Official Supplement Review Thread

[Diggy_Dat_Niggy]

Post about supplements that you have used in this thread for other users to see. Write about the success or lack of, that you may have encountered with that supplement or supplements.

Please try to leave the name of the supplement, the company that makes it and the supplement type(fat burner, protein,etc.)

example:

Isolyze by Species Nutrition- (protein powder)
"thread body"

[Kronz]

Basic pre-workout mix special...

Animal Pump by Universal

Great pump and energy boost. In convenient pill form. Caffeine pill can be taken out when training at night or to lower caffeine tolerance. Great all-in-one product, has enough amount of creatine/l-arginine/caffeine so you don't have to stack it with any of those. I don't use it anymore but I would definitely keep a bottle in my car for times when I can't go home and take my regular supplements.

SuperPump250 by Gaspari Nutrition (orange flavor)

Mainly a NO & energy supplement. Good pump and energy boost, but I grew tolerant to it quick for some reason. It has creatine but the amount is really not enough to make any difference. I'm guessing Gaspari wants us to stack it with SizeOn. Seems to be one of the most popular pre-workout supplements out there. Btw I did not like the orange flavor. I hear raspberry lemonade is great.

NO-Xplode by BSN

I can't really rate this product fairly because it was the first pre-workout supplement I've ever tried, and I stacked it with PlasmaJet (another NO supplement) because I didn't know better and the nutrition store guy was an uneducated f@ggot. I do remember having great energy and pump (keep in mind, this was combined with PlasmaJet, a relatively hardcore NO supp) but the crash was terrible. I don't know how much creatine is in this but I'd assume it's not much since BSN recommends stacking this with Cellmass. And flavor wise, lemon lime was TERRIBLE. If I get a tub of this for free I might try it again and come up with more fair review but I don't think I'll ever buy this again.

White Flood by Controlled Labs

My NO supp of choice at the moment. Great energy boost and pump, with that beta-alanine tingle :blush: Lemonade flavor tastes like real lemonade, no bitter aftertaste or anything. Should be stacked with creatine (if you're looking for creatine as well) since it's an NO + energy supplement. Personally I stack it with Controlled Lab's Green MAGnitude.

[Kronz]

Post-workout

I personally believe that protein is protein, other than whey/cassein/etc and calories differences. So I'm just gonna review taste :p

CytoSport Muscle Milk
Chocolate Malt: Very good
Cookies & Creme: Bad
Strawberries & Creme: Terrible
Vanilla Creme: Good

CytoSport CytoGainer
Banana Creme: Delicious
Chocolate Malt: Very good
Chocolate Mint Shake: Good
Vanilla Shake: Very good
Cookies & Creme: Bad
Strawberries & Creme: Terrible

Allmax IsoKool
Lemon Iced Tea: So-so

[Kronz]

Controlled Labs Glycergrow
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/grow.jpg
An Advanced Stand-Alone Cell Volumization Breakthrough!

GlycerGrow is the most advanced standalone cell volumization breakthrough ever to reach the market. GlycerGrow combines a proprietary and synergistic blend of pharmaceutical grade ingredients to increase cell volume, aid the osmotic effects of creatine, and enhance the natural anabolic responses of weightlifting. When combined with a high protein/moderate carbohydrate diet, and a solid workout protocol, this product helps give the user increased gains in size, strength and vascularity.

During a cutting (calorie deficit/fat loss) phase, GlycerGrow can be stacked with Red Acid and Green Bulge to keep workout intensity levels high. GlycerGrow may also help minimize cramping. As an added bonus, GlycerGrow appears to have little impact on insulin and blood sugar levels. During a bulking (calorie surplus) phase, GlycerGrow can be stacked with Green Bulge and White Blood for extreme pumps and to optimize your lean gains. GlycerGrow may also enhance your extreme stretching protocol. During a bodybuilding or fitness-related contest preparation phase, GlycerGrow can be used to improve vascularity as well as maintain both workout intensity and electrolyte balance, which may help reach the muscle hardness, fullness, and density needed to win. During endurance training, GlycerGrow may improve hydration and stamina. During power-lifting training, GlycerGrow may improve explosiveness, recovery, and conditioning, helping to avoid over-training.

What exactly is Glycerol MonoStearate?

