Just how important is breakfast?

[acri1]

Background: I've been hitting the gym pretty hard the last couple of months, and I'm slowly seeing results. I'm not trying to "bulk up" or lose weight (I'm not fat), I just want more muscle and less fat like most people.

One thing I never do, though, is eat breakfast. Mainly because I can't seem to get up early enough, and I'm not that hungry in the morning anyway. On the weekend I'm usually hungover and don't get up till noon.

Typically I'll skip breakfast, eat a relatively small lunch, workout after work, and then eat a large dinner. Weekends are pretty much random, but like I said I'm usually hungover Saturday and Sunday morning.

How bad is this?

[JackDaCrack]

The only way it helps me is that I don't get distracted by hunger before lunch. That made it harder to study or work.

[andre patton]

skipping breakfast is a terrible idea regardless of what your goals are.

you need to constantly feed your muscles protein if you want them to grow.

[NatiboyB]

skipping breakfast is a terrible idea regardless of what your goals are.

you need to constantly feed your muscles protein if you want them to grow.


Not really true. The idea of Breakfast is to break-fast. Your body doesn't need as much protein and overall calories as we may think unless you want a surplus of _______muscle, fat....


There are so many different diets that you can do whatever you want and if you see results it works. You could go on a sprite and oreo diet and if you lose weight and feel good and your lipid levels check out you are good.

The point is. Do whatever feels natural to you. Don't over think something so simple as feeding your body. If the caveman could do it so could we.

[Spliff Star]

@ acri

Don't skip breakfast. It's the jump start of the day and kicks off your metabolism.

I suggest you read some of the stickies in this forum
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/forums/diet-nutrition-chat/

Start with "Basics of Bodybuilding Nutrition"

Very very useful information. Can be applied to any form training.

Not really true. The idea of Breakfast is to break-fast. Your body doesn't need as much protein and overall calories as we may think unless you want a surplus of _______muscle, fat....

There are so many different diets that you can do whatever you want and if you see results it works. You could go on a sprite and oreo diet and if you lose weight and feel good and your lipid levels check out you are good.

Are you just saying this to feel good about your own eating methods since you're on that whole military steez or do you have widely accepted tests, articles, and overall proof of this claim? Its easy to go against the grain.

To touch on diets... there's a lot of diets but most of them are fads and bull****. Dieting to burn fat is just calorie/protein/carb management. I say "dieting to burn fat" because the term "losing weight" can mean anything. Smh @ these shock diets. Detoxing? Green tea only? 2 small meals? meats only?, no carbs? Lol gtfo. The diets you should be payin attention to are the ones you hear about in the winter.

But cmon now, an oreo sprite diet? :laugh:

[NatiboyB]

Are you just saying this to feel good about your own eating methods since you're on that whole military steez or do you have widely accepted tests, articles, and overall proof of this claim? Its easy to go against the grain.

To touch on diets... there's a lot of diets but most of them are fads and bull****. Dieting to burn fat is just calorie/protein/carb management. I say "dieting to burn fat" because the term "losing weight" can mean anything. Smh @ these shock diets. Detoxing? Green tea only? 2 small meals? meats only?, no carbs? Lol gtfo. The diets you should be payin attention to are the ones you hear about in the winter.

But cmon now, an oreo sprite diet? :laugh:[/QUOTE]




Yes I have quite alot of data. Plus let's just be simple here. Think back to the cave man and the people of the past. And even in some of todays places. People don't need to eat 3 meals a day. All that breakfast is the most important meal and speeds up the metabolisim stuff is just something that we have been told is good.

It's pretty much straight fact. It doesn't matter what you eat or when you eat it's how many calories you burn. Calories in vs calories out. Unless your goals are to have an excess.

Check out the Warrior diet (which I follow), The whole Intermittent Fasting idea and all of that. These types of diets have been used through history. Grazing all day and then having one big meal at night or just drinking water all day and eating a big meal at night. Your body is naturally meant to be more alert without food. You ever notice people tend to get tired when they eat? Thats the brain telling the body that it doesn't have to hunt anymore and that it can relax.

Results for you >>>>>>> Any diet you can use. As I said if you are in better shape then me and feel better about your self eating oreos and sprite and your lipid levels are good who am I to say you are wrong.

And as far as the military "steez" they preach excess carbs for energy when in fact I have noticed Fat= more energy. Things like nuts, canola oil are better for helping keep one energized.


