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Duchyss
06-29-02, 03:50 PM
The Promised Land by Nicholas Lemann. I've actually read it 3 times. But right now I'm working on a project about the History of the Projects in Chicago. This book has actually insight on how people came from the south and moved to Chicago. The projects use to be decent before the mayors carelessness and gangs took over. The book is good as hell.

shalom
06-29-02, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Duchyss
The Promised Land by Nicholas Lemann. I've actually read it 3 times. But right now I'm working on a project about the History of the Projects in Chicago. This book has actually insight on how people came from the south and moved to Chicago. The projects use to be decent before the mayors carelessness and gangs took over. The book is good as hell.

I'm from Cabrini Green...are you from any projects in the Chi.

Un Amor

Shalom

Duchyss
06-29-02, 04:27 PM
I grew up in Bronzeville right down the street from the Wells. But I spent alot of time in Stateway. I grew up in the hood.

shalom
06-29-02, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Duchyss
I grew up in Bronzeville right down the street from the Wells. But I spent alot of time in Stateway. I grew up in the hood.

LOL...Stateway Gardens looks like a royal mess right now...I haven't heard of Bronzeville but I definitely know about the Ida B's...

Matter of fact, there was a shooting the other day at the Greens. Them muthafukkas built a police station in the middle of the hood but cats are still merking each other...

*shaked head*

Un Amor

Shalom

Duchyss
06-29-02, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by shalom


LOL...Stateway Gardens looks like a royal mess right now...I haven't heard of Bronzeville but I definitely know about the Ida B's...

Matter of fact, there was a shooting the other day at the Greens. Them muthafukkas built a police station in the middle of the hood but cats are still merking each other...

*shaked head*

Un Amor

Shalom

Bronzeville isn't a project it's what they call the neighborhood. Like it starts at 51st in King Drive to like Dunbar. I grew up in a Brownstone than I moved to Highland/South Shore, on the west side of 68th in Jefffrey. Chicago gangs are F*cked up. Every block on the eastside got different gangs. BDs , 4s, GD's, that got it all over there.

shalom
06-29-02, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Duchyss
Chicago gangs are F*cked up. Every block on the eastside got different gangs. BDs , 4s, GD's, that got it all over there.

I thought the gang problem died down...

The sad part is that you have young cats who don't understand the game and shoot anything they see.

Un Amor

Shalom

Duchyss
06-29-02, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by shalom


I thought the gang problem died down...

The sad part is that you have young cats who don't understand the game and shoot anything they see.

Un Amor

Shalom

They're gettin' frustrated, especially in areas where its alot of n*ggas, cause they ain't makin' money. I went to 13 funerals in 2000 including my brothers. I use to out there with them bastards, but I grew up, it's a shame what a waste of talent.

shalom
06-29-02, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Duchyss
They're gettin' frustrated, especially in areas where its alot of n*ggas, cause they ain't makin' money.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't give a fukk if you have beef with me, as long as you know how to make me some money and vice versa, and if the respect is there, then its all love...

But these cats have to shoot each other like some fukkin idiots...We need some leaders to shed some light to these cats...at lease someone with influence and not some bullshyt...but you can't find those types today.

Un Amor

Shalom

Duchyss
06-29-02, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by shalom


EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't give a fukk if you have beef with me, as long as you know how to make me some money and vice versa, and if the respect is there, then its all love...

But these cats have to shoot each other like some fukkin idiots...We need some leaders to shed some light to these cats...at lease someone with influence and not some bullshyt...but you can't find those types today.

Un Amor

Shalom

Alot of them are out there tryin' to make money, can't knock to hustle, but alot of them are careless. They need to look beyond the block. Hustlin' for an outfit, I laugh at them sometimes. Some of them don't have to be out there but they chose to. It's sad. I try to talk to the females but some of them don't listen.

shalom
06-29-02, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Duchyss


Alot of them are out there tryin' to make money, can't knock to hustle, but alot of them are careless. They need to look beyond the block. Hustlin' for an outfit, I laugh at them sometimes. Some of them don't have to be out there but they chose to. It's sad. I try to talk to the females but some of them don't listen.

Yeah...my cousin was one of them cats who hustled but didn't have to. I mean, this cat used to get gear before they even came out and the flyest ones at that...

This cat had to move to out of state because of some beef...I don't think we can walk free on his block anymore. I know alot of cats who can't walk on their own block because they shot some cat.

And don't let me get on the females...You just have to allow them to learn through mistakes and experiences...They'll learn the hard way, believe that.

Un Amor

Shalom

Duchyss
06-29-02, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by shalom


Yeah...my cousin was one of them cats who hustled but didn't have to. I mean, this cat used to get gear before they even came out and the flyest ones at that...

This cat had to move to out of state because of some beef...I don't think we can walk free on his block anymore. I know alot of cats who can't walk on their own block because they shot some cat.

And don't let me get on the females...You just have to allow them to learn through mistakes and experiences...They'll learn the hard way, believe that.

Un Amor

Shalom

Sometimes people feel like they got something to prove. The path of self-destruction, it's fu*cked up. Been down that path. I know about not being able to go certain places, hittin' certain blocks. My ex boyfriend got shot while I was in the car with him, people thought I would stop living with him, please I was being dumb. One time he didn't come home for a week. My girl> the freeloader was up in the apartment. We heard guns shots and someone running up the stairs, he come in talking about people was after him and he wanted me to be safe so he didn't come home. All these females who want thugs can have' em. I enjoyed my life to much to be dodging bullets. People wouldn't believe half of the sh*t I went through in a 3 year period and that family had money but I was felt like I had to prove how ghetto and gangsta I was. But I'm still tell these girls but it's their chose.

shalom
06-29-02, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Duchyss


Sometimes people feel like they got something to prove. The path of self-destruction, it's fu*cked up. Been down that path. I know about not being able to go certain places, hittin' certain blocks. My ex boyfriend got shot while I was in the car with him, people thought I would stop living with him, please I was being dumb. One time he didn't come home for a week. My girl> the freeloader was up in the apartment. We heard guns shots and someone running up the stairs, he come in talking about people was after him and he wanted me to be safe so he didn't come home. All these females who want thugs can have' em. I enjoyed my life to much to be dodging bullets. People wouldn't believe half of the sh*t I went through in a 3 year period and that family had money but I was felt like I had to prove how ghetto and gangsta I was. But I'm still tell these girls but it's their chose.

Oh damn...I meant that he couldn't walk through certain blocks...I can still go through the hood because I had nothing to do with it. Dude shot someone in the same set, Gangsta Disciples, but it would had been different if it was a rival gang...

Duch, let these girls do them. Sometimes female love the excitement and drama that goes along with the bullshyt...You can't save them...\

This girl in high school who I used to have a crush for dated some cat who gave her a black eye and mistreated her. This broad fought some other chick because he fukked her, along with two other broads. She's fukkin stupid thinking she was going to save him...It didn't matter to me because dude isn't even half the man I am...

I'm too old for the dumb shyt...

Un Amor

Shalom

cbrezi
06-30-02, 02:27 AM
just read "the alienist" by caleb carr. it was ok.
"corelli's mandolin" by louis de bernieres. good book about the island of cephallonia during ww2.

right now i'm reading "angela's ashes" by frank mccourt. its ok so far i just hate his writing style.

Duchyss
06-30-02, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by cbrezi
just read "the alienist" by caleb carr. it was ok.
"corelli's mandolin" by louis de bernieres. good book about the island of cephallonia during ww2.

right now i'm reading "angela's ashes" by frank mccourt. its ok so far i just hate his writing style.

if you watch the movie, you'll appreciate the book. ( Angela's Ashes). The book gives more detail.

cbrezi
07-05-02, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Duchyss


if you watch the movie, you'll appreciate the book. ( Angela's Ashes). The book gives more detail.

i haven't seen the movies made about either of those books.

right now i'm reading The Jungle by upton sinclair

shyningstarr
08-03-02, 08:05 AM
Right now I'm reading

Sacred Woman: A Guide to Healing the Feminine Body, Mind, and Spirit

by Queen Afua

Yum Girl
08-04-02, 11:40 PM
I'm reading the third book in the Left Behind series "Nicolae"....oooh deep...a must read ya'll!

AnotherGirl
08-16-02, 08:30 PM
Online Investing for Dummies 2nd edition from the "For Dummies" series...

and a comprehensive guide to written Russian book... which is more like a written skills exercise workbook...

kaydk
08-17-02, 08:45 AM
"Cheaters" by Eric Jerome Dickey

Yasif
08-17-02, 04:08 PM
"A Seperate Peace" by Knowles

Delch
09-12-02, 07:28 AM
just done with 'desert flower' waris dirie
now reading 'the dark-eyed girls' juddith lennox

PRINCE HAKEEM
09-12-02, 09:48 AM
Have Gun Will Travel - Damn some shyt in this book is funny as hell.

Pimp Juices
09-12-02, 03:36 PM
I just finished B-More Careful....It was good but very sad.

guvno0or
09-15-02, 08:46 PM
the story of britain; a people's history by roy strong.

half way through, very long book but its good.

The Ill Mechanism
09-16-02, 03:40 PM
i just started readin' "the hunt for zero point" by nick cook. it's about tha governments sorta-secret tests w/ flyin' saucers. it's not some far left all theory & no fact $#!t. this cat nick cook writes for janes, tha bible when it comes to defensive weoponry. he talks about reputable companies who have worked w/ tha government to make these things & what they've done to keep tha $#!t secret (surprise, surprise). i'm still readin' it but so far it's mad interestin'.

i plan to read some fiction sometime. it's just that when you work around all these books dealin' with all kinds of subject matta you kinda feel a responsibility to read some of this stuff & decide for yourself.

The Ill Mechanism
09-16-02, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by PRINCE HAKEEM
Have Gun Will Travel - Damn some shyt in this book is funny as hell.

that book was ill yo. tha parts when their quotin' rbx is kinda funny.

NME_HPK
10-10-02, 11:57 AM
I just finished 1984 and now I'm reading Style Master General-The Life of Dondi White.

JDiZzUl
10-12-02, 12:15 PM
Just Finished:
The Upper Room by Mary Monroe
The Broke Diaries by Angela Nissel
Please Please Please by Renee Swindle
Not A Day Goes By by E. Lynn Harris
Amanda's Wedding by Jenny Colgan

About to start:
The Second Silence by Eileen Goudge
Singing In The Comeback Choir by Bebe Moore Campbell

cbrezi
10-12-02, 11:22 PM
cows, pigs, wars and witches by marvin harris
a midwife's tale by laurel thatcher ulrich
are'n't i a woman by deborah gray white


all for school

Afrrikan Rennaisance
10-25-02, 12:16 PM
i'm busy with "The Right to Write" by Julian Cameron.

Sexonthebeach
11-06-02, 09:21 AM
Right now I'm reading Isle of Dogs by Patricia Cornwell.

topazjewels
11-18-02, 02:24 PM
Bad Boy Brawling brown by walter mosley

ChoklutFyre
11-19-02, 08:25 AM
"White Oleander"

Knoe Huther
11-22-02, 05:57 AM
"Makes me wanna Holler" by Nathan McCall

Xenos~Ethos
11-27-02, 06:08 PM
"The Selfish Gene" By Richard Dawkins.

guvno0or
11-28-02, 08:45 AM
history of western philosophy- bertrand russell

synapseNY
11-30-02, 03:56 AM
'The Art of Deception' - Kevin Mitnick

Mr. Official
12-02-02, 01:37 AM
Raising Fences: A black man's love story

Good ish so far.

Mr. Official
12-02-02, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by RivieraIII
* "Race Matters" by Dr. Cornel West
Black, Whites, EVERYONE should read this. VERY INTELLIGENT debate on race issues, WITHOUT prejudice and fear of laying down the TRUTH.
5 mics.

* "The Color Of Water" - James McBride
A Black Man's Tribute to His White/Jewish mother. Maaaad DEEP but good fun nonetheless.
5 mics

* "Q, The Autobiography Of Quincy Jones" - Quincy Jones
If you really wanna know MUSIC and PRODUCTION, check this one out...
4.5 mics.

* "Kaffir Boy" - Mark Mathanabe
Real, serious depiction of the Apartheid madness.
4.5 mics

* "I May Not Get There With You, The True Martin Luther King, Jr." - Michael Eric Dyson
REALISTIC biography of Martin Luther King, Jr (none of that "he was perfect" sh1t). Powerful and intelligent.
4.5 mics

* "The Measure Of A Man, A Spiritual Autobiography" - Sydney Poitiers
Priceless, very profound autobiography
5 mics

* "Black Color, White Wealth: The Search For Power" - Claud Anderson
Lots of financial infos for minorities...
4 mics


I found it funny that you rate them in mics, but race matters and the MLK book is great. I've been wanting to read the sydney poiteir joint.

* "The Home That Race Built" - Cornel West
Reading it now. GREAT so far...

Mr. Official
12-02-02, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by LoveThat
I just finished the latest book by bell hooks entitled Communion: The Female Search for Love. It was excellent!! She has written two other books about love called All About Love and Salvation: Black People and Love. I'm reading those now.

I read all about love and salvation and they truly changed my life. Especially as a young black man it gave me an idea of what real love is. I made a post about it, but no one replied.

Let me know what you think about it, and is Communion any good, b/c i kind of avoided that one.

Xenos~Ethos
12-03-02, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by synapseNY
'The Art of Deception' - Kevin Mitnick

Ahh, the O.G. of hackers.

Be Flat
12-04-02, 11:01 PM
I just finnished the Beach... I already saw the movie first.
THe book was better.

NYC Rebel
12-05-02, 01:11 PM
"Go tell it on the mountain"- James Baldwin

VulgarTheClown
12-09-02, 12:37 AM
Now reading:
1984 - George Orwell (damn good book)

In the middle of:
The Return of the King (3rd in LotR) - J.R.R. Tolkien
Cannery Row - John Steinbeck
A book full of stuff by Edgar Allen Poe
A few others I can't think of...

Glancing at:
Journals - Kurt Cobain
Two Screenplays: Clerks and Chasing Amy - Kevin Smith

Looking to pick up:
Fight Club and Survivor - Chuck Palahniuk

Good books I've read for school:
The Metamorphosis - Kafka
Night - Ellie Weisel
The Crucible - Arthur Miller

NP: System of a Down - I-E-A-I-A-I-O

CalvinButter
12-14-02, 11:58 PM
- Chuck Palahniuk

author of Fight Club, very intelligent and humorous...

CalvinButter
12-14-02, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by VulgarTheClown
Now reading:
Looking to pick up:
Fight Club and Survivor - Chuck Palahniuk




My bad, didnt even read the post above me...Survivor is good so far...read Choke too, that one is great...

VulgarTheClown
12-15-02, 03:04 PM
Yeah, I intend to, that and Lullaby, but I'm trying to find them in Hardcover editions..

Xenos~Ethos
12-16-02, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by CalvinButter
My bad, didnt even read the post above me...Survivor is good so far...read Choke too, that one is great...

Choke is an effin' great book!

Stylus
12-17-02, 07:12 AM
Hey guys, just found this post - enjoying all the recommendations.

If you can all be bothered, can u type a little bit about the book, i.e. what its about, if its good etc

I have read a few books lately:

"Year Of Wonders" by Geraldine Brooks
= Graphic and visceral, but moving and intelligent story about the a piece of plague ridden cloth that tears through a small city outside London, focuses on the plight of a servant - an incredible strong woman, based on real events. Really good stuff.

"On The Road" by Jack Keroac
= Finally got around to reading this one, mad rambling prose style, about the beat wandering of two men, looking for something....anything....funny and moving, with a real sense of sadness. I enjoyed it.

"Maestro" by Peter Goldsworthy
= Really short, but enjoyable book about growing up in Darwin, Australia, about a young boy with musical parents who send him off to study piano under the reign of a WW2 survivor Herr Keller, really moving and with a great sense of ironic humour. I, gotta admit I shed a few tears at the end of this one, I'm a softy. Muaaahaha.
;)

now I am gonna read a book my mums recommended, called "The Pilot's Wife" by Anita Shrieve.

LADYHOOPS
12-19-02, 09:45 PM
I'm surprised at how many ppl mentioned 1984, I dunno why.
I'm just starting 1984 (for fun).
For school now, i'm reading:
->A Clockwork Orange -Burgess (we should all know this)
->The Children of Men -P.D. James (set in the future... there is sudden and complete infertility & it focuses on a few in the community who go against how the government is dealing with all this)
->A Handmaid's Tale -Margret Atwood (also set in the future, another book about those defying control)
->Just finished Brave New World. This book is great no matter what age you are, IMO. Check it out if you haven't.

Just curious, what do you guys think of 'The Catcher and the Rye'?