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rapandhiphopfan
12-25-08, 06:32 PM
I Rather listen to hair metal bands from the 80's again, the endure that pathetic genre called nu metal, rap rock worked a long time ago with Run DMC/Aerosmith, Rage Against the machine, Biohazard and anthrax and public enemy, but this one is a failure, everything about that genre was stupid, limp bizkit, korn and the rest just plain sucked to me, the only good members out of those bands are fieldy from korn and DJ Lethal from Limp Bizkit.

yaga
12-26-08, 01:09 AM
The existence of the Deftones = /thread.

Thank you, now move along everyone.

And GTFO of this this forum.

Cheers!

*God Blessed*
12-26-08, 06:32 AM
eh i dunno. limp bizkit was awful but this genre has produced some of the hardest bangers in rock history :yes:

emo is the worst

rapandhiphopfan
12-26-08, 10:21 AM
eh i dunno. limp bizkit was awful but this genre has produced some of the hardest bangers in rock history :yes:

emo is the worst

Are you kidding me, none of the nu metal bangers were hard, there's nothing good about it, just junk.

sayagain
12-26-08, 11:31 AM
eh i dunno. limp bizkit was awful but this genre has produced some of the hardest bangers in rock history :yes:

emo is the worst
limp bizkit was like the ja rule of rock

k5banga
12-26-08, 12:00 PM
You cant say KoRn sucked either, they took rock music from the grunge days by themselves, yes they CAN be blamed for Limp Bizkit, but the Bizkit did put out some classic stuff. KoRn distanced themselves from Nu-Metal, and they werent REALLY Nu-Metal at all, they did a few songs but they were nothing like the crappy bands that spawned AFTER THEM, all trying to copy there sound.
Nu-Metal was what got me into rock, and it was the most succesful form of rock music, and the last great era so far, since then rock music has be very stale and staggnant

TheT Organization
12-26-08, 12:32 PM
Nu metal is the worst thing ever.


At least hair metal was funny and kind of slick for the times in retrospect. Because it birthed Exodus, Megadeth, Venom, Cro-Mags, and all of those other LA metal bands that would pave the way for hardcore in the 90s.

Nu metal is just garbage. The soundtrack of a bunch of corn husking fat losers from Iowa who hit each other over the with flourescent light bulbs playing backyard wrestling who idoloize grown men wearing makeup and masks rapping about how many energy drinks and vicodins they consume.

TheT Organization
12-26-08, 12:35 PM
The existence of the Deftones = /thread.

Thank you, now move along everyone.

And GTFO of this this forum.

Cheers!



To their argument, the Deftones been around since the early nineties so that really doesn't make them nu-metal by any means. They were more of a hardcore/post-punk/alt-rock/metal hybrid of a band. Ever since "White Pony"...though, they've been messing with alot more electronics and experimental elements to create this weird ethereal metal/progressive hybrid with all of the old stuff they've gotten into and are just beyond what they were even doing during the "Around the Fur" days...which coincidentally, was the first album to feature now permanent 6th member DJ Frank Delgado...

The DJ in the metal band thing got played around 2000-2001...but I can say it definetely added a greater element to their music.

But still....one of the greatest rock bands of all time...I don't know man, they're just the rawest most innovative group that could ever come out...ever!!!! Not to mention, no other band has that type of chemistry like they do. I've been a fan of theirs for about 13 years now.

Dead End
12-26-08, 12:38 PM
To their argument, they've been around since the early nineties so that really doesn't make them nu-metal by any means.

Um, so has Korn, so your argument means nothing.


BTW....playin hair metal used to get your ass beat back in '94-'97 LOL

TheT Organization
12-26-08, 12:47 PM
Um, so has Korn, so your argument means nothing.
BTW....playin hair metal used to get your ass beat back in '94-'97 LOL

yeah...looking back, that period of time was just weird. But it definetely produced alot of great music.

Korn definetely were doing their own thing though. The Nu-metal label was just another corporate media classification like grunge and alternative.


They definetely fell off after Follow the Leader though. But around that time too..I also stopped listening to that and got more into hardcore (old Victory, Epitaph, Dischord, SST, etc.)

:laugh:


By 1994, hair metal was a fukking memory. And by the time I was in high school in 1998, it was just a joke!

rapandhiphopfan
12-26-08, 12:58 PM
Nu metal is the worst thing ever.


