcript differ on whether Ross should face a judge for the charges, both agreed there was no evidence from reputed members of the Carol City Cartel that Ross had any ties to the organization.

The Smoking Gun, which argues the Miami emcee has become delusional with his rap persona, titled the six-page piece “Rick Ross’s Hood Dreams.”

Rick Ross and newfound rival 50 Cent remain locked in battle of one-upmanship as both seek to drum up support for their respective forthcoming albums; Deeper Than Rap (March 24) and Before I Self-Destruct(tentatively March 2009).

After initially being an unconventional battle waged mostly outside the booth, both stars have released diss records in the last few days: 50 Cent with “I’ll Be the Shooter,” and Ross with “Valley of Death.”

The two albums will be the first high-profile, mainstream Hip-Hop projects released this year.

At press time, neither Rick Ross nor his lawyer could be reach for comment.

Check the documents here

:smh:

[FloorGeneral]

Rick Ross’ self-proclaimed drug kingpin and gang affiliated background took another hit today as more illuminating documents made the rounds on the Miami native’s criminal past.

The Smoking Gun, the same website that initially broke the story on Ross’ officer background last summer, disclosed a detailed deposition between Officer Rey Hernandez and Ross attorney Allan Zamren.

The heated discussion revolved around specifics of the rapper’s January 2008 arrest on marijuana and gun charges, along with inquiries into his alleged relationship with the infamous Carol City Cartel.

“Why is this case assigned to a gang task force?” Zamren demanded.

“Because your client claims affiliation with [the] Carol City Cartel and other known gang members,” Officer Hernandez replied, hinting at the various songs of Ross alluding to the alleged relationship.

“Do you have anything that shows you he was affiliated with any gang?” Zamren further questioned. “Or [of] yout own personal knowledge today?”

“No, I do not,” Hernandez stated.

While both parties in the transcript differ on whether Ross should face a judge for the charges, both agreed there was no evidence from reputed members of the Carol City Cartel that Ross had any ties to the organization.

The Smoking Gun, which argues the Miami emcee has become delusional with his rap persona, titled the six-page piece “Rick Ross’s Hood Dreams.”

Rick Ross and newfound rival 50 Cent remain locked in battle of one-upmanship as both seek to drum up support for their respective forthcoming albums; Deeper Than Rap (March 24) and Before I Self-Destruct(tentatively March 2009).

After initially being an unconventional battle waged mostly outside the booth, both stars have released diss records in the last few days: 50 Cent with “I’ll Be the Shooter,” and Ross with “Valley of Death.”

The two albums will be the first high-profile, mainstream Hip-Hop projects released this year.

At press time, neither Rick Ross nor his lawyer could be reach for comment.

Check the documents here

:smh:

Haha, I think we've found the title for Ross's new album...

[Crack Obama]

Rick Loss

Somebody shoot this fat santa claus kimbo wanna-be scrub

[Marquis.]

Haha, I think we've found the title for Ross's new album...

ohy shyt. i didn't even see that ahhahaa

:laugh:
hood dreams is a perfect name.

[Black Pride]

Man I just feel bad for dude at this point, it's not even funny anymore

[Crack Obama]

Man I just feel bad for dude at this point, it's not even funny anymore

It's funny this fool can take more L's than Nas & Mobb Deep combined without even dropping more than 2 albums.

[NotoriousResurection]

def jam is caught in a sh!tty situation right now. this is like Boss part 2 for them. remember studio gangster boss that was signed to def jam waaaaaaaaaaaay back in the 90s, but was exposed as a frawd? same exact sh!t is happening to Rick Loss right now. history is just repeating itself.

[Marquis.]

aaaaaaand here are the documents.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0209091both1.gif
http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0209091both2.gif

the rest are here http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0209091both1.html

[ksyprod]

lol damn officer

[Black Pride]

def jam is caught in a sh!tty situation right now. this is like Boss part 2 for them. remember studio gangster boss that was signed to def jam waaaaaaaaaaaay back in the 90s, but was exposed as a frawd? same exact sh!t is happening to Rick Loss right now. history is just repeating itself.

Yea but Boss was a chick so noone really took her serious like that in the first place. LMAO@The irony in the name BOSS though

[West Coast Real Gs]

So one cop says hes affiliated and the other doesnt ? Amazing proof here

I got news for you net nerd soldiers

you cant CLAIM a GANG in a CITY and not be tied to it, it doesnt work like that in real life.

