oh sh!T,.......JOE BUDDEN : GOES THROUGHd'T THE TABLE via SAIGON

[Art Barr]

Hey JOE,






JOEY STYLES : SAIGON,........puts JOE BUDDEN,..THROUGH THE TABLE!!!!


OH MY PHUCKIN GAWD

you got housed,.....awfully, and you used internet lines, too.
other people wrote for you,........

you not no REAL emcee, just a good rnb father mc type RAPPer, doin that sh!T.
you ruined all your credibility doin that sh!T.

then you dissed game, and he did the same thing to fiddy. so you not even upholding to no real emcee sh1t, that you gave as the reasoning for this battle.

you got phuckin let's go'd tOO....when i told you he could do that to you and it was legal. i just didn't tell you in full because i thought maybe you would be smart enough battling and knowing the resume of who you were battling.

oh saigon housed you something awful,..and just like i said. the person who goes first usually loses....

talkin about battling,...i told you, you was pickin a fight that you should have backed away from.


saigon, destroyed yo a55!!!!

it isn't even bias at all, he phuckin murdered, served you that cold dish....


oh my gawd!! lol...........................


art barr


saigon brilliant beat selection to go with the wu tang to start it off, on the jackin for beats,..imma house joe budden return diss track.

you wrote yourself into, the battle, which is also why i give you higher marks than, the supposed, i wanna see if he can battle. doesn't know about the under underground, and only in the underground and used to diss the whole sh1T, because you were a fraudulent biting major label wack mixtape rapper, who had jayz's d1ck in his mouth on every phuckin record you ever did.....

YOU LOST!!!!


lol, just the irony in you lost, after you initially sneaked dissed this community, is so poignant, now....



art barr




lol,........


JOEL GERTNER : joebuddens, goes throught the table!!!!

[ronnie1889]

art who one the battle as far as rhyme strcutre. just curious. in your opinion.

[SmokeSomething]

you just typed a whole bunch of bullsh1t

[KingStarbury3]

someone please ban this art barr faggit :dry:

[Master.P's Footwork]

art who one the battle as far as rhyme strcutre.
:laugh:

[Haze Luvah]

this dude just got home from collecting cans, smoked a g-unit, and made this thread.

[youngdev]

you know what art barr is a ***** straight up


why wasnt you in the other thread when buddens released his diss

all yall niccas is straight biased shyt is disgusting

[nalej]

someone translate that gibberish

[DAT NICCA KELSO]

someone translate that gibberish
Joe Buttons Lost

[Pee_Wee_Kirkland]

art who one the battle as far as rhyme strcutre. just curious. in your opinion.

lol this n1gga questions always lookin like statements

[Kazushi Swagaraba]

you know what art barr is a ***** straight up


why wasnt you in the other thread when buddens released his diss

all yall niccas is straight biased shyt is disgusting

:yes:

It's pathetic...he's coming off as a straight up cheerleader just cuz Budden wouldn't pay his lame ass any mind. :smh: @ this n1gga riding on Saigon's back like a Golden Axe beast actin like he's in on the fight. Actin like that lil b1tch ass n1gga that talks sh1t then runs and hides in the background when sh1t actually pops off, and then has the nerve to come in talkin hardbody when the dust settles like he was out there throwing down too. Sit your Rah-rah pom-pom shakin dust and d1ck smokin ass down n1gga. You're a failed Jay-Z clone and I don't give a fukk if you have clout on these boards. :ucku:

Oh...and :smh: @ you again for typing a bunch of random, autistic-type bullsh1t and trying to pass it off as abstract, deep intelligence. There's nothing worse than a pretentious stupid fukk pseudo-intellectual. :thumbsdow

[Cap10KillAB1tch]

art who one the battle as far as rhyme strcutre. just curious. in your opinion.


:laugh:

[Art Barr]

look at all these haters,...immediately coming in this thread.


next,..i didn't comment on the other songs, because they were lackluster.
joey tried to just x's and o's his way to victory.
plus,..i was gettin my harddrive up, and running, and then the unexpected saigon comeback......

this saigon reply, just deaded all that sh!T.


this saigon sh1T encompassed the whole sh1T, and just destroyed budden.


dude's career is kinda over, and his cred is ruined too.

joe budden is an underground rapper, and subject to being punished for fakin jax.

i don't think he understood that dynamic, and all his tricknology biting and the like, all came back to bite him in the a55.

saigon destroyed, joe budden,..straight up annihilation murder death kill mode on dude......


crow scene : ain't no coming back,...uh-uh,..ain't no coming back.


saigon straps joe in the automobile posed to race off the dock, and it explodes before it hits the hudson....


