Drake, Kid Cudi, Charles Hamilton etc will never blow...

[Black Pride]

...as much as yall hate to admit it if the streets aint fukkin with them they never gone pop like that.

Hipster rap will never be mainstream.

[BlackBulletZZ]

drake isn't a hipster, close thread.

[Taikun]

...as much as yall hate to admit it if the streets aint fukkin with them they never gone pop like that.

Hipster rap will never be mainstream.
Kanye West

Close thread.

[phazed out]

...as much as yall hate to admit it if the streets aint fukkin with them they never gone pop like that.

Hipster rap will never be mainstream.

whether u like it or not man, lupe fiasco could fall under hipster too

[Black Pride]

Kanye West
Close thread.

Nope, West didn't start out like that, how easy yall forget history, College Dropout anyone? All the stoff he did with the Roc is what got him hot in the first place.

[Haze Luvah]

Kid Cudi will

[Black Pride]

whether u like it or not man, lupe fiasco could fall under hipster too

He's just now switching over, he'll be back to his old self once this rock project he workin on bombs

[T-Real831]

yea the hood makes people like wayne go platinum.

[khrys_x]

Kanye West
Close thread.

Whether or not those specific rappers blow is of course yet to be seen...but I think it's safe to say that Kanye, and later Lupe have opened up a lane for cats that don't necessarily beat you over the head with the street sh!t...all any of those cats need is a hit record (like Lupe had with Superstar) and they're in there...

[pop203]

Kanye West
Close thread.

i think if kanye came in the game without Rocafella ridin with him and makin him "cool" then he'd never have made it, i think he'd probably say that himself. the dude is crazy talented but it takes a lot more than that for these idiots to rock with you out here. him throwin the diamond and rockin the chain validated him. and now that he's validated he can go on and do what he's always wanted to do, with or without jay-z. i think kanye west can be attributed for a lot of these newer kinda left field rappers makin a little noise, he opened up that lane a little bit.

[Black Pride]

yea the hood makes people like wayne go platinum.

Huh? Wayne been going platinum for years. Yall trynna rewrite history

[Black Pride]

Im not saying a rapper has to be "street" or rap about guns, drugs, etc. Im just saying this new trend of thinking you can just bypass the street approval and jump right out there doesn't work.

[pop203]

yea the hood makes people like wayne go platinum.
but the street sayin "he's good" is what sparks everything. from that, then all the little white boys and girls jump on board. it's always been like that. it's very hard for a rapper who raps about tough sh!t to bypass the street audience and go straight to the top of the charts.

[pop203]

Im not saying a rapper has to be "street" or rap about guns, drugs, etc. Im just saying this new trend of thinking you can just bypass the street approval and jump right out there doesn't work.
yo, we just said the exact same thing, we even used the same words, "bypass the street". lol. yo, thats crazy right there.

[shakobe 3]

i dont know about them other n1ggas but drake is a problem

[Black Pride]

Add Asher Roth to the list

[Swag Trillionaire]

u get maybe 4-5 rap artists blowing every 10 years (Em, 50, Game, Kanye, Wayne)

none of these new dudes are even nearly special enough to blow like that (nh)

[pop203]

u get maybe 4-5 rap artists blowing every 10 years (Em, 50, Game, Kanye, Wayne)

none of these new dudes are even nearly special enough to blow like that (nh)

i think cory could blow up, bein honest. i really don't wanna say this but, he's got the swag, and on top of that the kid is nice as f*ck. he's like a younger, more complex, less drugged up version of lil wayne.

[Nguvu]

but the street sayin "he's good" is what sparks everything. from that, then all the little white boys and girls jump on board. it's always been like that. it's very hard for a rapper who raps about tough sh!t to bypass the street audience and go straight to the top of the charts.

Isn't that more so because that's been the primary audience for most hip-hop acts while they're coming up? If you take Drake or Kid Cudi for example, they're being cosigned by some of the biggest stars in music today, the same artists who've laid the groundwork for their possible success. I don't think the ambiguous "streets" are relevant when it comes to whether they blow up or not at this point because they haven't gone through that avenue.