Rick Ross rather you want tobelive it or not has done many shows in carol city, and you cant just scream CCC and **** like that in live audiences without actually being affiliated (I know crazy logic I KNOW HUH)

man you kids just need to sign off this internet thing here and snap back to reality

[pop203]

the only way i see rick ross coming out of this is if he kills himself. think about it, if he does that then EVERYBODY is gonna put the onus on 50, they'll say he's the reason ross did it and he'll really really look like the devil, he'll look terrible.

[Black Pride]

So one cop says hes affiliated and the other doesnt ? Amazing proof here

I got news for you net nerd soldiers

you cant CLAIM a GANG in a CITY and not be tied to it, it doesnt work like that in real life.

Rick Ross rather you want tobelive it or not has done many shows in carol city, and you cant just scream CCC and **** like that in live audiences without actually being affiliated (I know crazy logic I KNOW HUH)

man you kids just need to sign off this internet thing here and snap back to reality

You can claim whatever you want when you're surrounded by security at all times.

[realcrusader]

Lause!

[West Coast Real Gs]

You can claim whatever you want when you're surrounded by security at all times.

when you get older than 16 you will realize this is never the case

[Black Pride]

when you get older than 16 you will realize this is never the case

Im 23 brah.

[West Coast Real Gs]

Im 23 brah.

ok let me repeat myself

when you finally go to a club for the first time youll see that security and bouncers dont protect anyone from anyone who really wants to get to them

so your whole security shiit is just a waste of typing man you can come up with a better excuse than that i hope

[KINGBLU]

So one cop says hes affiliated and the other doesnt ? Amazing proof here

I got news for you net nerd soldiers

you cant CLAIM a GANG in a CITY and not be tied to it, it doesnt work like that in real life.

Rick Ross rather you want tobelive it or not has done many shows in carol city, and you cant just scream CCC and **** like that in live audiences without actually being affiliated (I know crazy logic I KNOW HUH)

man you kids just need to sign off this internet thing here and snap back to reality

[JunkYard AkbaR]

Man I just feel bad for dude at this point, it's not even funny anymore

True, dude is just tryna make a living. I guess its time to move into mama's basement.

[Marquis.]

Im 23 brah.

dont mind him he's still bitter that the west coast fell off (http://i39.tinypic.com/r7191g.jpg)

[Black Pride]

ok let me repeat myself
when you finally go to a club for the first time youll see that security and bouncers dont protect anyone from anyone who really wants to get to them
so your whole security shiit is just a waste of typing man you can come up with a better excuse than that i hope

You're bout as delusional as Ricky is, fake reppin' a gang aint that serious down south to were n*ggas gonna try to rush you at your own concert about it, if anything im sure plenty of the actual members hung around dude just because he's famous. That's called being "food"

[PrinceOfSouthBeach]

This isn't funny anymore...I bet 50 had something to do with this. I'm starting to think this is a lot more serious than I initially thought, and I'm starting to feel a little bad for Ross. He's a fraud but, this is how the man eats.

[Crack Obama]

This isn't funny anymore...I bet 50 had something to do with this. I'm starting to think this is a lot more serious than I initially thought, and I'm starting to feel a little bad for Ross. He's a fraud but, this is how the man eats.

& man does he eat... every song he mentions silverware or some sort of food product...

[iLLusoYuN]

So one cop says hes affiliated and the other doesnt ? Amazing proof here

I got news for you net nerd soldiers

you cant CLAIM a GANG in a CITY and not be tied to it, it doesnt work like that in real life.

Rick Ross rather you want tobelive it or not has done many shows in carol city, and you cant just scream CCC and **** like that in live audiences without actually being affiliated (I know crazy logic I KNOW HUH)

man you kids just need to sign off this internet thing here and snap back to reality


*****.... please where on the west coast you from? You obvosy aint from Miami Carol City is about 8 blocks long 15 blocks wide its small as fukkk aint NOBODY doing shows there outside anywhere... if anything he did a few shows inside club rollexxx and Coco's that's it. stop acting like you know what goes on around Mia suck azz ni99a.