And it's a fact your body doesn't need 2,000 calories or 200gr of protein a day unless you want something in excess. Once your body becomes used to 1400 calories a day and 120 of which being protein your body since it utilizes the macros better does more with less. So instead of only using 70% of the 200 grams of protein and wasting the rest it will use 100% of the 120 grams of protein for muscle recovery.

[Citrine]

I used to skip breakfast and feel horrible for the rest of the day when I was at school or get hungry faster...

Now before I go to work I at least eat a small amount of cereal so that I won't pass out at work, then when I get to work for my break I usually eat yogurt or some fruit...

It helps get me through the day until lunchtime...

[Spliff Star]

Check out the Warrior diet (which I follow), The whole Intermittent Fasting idea and all of that. These types of diets have been used through history. Grazing all day and then having one big meal at night or just drinking water all day and eating a big meal at night.

So let me get this straight... You fast during the day and slow your metabolism like all hell. Then, after your workout when you're catabolic beyond all belief, you binge and then lie down and go to sleep?

:hmm:

Some searches on warrior diet...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107145891&highlight=Warrior%27s+Diet
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6921481&highlight=Warrior%27s+Diet
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5671921&highlight=Warrior%27s+Diet
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=414716&highlight=Warrior+diet

I mean damn. I can easily see you losing weight, but the muscle you lose is not something I think anyone would want to set out for...

With nothing eaten all day your workouts must lack something serious.

[XxLizizcorexX]

On the Slim Fast diet you replace breakfast with a Slimfast shake or Slimfast meal bar. That way, you always have time to eat (because it is important). I don't know all the logistics of it, but basically, you want to get something in your system so that you
(1) curb cravings to eat junk throughout the day (like people mentioned)
and (2) get some nutrients in you too keep the energy up. You'll need it for the smaller excercise you do all day like walking, walking stairs, and lifting.

[NippleTits]

it depends on how you feel.

wake up early and eat breakfast for a week.. see how your body reacts and how you can manipulate your energy...if it doesnt work for you then go back to skipping breakfast.


there is no 'One' way to do things. it should be about how you feel

[NippleTits]

With nothing eaten all day your workouts must lack something serious.


you do eat. you just limit yourself to what you NEED as opposed to gorging on what you want. **edit** during the undereating phase

[Spliff Star]

you do eat. you just limit yourself to what you NEED as opposed to gorging on what you want. **edit** during the undereating phase
I'm sorry, but the way this diet would have me eating theres no way I'd have what I NEED before a workout.

IMO this diet is for women or for people wanting to see quick losses, regardless if it includes a lot of muscle.

[NippleTits]

hey, do you bro

[Kswizzle15]

i rarely eat breakfast and im great ...i think...breakfast is overated b

[angel_baby]

i wouldn't skip breakfast.. i've lived with professional athletes and their chefs. let me tell you the lectures i have heard when they haven't eaten breakfast!

i've also fasted (ramadan) and even though you go a whole day without eating, you're still waking up just before sun-up to have breakfast.

[NatiboyB]

So let me get this straight... You fast during the day and slow your metabolism like all hell. Then, after your workout when you're catabolic beyond all belief, you binge and then lie down and go to sleep?
:hmm:
Some searches on warrior diet...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107145891&highlight=Warrior%27s+Diet
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6921481&highlight=Warrior%27s+Diet
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5671921&highlight=Warrior%27s+Diet
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=414716&highlight=Warrior+diet
I mean damn. I can easily see you losing weight, but the muscle you lose is not something I think anyone would want to set out for...
With nothing eaten all day your workouts must lack something serious.


You didn't check out the warrior diet then. You graze all day until before sleep. You eat veggies, some fruit and protein pre and still have some choco milk or something post workout which is usually right before your meal. Because in ancient times after the hunters would make there kill they would eat. (Hunting+killing beast)=workout. All day long they would eat natural things on the way to find there game.

All that metabolisim stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be. Fact is calories in vs calories out= results. If you want an excess you eat more.

Plus you also went to a bodybuilding site where they aren't actually as caring about ones health persay. (I used to be into BB before I found Crossfit.)

As I said your body does some amazing things when in "starvation" meaning it utilizes more of the nutrients better.

Also why do you think the people who only eat one time a day tend to live longer lives on average. Monks sometimes goes days without eating period. Health and physical goals sometimes cancel each other out.

[BlackApollo]

@ acri

Don't skip breakfast. It's the jump start of the day and kicks off your metabolism.

I suggest you read some of the stickies in this forum
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/forums/diet-nutrition-chat/

Start with "Basics of Bodybuilding Nutrition"

Very very useful information. Can be applied to any form training.



Are you just saying this to feel good about your own eating methods since you're on that whole military steez or do you have widely accepted tests, articles, and overall proof of this claim? Its easy to go against the grain.

To touch on diets... there's a lot of diets but most of them are fads and bull****. Dieting to burn fat is just calorie/protein/carb management. I say "dieting to burn fat" because the term "losing weight" can mean anything. Smh @ these shock diets. Detoxing? Green tea only? 2 small meals? meats only?, no carbs? Lol gtfo. The diets you should be payin attention to are the ones you hear about in the winter.

But cmon now, an oreo sprite diet? :laugh:

as a wrestler hes right

your muscles dont need nearly as much protein as were told they do

without sufficient cardio, much of the protein we take in can still be stored as body fat if not being used completely

most people only need 60-90gs daily, which can be achieved by just your 3 basic meals of the day.

Eat breakfast everyday. Your metabolism shuts down if your body thinks it’s starving. You will actually burn up to 20% more calories during the course of a day if you have breakfast. Remember, you either have breakfast, or you are breakfast. (Your body will take the necessary energy from muscles and organs.)
Eat five or six small meals per day instead of our traditional three meals per day. You eat less if you don’t go to the table starving! In addition, the body uses all of the energy as it comes in. None gets stored as fat.
Eat dinner early, and don’t make it your big meal of the day. You usually don’t have many activities after dinner so it is difficult to burn many of the calories that you just ate. All calories that remain at the end of the day are stored as fat.
Do not deprive yourself of water! A glass before each meal reduces your appetite.




Baked or grilled, not fried. Fat in cooking oils contain 9 calories per gram. These are extra calories that will be added to your food without providing any real nutrition. If you don’t like the way it tastes when baked or grilled, use seasoning to spice it up.
Skim milk, not whole milk. Whole milk is 4% butterfat. One glass of whole milk gives you as much fat as if you ate four slices of bacon. Two percent milk has had ½ of the butterfat removed, and skim milk has no butterfat at all.
Increase weight training. Muscle burns calories. The more muscular you become, the faster your metabolism burns calories.
Learn to make substitutions. For example, when having a baked potato, instead of butter, sour cream, and bacon bits (all loaded with calories), try plain yogurt and imitation bacon bits. Bottle of Gatorade = 220 calories. Bottle of water = 0 calories.
Long walks, everyday! Intense exercise, like wrestling or running, burns calories from carbohydrates or proteins. Fat is difficult to breakdown, and the process takes time. When you walk, the body is not rushed to provide energy. After the carbohydrates stored in the muscle tissue are exhausted, the body begins to breakdown pure fat to supply the energy needed for your walk. This usually begins after fifteen or twenty minutes.
Cut down on your junk food. A cup of ice cream instead of a bowl. A handful of chips instead of a bag. Less junk = Less calories.
Learn to recognize the difference between appetite and hunger. Infants know the difference. You can’t make a baby finish a bottle after it is full. Somehow during our childhood, the line becomes blurred. “Finish your dinner…or no desert!” “If you’re good, I’ll give you a candy bar!” Sometimes we use food as a reward. Sometimes we eat because we’re sad, happy, bored, or because it smells so good. Concentrate on learning to eat because you are hungry and your body needs fuel. Eat to live…don’t live to eat!
Take time to enjoy your meals. Your stomach has a gauge in it just like the gas tank in your car. The next time you fill up the car, look at the gauge when you start it up. It takes a while for the gauge to register full. Your body is the same way. If you inhale your food, you have often over eaten before you even realize that you were full. Do you remember Thanksgiving???
Cut down on protein. Your body uses protein for growth and repair. The American diet is usually centered around the meat dish. Americans usually get way too much protein. This is especially true for teens. The average wrestler needs only as much protein per day as is provided by one four ounce chicken breast. Remember, anything you don’t burn up today is stored by the body as fat; even perfectly good protein

[Stephano DiMera]

Breakfast: the only time of day where you can eat Frosted Flakes without getting strange looks. So yes, it is very important.

[Fuqwa? Fuq You.]

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