[Rubber_Band_Man!]

out of all of em, max b needs to blow no homo.

[Black Pride]

Isn't that more so because that's been the primary audience for most hip-hop acts while they're coming up? If you take Drake or Kid Cudi for example, they're being cosigned by some of the biggest stars in music today, the same artists who've laid the groundwork for their possible success. I don't think the ambiguous "streets" are relevant when it comes to whether they blow up or not at this point because they haven't gone through that avenue.

It don't matter who co-sign em if the streets don't.

[Black Pride]

u get maybe 4-5 rap artists blowing every 10 years (Em, 50, Game, Kanye, Wayne)
none of these new dudes are even nearly special enough to blow like that (nh)
Real Talk

[Nguvu]

It don't matter who co-sign em if the streets don't.

I think you're putting more stock in to the opinion of the streets and not seeing the way the streets' reception of an artist has served functionally in the past and how it really won't serve that same function in the coming years. With the influence of the Internet, the diminishing influence of stereotypically "street-themed" rap music, and a far more narrow field of successful rappers than maybe any time in the last two decades, I don't think today's emerging MCs will be running the same gauntlet or needing the same approval to make it to the next level.

I'm not sure that the artists you mentioned will blow up any way to be honest, I don't really see star quality in any of them but we'll see soon enough.

[raw_613]

i dont know if id view drake as a hipster hes more so a regular dude that just isnt a street dude, but i dunno cuz college frat cats buy more records than the streets do why do you think lil wayne sold so much more with carter 3 after his transformation. but really if you wanna be honest, i dont care if someones hipster or street or neither i just want rappers to just be true to whatever it is they are and just make good music

[Black Pride]

I think you're putting more stock in to the opinion of the streets and not seeing the way the streets' reception of an artist has served functionally in the past and how it really won't serve that same function in the coming years. With the influence of the Internet, the diminishing influence of stereotypically "street-themed" rap music, and a far more narrow field of successful rappers than maybe any time in the last two decades, I don't think today's emerging MCs will be running the same gauntlet or needing the same approval to make it to the next level.


The day this happens hip hop will go the way of disco

[msConception]

Drake will def be gettin' somewhere. Although he reminds me a lot of treysongz with the rap/singing bit, he does have a lil leverage above the rest of the artist mentioned because of his association with Wayne. He'll probably get some lime light, cudi it's a possibility.. but it'll take a while for him to grow on some people.

[big business]

out of all of em, max b needs to blow no homo.

[T-Real831]

Huh? Wayne been going platinum for years. Yall trynna rewrite history

in 99 when *****s didnt burn cds muthafucca.

[ReInCaRnAtioN]

drake?
haha he'll have a hot single but at most move 100k

[DpGc]

Pardon my ignorance but please define


Hipster Rap

I dont understand

Lupe Kanye Drake Cudi Hamilton all in the same sentence only on SOHH

SMH
www.SOHH.com lost


wow

[Still Datshyt]

Drake isnt a hipster...*plays Ransom*...close thread

[T-Real831]

Drake isnt a hipster...*plays Ransom*...close thread

[TheLoveBelow]

Anything in music can get hot at any moment...Flo-Rida,Mims,Chingy,etc.

All these guys need is the right song and then people will give their music a chance.Kid Cudi is experiencing a bit of that now that Day n Nite has taken off.

BUT,the real stars of the genre build a fanbase by staying true to what they do and making quality music.T.I. made the same kind of music on I'm Serious and Trap Muzik as he did on Urban Legend and King.

[AGE_Arson]

All of em are gonna blow. I'd love from all of em to be the new leaders of the game b/c they all have different styles and the music sounds good.:yes:

[sporticus]

Kid Cudi is experiencing a bit of that now that Day n Nite has taken off.


Yup. Cudi's doing it right now with that song.

[AGE_Arson]

Drake isnt a hipster...*plays Ransom*...close threadthat nicca is a poser, he's good at it but a poser none the less

[RichYung!!]

yall forgot that Drake tried to come out 2 years ago? lol..n1gga had the video and all that..NOW!!!!!!! all the sudden people gon feel him?...that wayne co-sign is all he got..

[Ken Piffey Jr.]

yall forgot that Drake tried to come out 2 years ago? lol..n1gga had the video and all that..NOW!!!!!!! all the sudden people gon feel him?...that wayne co-sign is all he got..

that was for the canadian audience before he got with wayne. and before gettin signed

[RichYung!!]

that was for the canadian audience before he got with wayne. and before gettin signed
n1gga that s.hit was on 106 and park..what u mean canadian audience ?

[Kazushi Swagaraba]

All of em are gonna blow. I'd love from all of em to be the new leaders of the game b/c they all have different styles and the music sounds good.:yes:

I agree with the "all of em are gonna blow" thing. Thread starter is wrong. They WILL blow because the whole hipster thing is big now. Why do you think so many established artists are crossing over? (Kanye, Jay-z, T.I., etc.) Of course, if these new artists don't find a way to keep with the turning trends, they'll be left behind...but that's how it goes with any artist. However, now is the perfect time for them to enter the game with their style of music.

[Black Pride]

Why do you think so many established artists are crossing over? (Kanye, Jay-z, T.I., etc.) Of course, if these new artists don't find a way to keep with the turning trends, they'll be left behind...but that's how it goes with any artist. However, now is the perfect time for them to enter the game with their style of music.

None of the Arists u named crossed over, Jay is just hoping on trends like he been doing since forever, T.I. Still on his same shyt, and Kayne is an experimental artists in the same vein as Outkast so he always been allowed to switch it up at will.

[Ken Piffey Jr.]

that was for the canadian audience before he got with wayne. and before gettin signed

only reason he was on 106 was cause of the trey songz feature. he was unsigned at the time b.

[BUKLDOWN]

yea the hood makes people like wayne go platinum.

u are very ignorant :smh:

[holycity]

naw dis is da yr for hipsters the hood are jockind dey swagg now, and the hood dnt dictate wat hot anymore, y u think nerds, and da so called weired ppl are wats hot now, u can thank pharell,kanye,lupe, adn the rest 4 dat. u know u are called a lame if u wear baggy clothing, and jordans now:smh: everything is going backwards now wat ever u made fun of or wasnt down wit now u are down wit wit alot of hypocrites out here:smh:

[DpGc]

WTF is hipster?

[Kazushi Swagaraba]

None of the Arists u named crossed over, Jay is just hoping on trends like he been doing since forever, T.I. Still on his same shyt, and Kayne is an experimental artists in the same vein as Outkast so he always been allowed to switch it up at will.

WTF are you talking about? :huh:

Jay hopping on trends is a given.

As for T.I....his music hasn't changed much...but I'm speaking on his image. Don't act like he hasn't been trying to appeal to the hipsters lately.

...and Kanye is the fukking figurehead for the hip-hop/hipster crossover. Also, how the fukk are you going to compare him to Outkast? When has Outkast switched their sh1t up to hop on trends or appeal to certain crowds?

[frange]

drake is sick. idk bout the other guys

[bk42]

drake is sick. idk bout the other guys

smh drake is not sick. mickey facts charles hamilton cory gunz are all better then this dude drake.

[HallOw]

Wayne.

[itchybomb]

People screaming about the so-called "streets" are corny.


Black people have too much crab-in-the-barrel mentality to put too much stock in "the streets" opinion, because basically, nggas is haters.

If you're not bustin' a gun or flippin' a ki, then you're weak to these so-called "streets." Just being CALLED "street" is a compliment to them.

Nggas got this sht BACKWARDS.


The good artists make good music and the listeners follow. You dudes on Sohh make it seem like there's an underground hive mind that controls what is and isn't acceptible in black culture. Not so.

I mean, take Outkast for example. "The streets" never said it was okay for Andre to dress like a genie. He just went and did it, and nggas had to let him do it because fuk it, HE'S ANDRE, HE DOES WHAT HE WANTS.


I respect the intelligent people making good music and doing what seems natural to them, not trying to cater to these imaginary "streets."

The scope of black creativity isn't limited by what the most closeminded, ignorant nggas are limited to.