[PrinceOfSouthBeach]

*****.... please where on the west coast you from? You obvosy aint from Miami Carol City is about 8 blocks long 15 blocks wide its small as fukkk aint NOBODY doing shows there outside anywhere... if anything he did a few shows inside club rollexxx and Coco's that's it. stop acting like you know what goes on around Mia suck azz ni99a.

Really though. You from Carol City?

[Marquis.]

*****.... please where on the west coast you from? You obvosy aint from Miami Carol City is about 8 blocks long 15 blocks wide its small as fukkk aint NOBODY doing shows there outside anywhere... if anything he did a few shows inside club rollexxx and Coco's that's it. stop acting like you know what goes on around Mia suck azz ni99a.

*dead*

[MegatronBomb!]

you idiots seem to not understand that the police have no factual proof of him being affiliated.

that does not mean he doesnt have one.

[West Coast Real Gs]

*****.... please where on the west coast you from? You obvosy aint from Miami Carol City is about 8 blocks long 15 blocks wide its small as fukkk aint NOBODY doing shows there outside anywhere... if anything he did a few shows inside club rollexxx and Coco's that's it. stop acting like you know what goes on around Mia suck azz ni99a.

im from the part of the west where people claim shiit a lot smaller than that...

im from the bay, we claim BLOCKS and sides of towns, so its not hard for me to see that someone that claims a set is either affiliated or not, and if hes not, hes going to get exposed for it soon after he hits the scene, not when theirs a beef with the biggest rap fraud ever who says whatever (lies or truth) to expose someone


im from the 707 (north bay, east fairfield) that would be like me claiming San Francisco or Oakland, do you see how ridiculous that would be ? If he wasnt affiliated this shiit would of came out long before, im talking years, before this beef with 50. I love how things just come out when 50 cent beefs with someone. If shiit was true, SOMEONE WOULDA SAID EARLIER.

Its just like the baby mother incident. She never once said he never paid child support, until 50 cent recruits her. How convient. You people are fuucking dumb in the head, seriously.

[Crack Obama]

you idiots seem to not understand that the police have no factual proof of him being affiliated.

that does not mean he doesnt have one.


You seem to have a lot of faith in fake ass mark. :guilty:

[dj khaled]

ULTIMATE SUPER DUPER LAUCE!

[Sean77]

It's funny this fool can take more L's than Nas & Mobb Deep combined without even dropping more than 2 albums.
Why do heads always mention Nas and loss? He beat Jay out, he sold 7 plat albums in a row and two of them over double plat (Maybe three) and dude is one of the most respected dudes in the game ever as a lyricisit? I would say he won, Mobb lost on some ends, but never to the point of Cam or Rause Status, them dudes just stay losing.

[JunkYard AkbaR]

im from the part of the west where people claim shiit a lot smaller than that...

im from the bay, we claim BLOCKS and sides of towns, so its not hard for me to see that someone that claims a set is either affiliated or not, and if hes not, hes going to get exposed for it soon after he hits the scene, not when theirs a beef with the biggest rap fraud ever who says whatever (lies or truth) to expose someone


im from the 707 (north bay, east fairfield) that would be like me claiming San Francisco or Oakland, do you see how ridiculous that would be ? If he wasnt affiliated this shiit would of came out long before, im talking years, before this beef with 50. I love how things just come out when 50 cent beefs with someone. If shiit was true, SOMEONE WOULDA SAID EARLIER.

Its just like the baby mother incident. She never once said he never paid child support, until 50 cent recruits her. How convient. You people are fuucking dumb in the head, seriously.

So hes got homies from ccc that hold him down and that hes cool with so why would they care if hes claiming or not? Its not that complicated. All this shyt came about cause 50 exposed Ross, key word "EXPOSED". Or else most people wouldnt know about it. Same shyt wit baby mom, nobody knows who the fuk she is, shes got no voice to the public. 50 obviously allowed her to air out all of Loss's dirty laundry to the mainstream public.

[Crack Obama]

Why do heads always mention Nas and loss? He beat Jay out, he sold 7 plat albums in a row and two of them over double plat (Maybe three) and dude is one of the most respected dudes in the game ever as a lyricisit? I would say he won, Mobb lost on some ends, but never to the point of Cam or Rause Status, them dudes just stay losing.

Nas is a legend in my book... I was just f.ucking around with the comment..

You can subb whoever's alias you want... Ross is just embarrassing himself though... Mobb Deep took some L's but I still respect them for continuing to drop some raw hip hop & not falling back like Ja Rule & Camron did... I'm hoping Camron brings some heat on his next album...