JOEY STYLES : OH my PHUCKIN GAWD!!!

JoE BUDDEN JUST SUFFERED AN ETHER EXPLOSIVE LOSS...


JOEY STYLES : JOE BUDDEN LOST!!!


now,..that statement is actualized, after you dissed it and now it pertains to you.


oh this was to much,.....you took two phuckin humongous L's. one on to the internet community destroying your credibility.

plus a loss as a new bloated gloating i was a major label artist prude,..who got put in his place.


art barr

[Franchise1113]

Buddens lost ! It's ova !

[a plies pressure]

art barr... get the tabless

[-YDB-]

art.....

u can't call it a loss for budden. Buddens 2nd diss is still the best diss of the battle.

IMO Buddens is still winning, but I'm sure if a poll was done it would be 50-50, or at worst 55-45... so I can't say anyone ethered anybody.

[youngdev]

Um Joe Budden not only paid him some mind, art barr's name came out of his mouth so....
Though I have to admit I don't really get everything Art Barr is trying to say in this post.


The point is art barr ain't say **** since joe released pain in his life art barr ain't have shyt to say he was quiet as hell, now sai released his diss now he on some rah rah type shyt this niccas a fckin fraud straight up, nicca u wasn't fighting for sai when joe got him on pain in his life, but now sai come with some hot shyt and u on his nuts fckin faggit

[Kazushi Swagaraba]

Um Joe Budden not only paid him some mind, art barr's name came out of his mouth so....
Though I have to admit I don't really get everything Art Barr is trying to say in this post.

Uh, yeah.

...but I'm speaking on the fact that Barr then made a thread trying to call Buddens out which went nowhere. Now he wants to try and live vicariously through Saigon. Pathetic. :smh:

[Art Barr]

TRANSLATION ;

joe budden lost to saigon,..and lost because he put so much bullsh!t biter tricknology out there. all it took was an underground hopefull, to get the right oppurtunity to take him out.

joe, and sohh.

i told you this was liable to happen, and why it could be actualized, and it was.

i know battling, and i let it play out after the first song, to see if they would have a storied war. amidst computer issues, or i would have commented in full, about the battle but after the lackluster first, second, and third omissions,..it seemed like it wouldn't matter who won, because the overrall quality from both artist was lacking.

well till saigon, just recorded let's go version 2.0, the winner's edition, on joe budden.

the difference between let's go, the original, and saigon's is. saigon's material was pretty much all true, and encompassed the history of joe buddens and their encounters and details. kool moe dee's didn't do that, and also...ll cool j, was a much more respected individual etching out platinum sales on defjam. so ll being attacked was more tongue in cheek battling. in comparison to saigon's straight battle ether like rant, which actually tackled all the issues, detail, and history of this battle.

it went two rounds,......and joe moved to quickly and never heeded the information contained within the times i bodied him on this board after innitially being bodied. which also cosigns,..he doesn't read the comments i make. knowing full well, who the phuck i am, and the effect i could have on you. if you front on what i have to say. you fronted and didn't read any of the sh!t and try to correlate what was actually in bold phuckin print. all the sh1t i make has a hiphop cultural reference or a hinted at token of what is there. this is some old bboy your third eye should be open. yet you just proved you really aren't a bboy, yet...a fakin jax jersey island overlooking ny starstruck studio 57 androgynous fagg0t.

you faked jax, and tried to get that major label trash to fly in the underground. when i told you, the possibilities and ramifications.
plus, the fact you socially were to inept to try to do this. plus you are to much of a biter and fake emcee, to try and dupe the underground.

now,..take your loss,..concede, and apologize to the underground.

first for trying to pull some culture stealing tricknology, ala biting, using your fan base as your ghostwriters on your fansite.
plus using and putting subliminal disses to rappers you were tryin to bait into a battle. when you should know that was a no-no, because it is the same injury canibus suffered to ll cool j, on defjam.


take your losses like a phuckin man,..this time, and not a whiney bi everything b!Tch that saigon exposed you in full via rhyme form as being.


art barr

[a plies pressure]

yo art barr, are budden and saigon gonna have a tai pei death match now? barb wire match? there needs to be a blow off no homo

[Art Barr]

art barr... get the tabless



lol,....