At least hair metal was funny and kind of slick for the times in retrospect. Because it birthed Exodus, Megadeth, Venom, Cro-Mags, and all of those other LA metal bands that would pave the way for hardcore in the 90s.

Nu metal is just garbage. The soundtrack of a bunch of corn husking fat losers from Iowa who hit each other over the with flourescent light bulbs playing backyard wrestling who idoloize grown men wearing makeup and masks rapping about how many energy drinks and vicodins they consume.

Co-Sign.

rapandhiphopfan
12-26-08, 01:18 PM
This genre was a successor of another genre name grunge. (which wasn't that great either, except for a few bands).

TheT Organization
12-26-08, 01:25 PM
This genre was a successor of another genre name grunge. (which wasn't that great either, except for a few bands).


Grunge was the kick in the ass that rock needed!!!!


Besides Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam...you had Screaming Trees, The Pixes, Sugar (with Bob Mould of Husker Du fame), Green Apple Quickstep, Dig, The Dambuilders, That Dog, Veruca Salt, Catherine Wheel, Belly, Primus, and alot more bands that had a heavy sound...but weren't exactly heavy. I could go on and on about this forever.

Also, that's when Punk gained it most mainstream following...but by the end of the nineties, when the media machine changed, all of this great music got channeled into more crappier versions of itself that appealed to wide audiences (like Limp Bizkit, Blink 182) that were more image based.

Once that got exploited, the edge just left rock.
I just attribute it to the success of Nirvana...and when they really blew up that opened the doors for alot more of these type of rock bands to get signed by major labels. All of those bands I mentioned would of never been signed now in this climate.

TheT Organization
12-26-08, 01:35 PM
Also, Limp Bizkit were responsible for three things that phucked up rock heavy....


1. They blew up off of payola. Radio stations were being payed to play "Shallow" and "Counterfeit off of three dolla bill y'all. Radio stations weren't being forced or coerced into playing Nirvana or Soundgarden because there was already such a high demand for what they were doing....record labels and radio were forced to cave in to their demands to reflect their huge fukkin following!

2. Then interscope pushed "Faith", the George Michael cover and that was eventually what they blew up off of. Not really that original.

Orgy came out with the same formula after "Stitches" failed to go anywhere. So they released their cover of New Order's "Blue Monday".

Alien Ant Farm didn't have any success with their first single "Movies", so they released their cover of Michael Jackson's "Smooth Criminal" as a single.


See the trend?

By doing this, they really contributed to the industry dumbing down effect where a horrible band can pass off an album of crappy songs as long as they have a cover of an already famous song to get them off the runway.

3. The horrible string of Rap-Metal bands they produced in their wake around 1998-2002. The same formula came into play with punk...


By the end of that time, both genres were former shells of themselves.

rapandhiphopfan
12-26-08, 01:48 PM
Grunge was the kick in the ass that rock needed!!!!


Besides Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam...you had Screaming Trees, The Pixes, Sugar (with Bob Mould of Husker Du fame), Green Apple Quickstep, Dig, The Dambuilders, That Dog, Veruca Salt, Catherine Wheel, Belly, Primus, and alot more bands that had a heavy sound...but weren't exactly heavy. I could go on and on about this forever.

Also, that's when Punk gained it most mainstream following...but by the end of the nineties, when the media machine changed, all of this great music got channeled into more crappier versions of itself that appealed to wide audiences (like Limp Bizkit, Blink 182) that were more image based.

Once that got exploited, the edge just left rock.
I just attribute it to the success of Nirvana...and when they really blew up that opened the doors for alot more of these type of rock bands to get signed by major labels. All of those bands I mentioned would of never been signed now in this climate.

Sadly grunge was also the one responsible for ruining rock as well by launching these horrible trends in rock and not to mention destroy a great band (Metallica) that band died in a shameful, horrible death by releasing St. Anger.

I Only like a few bands from that era, the rest of the 90's alternative era just plain sucked.

Dead End
12-26-08, 01:56 PM
Sadly grunge was also the one responsible for ruining rock as well by launching these horrible trends in rock and not to mention destroy a great band (Metallica) that band died in a shameful, horrible death by releasing St. Anger.
I Only like a few bands from that era, the rest of the 90's alternative era just plain sucked.

wtf are you talking about? st. anger came out over a decade after grunge's heyday and has nothing to with that.

i can understand if you were talking about Load and Reload, but St. Anger?

rapandhiphopfan
12-26-08, 02:02 PM
wtf are you talking about? st. anger came out over a decade after grunge's heyday and has nothing to with that.
i can understand if you were talking about Load and Reload, but St. Anger?

St. Anger was metallica transformation into nu metal.

Disgusting.

yaga
12-26-08, 02:41 PM
St. Anger was metallica transformation into nu metal.

Interesting. I f*cking love that album, by the way.

rapandhiphopfan
12-26-08, 03:36 PM
Interesting. I f*cking love that album, by the way.


I Hated it, it was a mess.

TheT Organization
12-26-08, 04:22 PM
wtf are you talking about? st. anger came out over a decade after grunge's heyday and has nothing to with that.
i can understand if you were talking about Load and Reload, but St. Anger?


I was about to say this but you beat me to it.

shaolinshadowboxing
12-26-08, 10:26 PM
Nu metal is the worst thing ever.


At least hair metal was funny and kind of slick for the times in retrospect. Because it birthed Exodus, Megadeth, Venom, Cro-Mags, and all of those other LA metal bands that would pave the way for hardcore in the 90s.

Nu metal is just garbage. The soundtrack of a bunch of corn husking fat losers from Iowa who hit each other over the with flourescent light bulbs playing backyard wrestling who idoloize grown men wearing makeup and masks rapping about how many energy drinks and vicodins they consume.

Hair metal birthed Megadeth? :blink: I don't believe that.

Dead End
12-26-08, 11:38 PM
Hair metal birthed Megadeth? :blink: I don't believe that.

Cro-mAgs? venom? goddamnn, can't believe i missed that post....smh. dude has some things wrong. :laugh:

MercuryHayes
12-27-08, 01:08 AM
Nu Metal gets a bad rap because of limp bizkit


but if anything its the most innovative genre in a long ass while


no one was incorporating hiphop into metal on a consistant basis, so say what you want about korn but if you cant appreciate the bridge in a song like freak on a leash i dont know what to say.

people remember the copycats....the primer 55's but forget about sevendust.


Deftones stopped being numetal when white pony came out and have since been one of the best bands to come out in a long ass time.

TheT Organization
12-27-08, 02:44 AM
Cro-mAgs? venom? goddamnn, can't believe i missed that post....smh. dude has some things wrong. :laugh:


I meant to say indirectly.....

Of course it wasn't a direct result. None of those bands were in the same league as Motley Crue, Stryper, RATT, that garbage. Hells no, I figured that the way I said that in that post would be misinterpreted.


I'll clear that up...

I was just saying that because those bands were around before and at the same time, that bands like the ones I mentioned gained a large following...simply because they were real...if you want to consider bands of the like as anti-hair metal (or as Dave Mustaine of Megadeth/Metallica said in an interview when he was still with Metallica "Gay Los Angeles Music")...because they didn't wear make-up and snakeskin suits!


Yeah...it doesn't sound too right in retrospect, I worded that kind of wrong but damn, this is a good topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I could go on and on about this for a while....I'm a music nerd. :hmm:

TheT Organization
12-27-08, 02:49 AM
dbl post.

rapandhiphopfan
12-27-08, 10:42 AM
Nu Metal gets a bad rap because of limp bizkit


but if anything its the most innovative genre in a long ass while


no one was incorporating hiphop into metal on a consistant basis, so say what you want about korn but if you cant appreciate the bridge in a song like freak on a leash i dont know what to say.

people remember the copycats....the primer 55's but forget about sevendust.


Deftones stopped being numetal when white pony came out and have since been one of the best bands to come out in a long ass time.

Wrong.

Nu Metal is a horrendous genre that should never be revived, it is the disco of modern rock.

DAREALBIGMEECH
12-27-08, 04:30 PM
Screamo is worse than nu metal

BreakCanon
12-27-08, 09:12 PM
I wouldn't call it the worst. That award probably goes to that progressive rock they were vomitting out in the 70's. If I had the choice of suffering in the musical purgatory of the mid to late 90's listening to Limp Bizket, Korn, Papa Roach, or any of the others, or burning in hell listening to Journey, Genesis, Rush, and Yes, I would pick nu-metal.