Ross is just a sorry ass fat phoney f.uck though, I'm bout sick of hearing BOSS! too that just sounds like something a C.O. would say... babysitting a bunch of people in cages don't make you no f.ucking boss, he probably lies about his weight on f.ucking I.D. too :weirdo:

:laugh:

[West Coast Real Gs]

So hes got homies from ccc that hold him down and that hes cool with so why would they care if hes claiming or not? Its not that complicated. All this shyt came about cause 50 exposed Ross, key word "EXPOSED". Or else most people wouldnt know about it. Same shyt wit baby mom, nobody knows who the fuk she is, shes got no voice to the public. 50 obviously allowed her to air out all of Loss's dirty laundry to the mainstream public.


So hes got homies from ccc that hold him down and that hes cool with so why would they care if hes claiming or not?

that means hes affiliated you dumb fuuck.. do you people even read what the fuuck you type or argue for?

[MegatronBomb!]

You seem to have a lot of faith in fake ass mark. :guilty:

not really.
its just that people on sohh dont know how to read or comprehend.

Real West Coast G's made a serious point tho. how is dude gonna claim Carol City Correcti....Cartel and rep carol city and not really be down with them? dude woulda been aired out about that shiit already.

its like someone repping zoe pound and shouting them out all the time but never been apart of that shiit. it just dont add up.

[Crack Obama]

not really.
its just that people on sohh dont know how to read or comprehend.
Real West Coast G's made a serious point tho. how is dude gonna claim Carol City Correcti....Cartel and rep carol city and not really be down with them? dude woulda been aired out about that shiit already.
its like someone repping zoe pound and shouting them out all the time but never been apart of that shiit. it just dont add up.


Word.

[Sean77]

Nas is a legend in my book... I was just f.ucking around with the comment..

You can subb whoever's alias you want... Ross is just embarrassing himself though... Mobb Deep took some L's but I still respect them for continuing to drop some raw hip hop & not falling back like Ja Rule & Camron did... I'm hoping Camron brings some heat on his next album...

Ross is just a sorry ass fat phoney f.uck though, I'm bout sick of hearing BOSS! too that just sounds like something a C.O. would say... babysitting a bunch of people in cages don't make you no f.ucking boss, he probably lies about his weight on f.ucking I.D. too :weirdo:

:laugh:
Cam got L's but CAM IS GONNA bring that crack man! I am a HUGE Cam fan, but dude caught some L's for real. Mobb I am a huge fan of too, P sucks now pretty much outside of beats and some songs, but he caught alot too like you said. Ross is just corney to me though, a fake and I never liked his music at all so I could care less about duke here nor there. I feel ya man, peace.

[Crack Obama]

Cam got L's but CAM IS GONNA bring that crack man! I am a HUGE Cam fan, but dude caught some L's for real. Mobb I am a huge fan of too, P sucks now pretty much outside of beats and some songs, but he caught alot too like you said. Ross is just corney to me though, a fake and I never liked his music at all so I could care less about duke here nor there. I feel ya man, peace.


Word...

Camron dropped "I Hate My Job" & it's already on my playlist... :headphone

If I wanted to hear Mafia Music, I'd throw in some Kool G Rap... Ross ain't bringing nothing new to the table.. he did everyday I'm hustlin' & got a few dyck riders, it was a hot single but that last diss to 50 was some of the weakest sh1t I ever heard... the beat sounded like some old mp3.com artist sh1t.. :laugh:

[JunkYard AkbaR]

that means hes affiliated you dumb fuuck.. do you people even read what the fuuck you type or argue for?

Claiming and affiliated is two different things..u should know that "West Coast Real G" So he obviously dont claim ccc, hes just got some paper and local clout so them dudes dont even care. Loss is a joke. You 50 haters are gettin desperate.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

So one cop says hes affiliated and the other doesnt ? Amazing proof here

I got news for you net nerd soldiers

you cant CLAIM a GANG in a CITY and not be tied to it, it doesnt work like that in real life.