JOeY STYLES : OH MY PHUCKIN GAWD!!!!!!


and a plies fan username no less,........if he gets it.

yall just phuckin fronting just because of the vessell it comes from.

proving i got real haters. and like i always was told.

you don't have no haters, till you doin something exactly right.


thank you,..now all that indecypherable sh!T cause it is covert purposefully, shouldn't be attacked anymore, either.


straight up,..this settles it.


art barr

[Kazushi Swagaraba]

lol,....
JOeY STYLES : OH MY PHUCKIN GAWD!!!!!!
and a plies fan username no less,........if he gets it.
yall just phuckin fronting just because of the vessell it comes from.
proving i got real haters. and like i always was told.
you don't have no haters, till you doin something exactly right.
thank you,..now all that indecypherable sh!T cause it is covert purposefully, shouldn't be attacked anymore, either.
straight up,..this settles it.
art barr

...and you've made several threads and posts hating on Joe Buddens so pot, kettle, black? You keep putting yourself out there like an attention whore so you're gonna get what you ask for. (no homo) You're like the oldest postwhore on SOHH.

[doeboy]

you got phuckin let's go'd tOO!!i almost lost it when he went into moe dee mode.

[Art Barr]

yo art barr, are budden and saigon gonna have a tai pei death match now? barb wire match? there needs to be a blow off no homo


saigon killd't that n!gga budden in a texas barbed wire flaming tables match....

it isn't a comeback for this record. not at all, because this diss is airtight


from the result of budden's injuries, from the worked match.
joe budden, takes his damaged beyound repair draw, to work his retirement match in the HELL!!!!


art barr

[kicknpush_08]

:yes:

It's pathetic...he's coming off as a straight up cheerleader just cuz Budden wouldn't pay his lame ass any mind. :smh: @ this n1gga riding on Saigon's back like a Golden Axe beast actin like he's in on the fight. Actin like that lil b1tch ass n1gga that talks sh1t then runs and hides in the background when sh1t actually pops off, and then has the nerve to come in talkin hardbody when the dust settles like he was out there throwing down too. Sit your Rah-rah pom-pom shakin dust and d1ck smokin ass down n1gga. You're a failed Jay-Z clone and I don't give a fukk if you have clout on these boards. :ucku:

Oh...and :smh: @ you again for typing a bunch of random, autistic-type bullsh1t and trying to pass it off as abstract, deep intelligence. There's nothing worse than a pretentious stupid fukk pseudo-intellectual. :thumbsdow
Word! just like suncoon this n1gga jas become the joke of the spot i mean lets not start on the wack recordings of art barr smh dudes a washed up n1gga

[Predator]

yo art...no offense, but you were pretty silent on all this after "Pain in his Life" dropped

you know budden is going to come back with some heat

[Art Barr]

i almost lost it when he went into moe dee mode.


i couldn't believe he went there, either.....


then he kills that, then pump it up comes on, outta PHUcking nowhere,...and it keeps goin. to straight finish joe budden off...

imo,..this is one of the best diss jackin for beats style mixtape record, of the mid 2000's mixtape generation, i have heard ever.

complete annihilation, murder deathkill mode execution, of budden....


art barr

[youngdev]

yo art...no offense, but you were pretty silent on all this after "Pain in his Life" dropped

you know budden is going to come back with some heat


That's what I been saying dude was silent, he says cause pain in his life was lackluster 95 percent of the people up here disagree, then he says something was wrong with his hard drive, so when buddens comes back is something gonna be wrong with your hard drive


Art my dude you are a joke, mind you this is the same dude who told me sai earned his just blaze beats and his co sign and his deal but buddens didnt , he still ain't explained that one though he probably won't

[Peet C]

Damn Art, you're really falling off lately with the discovery of you're underwhelming music and all the wrestling sh!t you've been coming with. I can see some of the more intelligent posters coming for your head in the coming weeks if you dont release some of your newer (hopefully better) material and step up you're posting game to what it once was. I'd hate to see Art Barr thread's get Ja rule'd on SOHH.

You're right tho, Saigon annihilated Joey sumthin horrible.

[Art Barr]

yo art...no offense, but you were pretty silent on all this after "Pain in his Life" dropped

you know budden is going to come back with some heat


with budden coming and lurking on the internet,..i didn't want him to use any more internet based material.

he need to figure it out on his own,..as well as saigon.

i think that should easily have been correlated from my non-response, as well.

joebudden would have tried to use i was a cheerleader or he was getting online submission to beat me, if saigon had a write up by me. that is why i didn't supply one, because oddly enough,..i was involved in this battle,.....



i had to give that whole sh!t,..the oh-no uh uh...hogan finger taunt of doom.....

so i waited it out...

i was involved in this battle,..on wax, and the internet. i believe and know i could be silent, cause i would have precipitated the battle from playing out, naturally.

i couldn't reply, because budden was goin to try to roll saigon's allegiance to chicago. plus, me being brought into this battle via his comments, as his ammunition to comeback.

yet i was quiet already knowing what the deal was.

it is so many styles of battles i seen n!ggaz get served at.

i told yall i know this battle sh!T.

excuse me if i have to take the role of silence.

that is all part of battlin as well.........to bad joey didn't learn that, from his previous battle experiences. i told him, that he was on some bullsh1T, and i was right.




art barr

[doeboy]

i sware i think i heard "finish him" right before the pump it up part.

[Art Barr]

...and you've made several threads and posts hating on Joe Buddens so pot, kettle, black? You keep putting yourself out there like an attention whore so you're gonna get what you ask for. (no homo) You're like the oldest postwhore on SOHH.


n!gga, i never hated on joebudden...everything i posted about him was ascertained by listening to his music.

you can hear him cite jayz's rhymes, that isn't made up.

he even cited jay's common sense sh!T, when emcee wise you really not supposed to be making material that encompasses other n!ggaz exact lyrics. you shouldn't even be making reference about the sh!t at all....

joe was on a major label backed mixtapes, and an actual defjam album. plus was ostracized off defjam, when jay became president. even if jay, tried to be forgiving and turning a blind eye. you can feel and see the tricknology from budden and even defjam signing budden right when jay's original distribution deal with the roc and defjam were coming to a close.

all i did was review records, and cite people's inexperience with hiphop as it pertains to the credible skill set an emcee must have.

joe budden took exception to it, and mentioned me. as a public figure, simply because he knew it was dead on. plus knew he was faking jax, so he made another obvious subliminal diss to me over on his board.

which lead to how i was involved and had to go on battle mode.

i wasn't goin to comment till a real winner was crowned. the record saigon just recorded was head and shoulders above the lackluster original. then joe was another ransom, game lite diss,..when joe needed more to beat saigon. like i disclosed earlier saigon was from the under underground. joe never heeded and tried to x's and o's battle template saigon like game, and ransom.

which could and did result in a loss. leaving him susceptible as the higher rated battle emcee, against a relative newcomer to the battling department saigon.

we heard saigon grow up overnight battling, and bodied joe with what counts. just rockin beats, with killer relevent to the battle diss rhymes and an incredible uppage in skills to boot.

which is why saigon gets the duke against budden. budden pulled the same nonsense which got, his idol bodied as well.


art barr

[Art Barr]

i sware i think i heard "finish him" right before the pump it up part.


on the real,..........

he murdered dude,..something awful.........

it is undeniable and no coming back...



art barr

[Baggy Magnum]

budden won

[Peet C]

i was involved in this battle,..on wax, and the internet. i believe and know i could be silent, cause i would have precipitated the battle from playing out, naturally.
i couldn't reply, because budden was goin to try to roll saigon's allegiance to chicago. plus, me being brought into this battle via his comments, as his ammunition to comeback.



????????????????? how were you involved? especially on wax ?

[Rakim23]

smmfh:smh:

[Art Barr]

Damn Art, you're really falling off lately with the discovery of you're underwhelming music and all the wrestling sh!t you've been coming with. I can see some of the more intelligent posters coming for your head in the coming weeks if you dont release some of your newer (hopefully better) material and step up you're posting game to what it once was. I'd hate to see Art Barr thread's get Ja rule'd on SOHH.
You're right tho, Saigon annihilated Joey sumthin horrible.


all that sh!T was a gimmick,...to buffer my involvement in the battle while it was taking place.

it is evident in the titles and content of the actual posting.

you just have to get the irony, foreshadowing or be familiar in full with the references.

or ask what the phuck i meant, instead of relying on an alias,..i never asked to translate a post.

most people be talkin that i don't understand, when it has been open for years for me to come tell you in full. what you wanted to know if you asked.

the people who didn't ask really can't pose or act like they wanted to know. we are on the internet, you can ask me what you want, to know. yet, you lurk like that coward joe budden and try to come outta nowhere with your disapproval.

i been reviewing and posting in this style for years.

since 1997 as auran dayspring on davey d,...and later in sometime 1999 here. so i don't understand what the issue is,....especially since 1997 when i first started the style it was championed thirteen years ago. it is just an evolving content based thing. also,....it goes to show people who have an oppurtunity don't empower themselves to do so. if you are so curious, use the search feature like you do for everything else on the internet, and try to get it.

or just go to the source who is always here, and get it directly from me.

i have left that open, as a possibility for thirteen years now...


art barr

[doeboy]

on the real,..........
he murdered dude,..something awful.........
it is undeniable and no coming back...
art barri usually refrain from writing cats off, but i just listened to the joint again and its on some faces of death type sh1t. listening to that is like watching a cat get his head blown off with the shottie.

[Art Barr]

????????????????? how were you involved? especially on wax ?
i'm not sure if you know but joe budden dissed and called me out on his board.

then HE ACTUALLY came on the board, to confront me, and got online bodied and put through the table.

when he couldn't answer or combat the issues i raised to him which were all based on correlation and actual facts.

i didn't start this sh1T,...joe budden started all of this sh!t, and got his just desserts.

i just had to reciprocate. you can't fault me for that.

plus, every online fan on the entire internet can now feel vindicated because for years. you had major label artist sh!tting on us and making a mockery of our displeasure for their awful low quality music. plus weren't able to take the criticism no matter if it was good or bad. to actually improve their music. mostly all the rappers on majors tried to make the online community which are their fans into some whipping boi's.

me standing up to joe budden and disproving him, and also his self exposal as a lurker. combated and defeated that nonsense in one fell swoop.

that is why i started posting art barr equals the sohh champion. simply because i freedom fought for all the internet to be respected as viable.


you can't diss me for that, especially when i championed every poster from now to the end of time. plus, gave them the respect they deserved, and bodied budden with the actual details of occurrences and facts.

all that art barr is indecypherable is more people being unfamiliar with references......

it isn't indicative of the actual content, and gems i have been getting praised for, for years now....a decade or more actually, now........

it is one of the reasonings i believe joe budden attacked me on his fan site as well. it was to discredit me, for being actually wholely factually correct about him. plus his social interaction and h0e budden tendencies all prove this, too.


art barr

[Art Barr]

i usually refrain from writing cats off, but i just listened to the joint again and its on some faces of death type sh1t. listening to that is like watching a cat get his head blown off with the shottie.


straight punisher warzone with the shottie heinously mercilless killing, type sh!T...



art barr

[Art Barr]

????????????????? how were you involved? especially on wax ?


meaning,....if i would have not fell back as i was supposed to. joe budden would have kept up.

joe budden's issue was with saigon.

i wasn't goin to let him put me into the fire, on reel-to-reel. simply because i shouldn't be involved. i was just a critic. yet, budden tried to dissmiss me, from top to bottom. plus make me his whipping boi on his site. when if he was objective, like he says he was and isn't. he would have never taken offense to me. i am not just a critic unfamiliar with the resource material, ala the stones.
i provide actually good respected and loathed by artist commentary on their records. joe budden took offense to that.

it would be a ho move on joe budden to involve me in this battle, even further on wax. i even told him that initially, and honestly he needs to leave me alone.

especially considering he could have come on here as cheah!,...ages ago, in stead of lurking. to discuss his problem with my reviews of his records....

art barr

[PurpleKushy]

saigon, destroyed yo a55!!!!
it isn't even bias at all, he phuckin murdered, served you that cold dish....
oh my gawd!! lol...........................
art barr
JOEL GERTNER : joebuddens, goes throught the table!!!!


LOL, art crackin' a n1cca up!

:laugh:

[NotSoft]

So we aint waitin for responses no more? lol...Just seems desperate...from both Budden and Saigon fans tryin to hype up each diss from they favorite more and more like theres no comeback to it...first of all theres a comeback for everything...second of all none of these disses have been at the level where sumbodys "career" is officially over and theres no hope for a comeback...this aint No Vaseline nikka...try to keep it hiphop for once artbarr.

[Art Barr]

So we aint waitin for responses no more? lol...Just seems desperate...from both Budden and Saigon fans tryin to hype up each diss from they favorite more and more like theres no comeback to it...first of all theres a comeback for everything...second of all none of these disses have been at the level where sumbodys "career" is officially over and theres no hope for a comeback...this aint No Vaseline nikka...try to keep it hiphop for once artbarr.


yeah,..this record is no vaseline level for saigon.
the content presented and execution level is that high on this record. plus it is a jackin for beats, and is that good.

usually disses of this variety are never this good....not even superugly was this good.

this encompassed all the actual psychology it would take to body joe buddens, and saigon delivered a hunid fold. plus grew up right on our eyes on wax...which is exactly what you are supposed to do in a battle.


incredible outing by saigon, to take out buddens.



art barr


this is let's go 2.0,..the winner's edition.....

[Art Barr]

LOL, art crackin' a n1cca up!
:laugh:


JOEY STYLES : ART BARR, extends the preciate it handshake

[doeboy]

So we aint waitin for responses no more? lol...Just seems desperate...from both Budden and Saigon fans tryin to hype up each diss from they favorite more and more like theres no comeback to it...first of all theres a comeback for everything...second of all none of these disses have been at the level where sumbodys "career" is officially over and theres no hope for a comeback...this aint No Vaseline nikka...try to keep it hiphop for once artbarr.there has never been a dis track that has ended someone's career. no vaseline didnt end anybody's career. fuk ppl got to wait for? if budden comes back with something iller than this then he'll get credit for it. nobody waited for ether. during the 3 months between takeover's release and ether's release ppl were saying that jay ate nas. then nas dropped ether and a lot of those same ppl changed up and said that nas ate jay. same thing happened in this situation. ppl wrote saigon off after that budden track until he came back with something iller. joey can turn this back around if he has it in him.

[NotSoft]

smh at artbarr thinkin he played a role in this...go make ya own diss,probaly usin hovs flow and adlibs and diss budden if u want sum props until then shut up,we can have a battle of the jay copycats...u not the first internet poster Budden has gotten into it wit...matter fact he's threatened a couple physically from allhiphop to sohh lol,i vividly remember him tryna meet up wit a sohh poster from jersey to fight...u overstatin ya importance.

[Art Barr]

there has never been a dis track that has ended someone's career. no vaseline didnt end anybody's career. fuk ppl got to wait for? if budden comes back with something iller than this then he'll get credit for it. nobody waited for ether. during the 3 months between takeover's release and ether's release ppl were saying that jay ate nas. then nas dropped ether and a lot of those same ppl changed up and said that nas ate jay. same thing happened in this situation. ppl wrote saigon off after that budden track until he came back with something iller. joey can turn this back around if he has it in him.


the battle was over after ether, g.......

same as this battle..........joe may make more disses, but considering his role in this.

that is how he takes the global L, for the battle. if saigon would have precipitated and started this encounter. then it could be a different story as to how it played out.

in this case, budden picked on more than he could actually wholely swallow.

joe budden got that jagged lil pill, on this sh!T......


art barr

[Art Barr]

smh at artbarr thinkin he played a role in this...go make ya own diss,probaly usin hovs flow and adlibs and diss budden if u want sum props until then shut up,we can have a battle of the jay copycats...u not the first internet poster Budden has gotten into it wit...matter fact he's threatened a couple physically from allhiphop to sohh lol,i vividly remember him tryna meet up wit a sohh poster from jersey to fight...u overstatin ya importance.


i already explained to budden and discredited his attempt to try to play me like i'm inferior because i'm on the internet.

i already broke down that psychology. if budden would have dissed me in rhyme form he would have made himself seem like a b!Tch even more.

simply because i already addressed the psychology and debunked that bullsh!T notion, he was tryin to bait me into.


art barr

[NotSoft]

there has never been a dis track that has ended someone's career. no vaseline didnt end anybody's career. fuk ppl got to wait for? if budden comes back with something iller than this then he'll get credit for it. nobody waited for ether. during the 3 months between takeover's release and ether's release ppl were saying that jay ate nas. then nas dropped ether and a lot of those same ppl changed up and said that nas ate jay. same thing happened in this situation. ppl wrote saigon off after that budden track until he came back with something iller. joey can turn this back around if he has it in him.


Its ok to say he ate Budden but i been seein nikkas talkin bout "Saigon shouldnt respond no more" before even hearinBuddens response....and u really comparin 3 hours wit 3 months....Nas took 3 months to respond so people naturally thought he had no response....its a big difference in a diss bein up 3 hrs and people sayin Budden has no response after seein what Buddens done to nikkas on wax in the past...i admit i didnt give Saigon much of a chance but based off his first diss why would I? Look back at Buddens history and tell me he aint got no chance wit a straight face like these other nikkas sayin.