Glycerol occurs naturally in the body. When it is ingested as a supplement, it is absorbed and increases the concentration of the fluid in the blood and tissues. The concentration of these fluids is held constant by the body, so water consumed with glycerol is not excreted until the extra glycerol is either removed by the kidneys or broken down by the body. In laymen's terms, taking glycerol in supplemental form quickly improves hydration and the absorption of other supplements that are taken with it. The end result is faster delivery of nutrients when and where you need them the most and the prolonged "pump effect" during your workouts. Our Glycerol is esterified with stearic acid to form Glycerol MonoStearate. Glycerol MonoStearate is a colorless, odorless and sweet-tasting flaky powder that is hygroscopic (it absorbs water from the air, so keep this tightly closed at all times).

As far as the FDA is concerned, Glycerol MonoStearate is a fat and therefore results in calories, 9 per gram. But you have heard that saturated fat is bad for your cholesterol? True, in most cases, but not with stearic acid. Stearic acid is one of the only saturated fatty acids that actually have a neutral effect on serum cholesterol levels in human studies.

Key Attributes:

* Intracellular nutrient / electrolyte delivery
* Cell Volumization
* Vascularity
* Growth
* Recovery
* Intensity
* Improve thermoregulation and endurance

This thing is the truth... Skin-tearing pumps... Possibly the best non-hormonal supplement I've ever tried.

[Kronz]

APS Phenadrine

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/aps/phenadrine.jpg

Increase Intensity - Improve Focus - Clarity & Sense Of Well Being!

Phenadrine takes versatility and synergy to completely new levels. With a two-in-one punch, Phenadrine fuses advanced lipolytic stimulation and intense workout potentiation. No tolerance build up! No hit-and-miss! Phenadrine was engineered to work; to catapult your performance to a new league. Get ready for an intense workout.

Phenadrine delivers:

* Pre-Workout And Fat Burning Results
* Intense Workouts!
* Intense Focus, Concentration, Mental Clarity And Alertness
* Jitter-Free Energy With No Crashes
* Boost In Energy And Physical Performance
* Advanced Multiple Pathways For Rapid And Effective Fat-Loss
* Vascularity And Pump
* Enhanced Protein Synthesis And Elevated Testosterone Production

Phenadrine’s actives, including the novel and effective designer fat-loss compound, N-Methyl-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine HCL, collectively yield a new standard-setting lipolytic stimulant and intense workout initiator. The matrix consists of:

N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine
N-Acetyl-Tyrosine (NAT) is an acetylated form of the essential amino acid, L-Tyrosine. NAT is more water soluble, and is therefore, rapidly absorbed and bio-available. L-Tyrosine modulates that of neurotransmitter catecholamines such norepinephrine (noradrenaline), epinephrine (adrenaline) and dopamine, that are depleted by stress. So, NAT supplementation reduces the impact of stress and fatigue and elevates cognitive performance. The neurotransmitter-stimulation action of NAT further synchronizes with similar synergistic action from 1,3-Dimetylamylamine and caffeine (caffeine stimulates release of catecholamines and NAT modulates their synthesis), leading to enhanced thermogenesis and lipolysis.

Icariin
An epimedium flavonoid and testosterone mimetic, icariin is a natural anabolic that possesses a variety of unique actions in the body. It plays an important role in modulating nitric oxide levels by inhibiting an important enzyme, phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE-5), that breaks down another enzyme, 3’,5’-cyclic Guanosine Monophosphate (cGMP). cGMP signals the smooth muscles to relax, enhancing blood flow. So, PDE-5 inhibition prolongs the action of cGMP, making possible the flooding of skeletal muscle tissue with nutrient-rich blood and oxygen, leading to improved muscle contraction, intense pump and vascularity, as well as promoting an environment conducive to anabolism. This inhibition drives movement and promotes stronger muscle contractions, and a dense skeletal muscle structure.

Caffeine
Caffeine, a methylxanthine and popular stimulant, not only possesses lipolytic and appetite suppressant properties, but also helps to enhance endurance and extent the effect of other stimulants. As a CNS stimulant, caffeine works as an adenosine A1 and A2A receptor antagonist. This is significant because adenosine modulates the action of neurotransmitters such as dopamine, norepinephrine, and acetylcholine. By antagonizing adenosine, caffeine stimulates nerve-cell activity, creating enhanced alertness and clarity. Furthermore, caffeine inhibits the enzyme, phosphodiesterase (PDE), that breaks down cAMP. This PDE inhibition leads to sustained cAMP activity and boosting norepinephrine, thereby up-regulating thermogenesis and lipolysis. These pathways ensure caffeine traces a synergistic action with 1,3-Dimethylamylamine and other agents in Phenedrine, creating an optimally fuelled fat-burning furnace in your body.

1,3-Dimethylamylamine
Also known as Geranamine, 1,3-Dimethylamylamine is a derivative of geranium oil. As a potent fat burner, 1,3-Dimethylamylamine activates an enzyme, adenylate cyclase, that elevates cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) in cells, triggering fat metabolism. Furthermore, 1,3-Dimethylamylamine demonstrates potent central-nervous system (CNS) stimulation, leading to enhanced energy and physical performance, heightened focus and concentration. The user will experience a significant elevation in energy levels without the usual crash. 1,3-Dimethylamylamine is often combined with caffeine to further consolidate the heightened energy, intense concentration and focus.

N-Methyl-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine HCL
This is a truly unique and novel compound. Chances are you are familiar with the pathways of Beta-Phenylethylamine (PEA). You may also be familiar with N-Methyl-Beta-Phenylethylamine HCL. Yet, do not confuse N-Methyl-Beta-Phenylethylamine HCL with our much more potent agent, N-Methyl-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine HCL with several methyl groups that render it super stable and remorselessly effective. This novel agent works! That simple!

A remarkable compound, even in its pure form, Beta-Phenylethylamine (PEA), a catecholamine precursor and nutrient found in chocolate, is known to be a very clean stimulant with the remarkable ability to achieve central-nervous-system stimulation without producing nervousness or the jittery feeling associated with other stimulants. Like norepinephrine, the body’s most potent endogenous fat-burning hormone, PEA acts on alpha-receptors in the brain, triggering the release of the “feel-good” hormone, dopamine (3,4-dihydroxy-phenethylamine) in neural cells. PEA is also responsible for chocolate’s effect on mood, sense of satiety, reduced food cravings, mild euphoria, as well as increased metabolic rate (by modulating thyroid function). Also known as a neuromodulator, PEA promotes mental alertness, focus and concentration. By regulating catecholamines such as epinephrine (adrenaline) and norepinephrine (noradrenaline) that act on hormone-sensitive lipase, the rate-limiting enzyme in the mobilization of fatty tissue from storage cites, PEA elevates the metabolic rate, ultimately leading to increased fat burning. Unfortunately, PEA is rapidly metabolised in the body by type B monoamine oxidase and has a limited ability to cross the blood-brain barrier, thus preventing it from unleashing its full effects. The challenge was to obtain a form of PEA with a type B monoamine-oxidase inhibitor property. N-Methyl-Beta-Phenylethylamine HCL is an N-Methyl derivative of Beta-Phenylethylamine. This methylated form of PEA is dramatically more potent than pure PEA, and takes PEA’s CNS stimulation and fat-burning several notches higher. While we could have used this compound, we decided to aim still higher. Now enters N-Methyl-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine HCL. This novel and carefully engineered unique agent represents the most potent form of PEA ever developed. It is not an N-Methyl derivative of N-Methyl-Beta-Phenylethylamine HCL, rather an N-Methyl derivative of methylated Beta-Phenylethylamine HCL! It is like “double methylation”! Technically speaking, we astronomically boosted the pharmacokinetic value of PEA! This “double methylated” form unites the finest properties of PEA such as easily crossing the blood-brain barrier, intensifying fat-burning due to optimised beta-receptor agonism while demonstrating unprecedented stability to B monoamine oxidation, implying a longer-lasting and more intensive overall action. Our N-Methyl-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine HCL is a potent designer fat-loss agent. It elevates the potency of our synergistic blend! You will be convinced!

As you can see, Phenadrine is no regular “kitchen-sink” formula. Rather, it represents a new standard in “double-punch” products that effectively combine intense-workout potentiating compounds with advanced lipolytic and thermogenic agents to deliver the performance you are looking for, and that we are known for. Our unique matrix of selected agents is in potent per-dose-amounts that work every time. If you are looking for an effective double-punch product, your search stops at Phenadrine! Advanced Lipolytic Stimulant. Intense Workout Potentiator.

If you're looking for a pre-workout energy and focus boost, this is the shiit right here. I call this my "legal meth". You can pop it before workout, you can pop it before work, you can pop it before studying, this shiit is incredible.

[sn0man]

which flavor green mag you stack white flood with? I cant stand the flavor of both together although I love white flood. IMO though as far as a pump its just decent but for focus and intensity it's pretty good. for a straight up pump though plasmajet is un****witable. just to expensive IMO

btw you said best non hormonal supp so what would be your best hormonal supp? I ran epistane and that sh1t was pretty intense, I think in about 2 months Ill run some CEL H-Drol

[Diggy_Dat_Niggy]

which flavor green mag you stack white flood with? I cant stand the flavor of both together although I love white flood. IMO though as far as a pump its just decent but for focus and intensity it's pretty good. for a straight up pump though plasmajet is un****witable. just to expensive IMO

btw you said best non hormonal supp so what would be your best hormonal supp? I ran epistane and that sh1t was pretty intense, I think in about 2 months Ill run some CEL H-Drol

I used epistane once to get rid of gyno, followed by nolva. Im gyno prone, my antibiotics usually do me in after a week. I went to a doc and he was talking about surgery so I tried the epi and it worked. I had the 1st batch of epi when it came out and that shyt was under all kid of scrutiny for having wrong ingredients than labeled. I regret using it in a way due to the shadiness of IBE at the time, but I was ok after getting bloodwork. I took cycle suport.

I just got some again from my cipro antibiotic. I have scars that reopen at times from when I got shot back in 99. The docs kept giving me keflex which wasnt effective enough to kill the bacteria in my scars. Imagine almost 10 years of ongoing issues from b.s misdiagnosis .The doc said it should reverse but the last batch of gyno didnt. I now put cipro as an medicine Im allergic too. This time Ill get some Letro and Nolva if it doesnt go away rather than use the epi, which was stated as a gyno killer.

The one benefit of the epi cycle for me was I got lean as hell on 20mg and the gyno was gone within 2.5 weeks. Honestly if I was gonna do a cycle, Id rather just get some real stuff verified from a pharm, atleast its known whats in it 100% than play russian roulette with this stuff in the otc bottles. That methylated stuff is harsh on the liver too

[Kronz]

which flavor green mag you stack white flood with? I cant stand the flavor of both together although I love white flood. IMO though as far as a pump its just decent but for focus and intensity it's pretty good. for a straight up pump though plasmajet is un****witable. just to expensive IMO

Green apple. And yeah, they do taste pretty bad together.

btw you said best non hormonal supp so what would be your best hormonal supp? I ran epistane and that sh1t was pretty intense, I think in about 2 months Ill run some CEL H-Drol

I can't say, I don't have much experience with hormonal stuff. I did go through about 4 different test boosters and I actually took some PH/designer steroids when I first started working out (my dumb ass homie just gave em to me without warning :\) and obviously I didn't know if they were good or not cuz I wasn't using them right.

[WhiteMale]

So it looks like I'm copping some 1,4AD powder, 30 grams. Anybody have experience with it or 1,4AD's in general?

Snoman, how were your gains on epistane?

[nalej]

APS Phenadrine
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/aps/phenadrine.jpg
If you're looking for a pre-workout energy and focus boost, this is the shiit right here. I call this my "legal meth". You can pop it before workout, you can pop it before work, you can pop it before studying, this shiit is incredible.

might have to try this. I currently use NoExplode

[Kronz]

might have to try this. I currently use NoExplode

If you're using NO Xplode sorely for energy boost, Phenadrine will definitely be good enough, but if you want NO as well I suggest you get a stim-free NO supplement (such as White Blood by Controlled Labs) to stack.

[nalej]

If you're using NO Xplode sorely for energy boost, Phenadrine will definitely be good enough, but if you want NO as well I suggest you get a stim-free NO supplement (such as White Blood by Controlled Labs) to stack.

I use NO for energy boost so I can lift better. One side effect from it I've found is that it makes me stay up later at nights.

[WhiteMale]

I have a bottle of original sealed AX Superdrol, 90 caps that I NEED to get rid of if anybody wants it.

[Kronz]

PlasmaJet by Gaspari Nutrition
Best PURE nitric oxide supplement I've ever tried. You can literally feel the blood rushing everywhere, including down there. Crazy ass pump in the gym. Only downsides are that it's expensive ($40 for 1 month supply) and you can't be checking out them hoes too much or you will end up with a stiffy (imagine getting a boner during barbell shrugs :sadcam:).
Since it's a pure NO supplement and not some pre workout mix, you should stack this with some form of energy supplement. I take it with APS Phenadrine and the combo is awesome. This supplement is strictly for the pump and vasodilation.

[Cleansing]

EDIT

WRONG THREAD

[Cleansing]

I have a bunch of questions to ask, but i can't make threads for soem reason
At least help me out here, tell me ...
How do you use Whey Protein? It says to take it either before or after a workout, or in between meals. What does that mean? Like right after meals? or 30 minutes later? Seems like you can take it at anytime.

not trying to spam, i just need to know this soon.

Also
so just one serving a day? Or should i do it mornings after my work out, and then after dinner or something to curb food cravings?

[Kronz]

Cytonox by Cynogenix Laboratories

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cytogenix/hdr_cnox_header.jpg

I got a sample of this with my last bb.com purchase so I decided to try it out.

Dosage: The sample pack contains 3 servings. Direction said take one serving to assess tolerance, wait 30 minutes and take more as needed. So I just said fukk it and mixed the entire pack (3 servings) in 20 ounces of water. I took about 3/4 with 3 scoops of Controlled Labs GlycerGrow. Then I mixed the remaining 1/4 with 3 scoops of grape Xtend + water to drink during workout.

Taken with: GlycerGrow (PreWO), Xtend (Intra), Dark Matter (PostWO)

Workout: Chest
Flat bench press (bb): 10 x 225, 8 x 205, 7 x 205, 10 x 155 (explosive set)
Incline bench press (db): 8 x 75, 8 x 70, 8 x 70
Weighed dips (leaned): 15 x 45 (+172BW), 10 x 70 (+BW), 10 x 45 (+BW), 20 x BW
Cable crossover: 15 x 45, 12 x 50, 12 x 45, 12 x 45
Incline db flye: 12 x 25, 10 x 35, 10 x 25
Push up (explosive) x 40

Taste: 8/10 - I had the fruit punch flavor. Tasted like a regular fruit punch with a little bit of aftertaste. Definitely not a bad tasting supplement.

Energy: 6/10 - Gave me much less energy than my current PreWO supp White Flood by Controlled Labs. 3 servings contains about 390 mg of caffeine so I was expecting to get wired as fukk but did not hit me that hard.

Pumps: 10/10 - One of the best pumps I've ever gotten. My chest felt like it was gonna explode.

Edit: Took my regular supp today and did chest and got better pumps than last week. I think it's my test booster stack (A/X & Stoked) finally kicking in. Compared to the pumps I got today I'd say this was about 7/10.

Despite the awesome pumps (maybe not, see edit), I'm not sure if I'll ever buy this. I had to take 3 servings to get the effects, and the energy aspect really disappointed me. As you can see in my workout log my endurance wasn't all that great. And the cost ($37.99 for 40 servings on bb.com) is too much if 3 servings ($3/serving) are needed every time. It was a good sample to try but I probably wouldn't buy it because of the energy aspect and the cost.

[The Real]

I have a bunch of questions to ask, but i can't make threads for soem reason
At least help me out here, tell me ...
How do you use Whey Protein? It says to take it either before or after a workout, or in between meals. What does that mean? Like right after meals? or 30 minutes later? Seems like you can take it at anytime.
not trying to spam, i just need to know this soon.
Also
so just one serving a day? Or should i do it mornings after my work out, and then after dinner or something to curb food cravings?

The prime time to use it is right after a workout. Some people have another one before they go to bed or when they wake up. I personally have another one before I go to sleep. It really all depends on you.

On the topic of protein shakes I accidentally bought ON Cookies & Cream and it was the most disgusting thing I've ever had. I'm not looking forward to the next couple of weeks with this s*** :sad:.

[The Real]

I was watching bodybuilding videos on Youtube, and found this video of this dude rapping about whey protein. I found it pretty humorous, and I figured y'all might enjoy it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BkIWR_gKSE&feature=related

[2Quik4U]

I only use the stuff I get from GNC. The Muscle Amplifer works but i've thrown up from it before and it leaves a terrible burning sensation in your gut but it works. The Amplified Creatine 189 works real well though, especially when you combine it with the Whey Extreme 60. Gives you extra reps so you can get more done.

[<9-milli>]

I only use the stuff I get from GNC. The Muscle Amplifer works but i've thrown up from it before and it leaves a terrible burning sensation in your gut but it works. The Amplified Creatine 189 works real well though, especially when you combine it with the Whey Extreme 60. Gives you extra reps so you can get more done.
check the sugar alcohol on the label...always check for that so you won't :gag:

[ALCHEMY]

What are peoples opinions about Cell Mass? I just started taking it yesterday. I have actually read that is has a low dosage of creatine, but i like how it is a creatine/glutamine mix.


Thoughts?

[sn0man]

cell mass is overpriced, check into this bro IMO you can't beat it as a staple supp other than protein.

http://www.essentialstack.com/18222.html

they sell one for like 5 bucks more with joint support also.

as far as protein I was a fiend for that American Whey, but since their whole ****ty situation went down I switched to All the Whey, THEY THE TRUF!

low carbs, works perfect for my Keto Diet