Rick Ross rather you want tobelive it or not has done many shows in carol city, and you cant just scream CCC and **** like that in live audiences without actually being affiliated (I know crazy logic I KNOW HUH)

man you kids just need to sign off this internet thing here and snap back to reality

it's called extortion, you fucckin moron :laugh:

[Crack Obama]

Claiming and affiliated is two different things..u should know that "West Coast Real G" So he obviously dont claim ccc, hes just got some paper and local clout so them dudes dont even care. Loss is a joke. You 50 haters are gettin desperate.


"I know Pablo, Noriega, the real Noriega
He owe me a hundred favors"


:smh:

[realcrusader]

its like someone repping zoe pound and shouting them out all the time but never been apart of that shiit. it just dont add up.



Yayo does but apparently he's not connected according to a lot of sohh

[Sean77]

Word...

Camron dropped "I Hate My Job" & it's already on my playlist... :headphone

If I wanted to hear Mafia Music, I'd throw in some Kool G Rap... Ross ain't bringing nothing new to the table.. he did everyday I'm hustlin' & got a few dyck riders, it was a hot single but that last diss to 50 was some of the weakest sh1t I ever heard... the beat sounded like some old mp3.com artist sh1t.. :laugh:
Ross is trash homey, liked the hustlin shyt but otherwise blah...... G rap like you said, look out for new Cam which will be UTTER heat if we know Cam right and so on. Ross is garbage and always was to me, I could care less about dude nor his career ending, peace.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

Yayo does but apparently he's not connected according to a lot of sohh

zoe pound is a hatian gang....yayo, is hatian


not really.
its just that people on sohh dont know how to read or comprehend.
Real West Coast G's made a serious point tho. how is dude gonna claim Carol City Correcti....Cartel and rep carol city and not really be down with them? dude woulda been aired out about that shiit already.
its like someone repping zoe pound and shouting them out all the time but never been apart of that shiit. it just dont add up.


so wayne being able to "suu wuuuu" all over the place is due to him really being a blood? or due to him being extorted/paying dues to fly them flags to some REAL n1ggas that would prolly jump him soon as them payments stop?

[JunkYard AkbaR]

"I know Pablo, Noriega, the real Noriega
He owe me a hundred favors"


:smh:

Favors for what? So you hooked up noriega wit extra scoops of mashed potatoes for lunch hour while he was locked up. SMH at him actin like it was some street shyt.

[realcrusader]

zoe pound is a hatian gang....yayo, is hatian



I know, nikkas stay denying that Yayo can possibly be connected tho. :hmm:

[MegatronBomb!]

zoe pound is a hatian gang....yayo, is hatian



so wayne being able to "suu wuuuu" all over the place is due to him really being a blood? or due to him being extorted/paying dues to fly them flags to some REAL n1ggas that would prolly jump him soon as them payments stop?

baron davis turned wayne out on the gangbang tip (n/h).
but wayne is backed by money over biitches and thats the only reason he can flag and get away with it. but then again, wayne has been called out by bloods and crips for not being legit.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

baron davis turned wayne out on the gangbang tip (n/h).
but wayne is backed by money over biitches and thats the only reason he can flag and get away with it. but then again, wayne has been called out by bloods and crips for not being legit.

real OG n1ggas don't respect that sh1t, it's these young mickey mouse club n1ggas that let that kinda sh1t slide for the money, they let these n1ggas be their mascotts for a percentage of they profits, but let that money stop coming.....lol

[MegatronBomb!]

real OG n1ggas don't respect that sh1t, it's these young mickey mouse club n1ggas that let that kinda sh1t slide for the money, they let these n1ggas be their mascotts for a percentage of they profits, but let that money stop coming.....lol

from what i hear. fruit town nikkas dont fukk with wayne.and thats one of the bigger blood hoods in compton. whats going with MOB and wayne falls into some grey area. these nikkas making tons of money offa him by backing him but at the same time this nikka aint really respected by them. lmao @ nikkas acting like wayne is gangsta ern or 4bent because he got a hood backing him.

[The Product]

So one cop says hes affiliated and the other doesnt ? Amazing proof here

I got news for you net nerd soldiers

you cant CLAIM a GANG in a CITY and not be tied to it, it doesnt work like that in real life.

Rick Ross rather you want tobelive it or not has done many shows in carol city, and you cant just scream CCC and **** like that in live audiences without actually being affiliated (I know crazy logic I KNOW HUH)

man you kids just need to sign off this internet thing here and snap back to reality


you aint smoked nothing in front of us yet:hmm:
i think this nicca 5-0:blink: