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Charles_Lee_Ray
01-24-09, 10:08 AM
Peace to my lil homey Tommy "Pretty Money" Gunz for doing this beat for me a lil while ago. Just got a lil inspired by all this election shiiit. One of the illest nigahs "i know" when it come to samplin. One day i gotta find that Looney Tunes song I did with homeboy

Mo Betta Blues 09

http://www.zshare.net/audio/546009649a7a172c/

my bad put the wrong link the first time

Charles_Lee_Ray
01-24-09, 11:09 AM
my real nigahs gonna feel me on this shiiit. This a whole new year we gettin deeper and deeper into the future all that bs these fuhkas in the media be harpin on needs to just get ignored foreal. Now if yall will excuse me...

illstrick5
01-24-09, 12:24 PM
don't know what to say, kinda depressed me a little, real ****t though, glad to see u expanding, what large changes is obama talking about at the end? Peace and stay up salute

Charles_Lee_Ray
01-24-09, 12:57 PM
dont know if i was tryna depress anybody. just shiiit to think about. This the most ungrateful azz country ever! people dont appreciate shiiit. I sat and watched Jams for the first time in months and seen this video wit Nas and young jeezy...like, nigah...we just got a black president into office and you throwin him in the same sentence wit blue rims?? lol. Nas should know better than that. I just tried to touch on a few things..."white house derelicts sleep only a few feet from the lawn where the president greets a news team."

"your presidents black you thanked god that he entered, but will you stand by em when he needs your attention? For those thinkin legalize weed please read and get a better understandin of what bein black means."

i guess the game is just...blah.

illstrick5
01-24-09, 01:42 PM
Long read. Probably just depressed me, i don't know, I been hearing about how were suppose to be changing now that obamas president, I don't think its realistic though. What are the changes, how are people suppose to change their bad habits because obama got elected. I think its gonna be more of a mental hope for the kids, and power feeling, alot people to stuck in their ways, don't know how to direct the good energy and revitalization they got from the election and obama. Maybe i'm wrong but I don't think obamas enough of a voice for the street cats, hes not directing his energy towards them, and thats where the change is needed, because the music industry isn't gonna stop promoting negativity and ignorance, prison industrial complex isn't gonna change, systematic racism isn't gonna change, unless obama works that out. I shouldn't say obama because hes just one man but what other leaders are gonna help him out, where would they start. Jobs are down, so people have to do what they gotta, bred u got any plans or blueprint or direction to get a city or statewide voice heard where regular poor people can hear, and what would u tell them to do different than there doing now. Not trying to get at u, because I don't have a clue, rather than education and work, but jobs are down and companies aren't gonna stop raping people because obamas in office. No disrespect just wondering what u think. What do u mean will u stand when he needs your attention. Like in the army, or just for a cause that hes pushing/like stand behind him and push it.
Peace

illstrick5
01-24-09, 01:53 PM
about to leave, holla later peace stay up

Charles_Lee_Ray
01-24-09, 02:13 PM
I actually wrote a blog about what u was sayin...always on top of shiiit!
"A step in the right direction"
So I suppose with Obama being our new, 1ST African American president we are supposed to rejoice and feel like as a nation we accomplished something?? We have actually but will it last? Technically we could have had a black president a long time ago. Colin Powell was certainly more than qualified for the position. How we ended up with a half ass'd student/drunk crybaby who couldnt fulfill his obligation to the Air Guard is beyond me. But YOU voted him in I guess is the answer. The fact is...and this might be a shock to you all, racism will never end in America. Greed will never end in America. And hypocrisy will for damn sure never end in America. Imagine this for a moment. We are currently in Iraq (for god knows why), but THEY are sayin that we are tryin to end the hate, the feuding between sides and all in all bring a sense of democracy into their country. I wonder if Americans ever think about..."well damn since we're so open to help others, where was all these other countries at when blacks were gettin...hung from treeeeees, burned in front of entire towns with pictures taken, or hosed down in the streets with dogs attackin them. ****, and its not like the **** ever stopped! Cops are still smokin *****s like sunday bacon, FOR NO PARTICULAR REASON! What if another, more powerful country were to intervene? The basis behind this is, we are not perfect, we never will be. But we can get better. And not one "African American" president is gonna solve all of our problems. People are so god damn stupid sometimes. One man cant fix everything. HE is not the entire country. WE are the country. WE are the United States of America. WE have to want change. When Obama says we need to step up as Americans, he means that those with a lil suntin need to stop bein so goddamn selfish. If the world was going to end tomorrow and all we needed was 100,000,000 dollars to keep it runnin, what should stop Bill Gates from throwin a lil suntin in the pot??? For the most part I feel lil sorry for Obama havin to take on this responsiblity NOW after the WORST president ever just finished his term but this again, is another test for America. Will you stand by him while he attempts to fix ****, or will you flake the **** out like you did with the troops down in Iraq. Or the troops down in Vietnam? I'm not new to American ways. I know how **** pans out. Americans live for the moment. Not for the entire ride. If you make hot songs the fans will love the hell outa you but once you drop a dud they'll give up on you all together. Basic summary of how America usually does ****. I know this first hand cause I literally sat in Iraq from 05-06 watchin Anna Nicole Smith on the news instead of anything about me and my comrads well bein! So...
Get ya **** together folks. Its gonna be rough from what I understand. MAKE change, dont just wait for someone else to do it so if it fails you can have someone to place blame on. Get off the BULL****!!!


Yo good looks illstrick. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. The idea that "You're the only one commenting on this shiiit either makes you more socially aware or just a good nigah in general." But like I stated above this a selfish azz country. And like Nas said "everyone reaps what they sew thats how it goes." I dont expect nothin from Obama. Just like I didnt expect anything from any other president. I just hope he holds it down and makes some kinda change. I mean...even Darius Miles makes more than the President!

Charles_Lee_Ray
01-24-09, 03:01 PM
For you dummies who dont know where it came from...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asPpSQor8f4

Charles_Lee_Ray
01-24-09, 03:02 PM
Damn I miss Tommy Gunz...real talent right there

Charles_Lee_Ray
01-24-09, 03:07 PM
Troops in the thousands dead from bush wars…aim for the pres’ head and cart em off
Said a 4 star general part of his leg gone now he wheel chair stricken from a roadside bomb
MLK stands his speech you remember, or panther pack pled right to be aggressor, fat magazine the metal remain slender. Point 45 at multiple clan members.
Bask in the fastest life, we don’t hault where political high ranks promise but all talk
We caught more flack from rap I cant bark cause a good plan usually works when well thought.
Who do you believe, a god who cant reach, when the devils so close we can feel hells heat.
The last puzzle page means this page complete… but white house derelicts sleep only a few feet from the lawn where the president greets a news team. They pawns in the midst of kings and slut queens. I never been a dude whod except abuse…but united states gave bred mo better blues


Slave in a day not far from ones present. Royal rednecks and Africans made peasants. Stood in the fields and pleaded to be surrendered. Lynched by a hooded group in the towns center. Your presidents black you thank god that he entered. But will you stand by em when needs your attention? For those thinking legalize weed please read get a better understandin of what bein black means. Few stand tall unpaid failed attempts stayed clean when theres male aids deaths in high percent. I pray that obama can work wit less stress, but America demands but cant give no respect. Heads high take no shorts from those powers, we raped for our health and pay from those cowards. One intellect projects his great sense condense my wise thoughts and share with young kids. I never been the dude whod except abuse. But united states gave bred mo better blues

P.U.R.E.
01-24-09, 03:11 PM
this sh!t is ill as fukk

Charles_Lee_Ray
01-24-09, 08:44 PM
i fuhkin love this track! it all g. nigahs gonna hip to shiit one way or another.

illstrick5
01-24-09, 08:55 PM
Another long read,yo the songs ill, thoro why do u think racism and greed will never end. Real dudes like the panther party said its because capitalism is designed to exploit all, but especially minorities, and keep people down so the wealthy can rise, u agree or think different?

Thoro u know the analogy u made with bill gates contributing money, thats redistributing the wealth, why alot of people are thinking hes gonna pave the way for communism/socialism, not the same I know.

I feel what your talking about, if he donated it himself, but americas built on business and gates is a business man. He wouldn't do it except if there was a return a profit, and it was a good investment. Sad, I know but I guess thats what ur saying with the selfish thing, but if america collapses he can shoot anywhere and make money, he probably don't care.

How are suppose to hold obama down, this is where people are losing me, do yall mean just stand up for him with your voice when people try to **** on him, reason with them as to the situation he stepped into after bush or what?


I feel u on the turning on the troops thing, but I kinda think americans turned more on the idea of the war being false, and seeing the destruction and carnage we were doing, and what toppling the government had done, civil war. Plus having the troops in harms way in a situation that can't be won militarily, ideological war being made worse because of the killing, disrespect, cats like blackwater running wild, fuel for the extremist propaganda and hustle. Not hard to hate when fam is being oppressed, country bombed, invaded, people killed. My opinion and kinda one sided, but thats what the extremist are pushing anyway, and the fact that america has done this before is easy ammo for al queda types.

We definitely gotta step our own game up, but somebody is also shaping the minds of children thru school, tv, all medias, group think, computers, not really pushing education as much as entertainment that kinda brainwashes how people think, and shortens the hell outta attention spans nationwide.


Salute to u and yours for stepping in the face of death for what u believe.


What exactly would u suggest to help people in changing old habits to more productive ones or do u know where people can find the answer, because I honestly think people want to, but nobodys breaking down the changes that were being told to make, I know people need to save more, stop wasting, work harder, things like that, otherwise I"m confused young buck voice.


Appreciate the compliment. I don't expect anything monumental from obama either just hope hes a good president that does what he says, works with both sides brightest and wise ones to bring the best most effective plans into action, isn't arrogant thinking his ideas are always the best, and doesn't go along with the systematic ****ing, extorting, and raping of americans, especially african americans, but all peoples. That would be ill. Haha, obama got bread though, u seen what he did on the campaign, natural born hustler. Peace stay up

Charles_Lee_Ray
01-25-09, 04:39 AM
Well, Im awake and wanna continue this discussion cause i actually like the fact that your adult enough to comment on certain shiiit invlovin what I said.

Im a fairly simple dude. Racism wont end simply because It just "wont!" Its funny how some white folks are so upset about african americans bein in this country but always seem to forget that, "hey, noone ever asked to be here anyway!" Aint too complicated. The world keep turnin. There will be casualties in result of ignorance. It is what it is.

Far as Bill Gates. You would think that when you get to a certain level in your life it would be about more than just money. I mean shiiiit, Im just a "regular" nigah makin half decent money and I still give back to those who I grew up with who are strugglin and family members as well. So the whole, "I cant do shiit cause it wont make me money is so fuhkin cliche. Its old, lame and honestly just plain out and out TIRED! Like a rapper sayin i only do this for the money! Like, foreal, YOU TOO! Be creative, be hospitable. Make a fuhkin difference for once.

Holdin Obama down is what I stress the most though. Reason bein is cause Americans are fickle. None really gives a shiit about this country until you find yourself "having" to give a shiiit. I dont know if you seen the "Day The Earth Stood Still" but that was a funny movie. Like, we're gonna end life on this planet cause you fuhkas are too violent, are ungrateful, flat out dont give a shiiit. And then cause 2 mafuhkas persuade Keanu Reeves to not do so everythings OK?? C'mon. I could actually see suntin like that goin down, but with a different end result. If people start actin like they believe in shiit maybe things will be different. Stead of always preachin suntin and not followin through. I can literally see in the near future people givin up on Barack cause they feel he didnt make a change after already knowing that he said it will take time.

Your right, Americans did turn on the "idea" of the whole war thing. But why not speak on it? What, nigahs aint feelin suntin so you just throw ya flag in the trunk and go to bed? Speak on it. tell these azzholes why you mad. Thats the thing about America that puzzles me. We can talk shiiit when an outsiders says suntin, but can watch our own government fuhk us and mums the word!?! Nigahs is puzz! Point blank period!

Far as changin old habits. I mean I dont necessarily know what it takes to make things better but just an open mindedness could do some help. We aint gotta dance to the same tune. Its like hip hop. There doesnt have to be a horde of the same artist marchin around. We can add some variety to the shiiit.

illstrick5
01-25-09, 06:44 AM
Salute not in a hitler hile hitler sorta salute haha, long read I know u probably already know/thought about most of this, just my angle of thinking. racism probably won't ever leave, without a blinding brainwash cleansing. I completely agree with u about bill gates, but I don't know if he does. Hopefully if not hes the type that would need to be assas, um taking outta a position of power.


I've never cared about money, religion makes u not. Never seen the movie, but yeah u right they probably will flip, I just seen his first weekly address to the nation, man that joint was huge, like the ish he was talking about I can't lie I was skeptical as hell, but if he can really get people to start believing that way, with the same certainty he has, the world will rise higher than ever. Hes shouldering.


Nigahs is puzz, haha damn I feel u, but who saying what your saying where it can be heard, man if people had someone like u saying what your saying to them precisely and heard around the nation they would stand up. Nobody on nationwide tv, or radio or anywhere that can be seen easily is saying these type of things. Obamas saying it, but hes saying it in the keep calm and we'll fix it voice, everybody else is silent, or pretending nothings going on like some conspiracy ish.


Getting a bit paranoid, to all government people reading this, we are not planning anything just discussing ideas in a democratic nation. If all the people knew when and where to stand then they might, otherwise they would be just thinking like were thinking at random times but knowing nobody else is gonna do anything. U right though, everybody scared to shout it outloud, and see who stands behind them, because u can get bodied for that against the government if your forces aren't up. Like the panthers, martin, malcolm. I fuccing feel u though. If people could get a spokesman to focus what the people are feeling, someone like obama, but someone that spoke to the other side of minds heard nationwide, u would have street soldiers nationwide that have no color boundaries to hold him down. Probably why the governments and some people call him a dictator like figure, and keep making all the socialist comparisons, because if the people stand behind him on some militant ready to fight the government ish, they'll say hes doing what hilter did with the young germans building armys. That has its own set of problems. Government/media wouldn't give coverage to these street organizations because their ****ing crazy control freaks,even trying to lock the internet, and only respond to violence and large crowds. Plus they wouldn't want there power being threatened, and people nationwide catching on.

Only question I can think of is how would people nationwide know that millions of other people just like them are ready to stand up against the government and fight when the media/government is censoring these specific kind things to keep people in check. They say most people only wanna be a patriot when, its cool/everybody else is doing it, so the real patriots have to stand alone and hope they picked the right time. I don't know to much though, been taught to stay outta politics to tell u the truth.


Salute man, I feel u 100% if more people like u had a larger voice, there'd be alot more people that think and move like you do, and the government would reconsider pushing the people. Definitely openmindedness is a steel solid foundation to build on. Peace man that convo lifted me up a bit, knowing people all across the states think like this. Stay up.

bleekbeats
01-25-09, 03:32 PM
This is where I got my name from "Mo Betta Blues" This is nice fam. Mix the track and the vocal better and this will be offical.....!

Mo Betta Makes it Mo Betta