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The Bilingual Gringo
06-04-08, 05:07 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaUaK7ZYogGE&refer=home

General Motors Corp. said today it may drop its Hummer unit, as surging gasoline prices turn buyers away from the hulking sport-utility vehicles that generated profit for the automaker and criticism from environmentalists.

Hummer vehicles may be redesigned, or all or part of the division may be sold, GM said today. The company didn't say when it would make a decision.

The announcement adds to evidence of an end to the days of booming sales of fuel-thirsty SUVs as gasoline approaches $4 a gallon. U.S. sales for SUVs are down 10 percent this year, after rising 3.7 percent in 2007, spurring Detroit-based GM and Ford Motor Co. to pare production of what had been some of their most profitable lines of vehicles.

"With the gas prices where they are and the stigma of having such a large vehicle, I think most U.S. consumers would feel they are better off not having a Hummer,'' said Jesse Toprak, an analyst with Edmunds.com in Santa Monica, California. "Unless GM can make a much smaller version of the Hummer, I don't think it can be much more than a niche vehicle here.''

Hummer's H3 gets 14 miles per gallon in city driving, the same as a Chevrolet Tahoe SUV. By comparison, Toyota Motor Corp.'s Prius gets 48 mpg in city driving.

Deliveries for the smallest cars have jumped 33 percent this year.

Peak Sales

The surge in fuel costs represents "a structural change, not just a cyclical change,'' GM Chief Executive Officer Rick Wagoner told reporters today.

When GM acquired rights to the brand from privately held A.M. General LLC in late 1999 for an undisclosed sum, industry SUV sales were regularly rising more than 14 percent annually and gasoline prices were less than a third of today's prices.

Hummer sales peaked in 2006 at 71,524 units, before dropping 22 percent last year, according to Autodata Corp. Sales of the SUVs, which start at about $31,000 for the smaller H3 model, fell 36 percent this year in the first five months and were down 60 percent in May alone, according to a GM statement today.

In its first two years under GM, Hummer sold only the $140,000 H1, the five-ton SUV patterned after an all-terrain military vehicle and popularized by actor Arnold Schwarzenegger. The H1 and its successor, the smaller H2, both were too heavy to come under U.S. fuel-economy standards, GM spokesman Nick Richards said in an interview.

As governor of California, Schwarzenegger later began driving a Hummer that ran on hydrogen and another using biofuel as he focused his agenda on environmental measures.

Fuel-Consumption Issues

The automaker drew fire when it began marketing model Hummers as free toy giveaways in McDonald's Corp. children's meals in 2006. Groups including the Sierra Club said the promotion failed to teach children environmental responsibility.

Owners such as Vijay Verma, a member of the Carolina Hummer Owners Group and an H1 owner, said they were disappointed by GM's announcement.

"GM has lost the primary focus of the Hummer vehicles, which was to provide effective recreational use,'' he said in an interview. "Yes, you have fuel consumption issues, but there are a lot more vehicles that do more against the environment.''

Hummer sales jumped from 768 in 2001 to 19,581 in 2002 after the introduction of the H2, which was about 2,000 pounds lighter than the H1.

The H2 measures about 204 inches (518 centimeters) in length, compared with 222 inches for a Chevrolet Suburban SUV, though the Hummer is 1,400 pounds heavier.

Overseas Demand

"The good old days'' of improving sales of the SUVs each month are gone, said Greg Meyer, general manager of Hummer of Cincinnati in Ohio. "With the selling environment as it is, it's definitely been tougher.''

He said he was surprised by GM's announcement, and said a change in management or in the vehicle lineup could "really be a problem for us and our loyal customers.''

While Hummer sales have faltered on GM's home turf, consumers in markets overseas such as Japan, where GM recently introduced the brand, helped to boost sales 61 percent in the first three months to 2,463 units.

"There's a huge potential for Hummer in emerging markets,'' said Toprak of Edmunds.com. "It's still a status symbol in many countries, so that would be an aspect GM would miss.''

GM has Hummer assembly plants in Indiana, Louisiana, South Africa and Russia.

The automaker halted production of the original Hummer in 2006 as sales trickled to fewer than 100 annually, from a peak of 875 units. The plant in Mishawaka, Indiana, now only makes H2s.

GM has estimated the H2 model gets about 13 mpg on average.

kemyran
06-04-08, 09:01 PM
LOL @ anyone buying a Hummer right now.

Actually, LOL @ anyone buying a Hummer even when gas was cheaper. It was just a big, dumb SUV.

The Bilingual Gringo
06-04-08, 09:34 PM
I still would love to have an H1, but I think the rest are booty.

sarcastik01
06-05-08, 02:20 PM
GM is weird, they are actually paying to have the newest possible (not definite) hummer model featured in the new Transformers movie. What a waste...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/05/hummer-hx-appears-in-i-transformers-2-i/

Gentility
06-05-08, 02:39 PM
Americans will always love SUVs. they'll make a comeback when we can build them to be super fuel efficient.

The Bilingual Gringo
06-05-08, 06:12 PM
There is a bit of irony to this story however. They killed the EV1 to build SUV's and now look at things.

The Bilingual Gringo
06-05-08, 06:13 PM
There is a bit of irony to this story however. They killed the EV1 to build SUV's and now look at things.

luchini
06-06-08, 09:22 AM
a toyota highlander hybrid gets better gas mileage than a standard Corolla but it comes at a $10,000 premium

they just need to make the hybrid option more cost effective and SUV sales will go up again

beaniemac
06-06-08, 04:00 PM
LOL @ anyone buying a Hummer right now.

Actually, LOL @ anyone buying a Hummer even when gas was cheaper. It was just a big, dumb SUV.

LMAO @ anyone buying any SUV, unless u are using it for work purposes.

what I dont understand is after all these years, auto companies still haven't found a way to increase the mpg for cars yet. I mean most cars are in the 20-30 mpg, and its been that way for like 20 years. u would think they would have learned how to get cars to average like 40 mpg by now given that all other technology has gotten better in a car.

Logic86
06-06-08, 05:32 PM
SUV ain't dead Those Lexus RX 330 are real heavy in the Streets so are the Honda CR-V's

kemyran
06-06-08, 06:38 PM
LMAO @ anyone buying any SUV, unless u are using it for work purposes.
what I dont understand is after all these years, auto companies still haven't found a way to increase the mpg for cars yet. I mean most cars are in the 20-30 mpg, and its been that way for like 20 years. u would think they would have learned how to get cars to average like 40 mpg by now given that all other technology has gotten better in a car.
US automakers have slept on diesel powerplants here, but they're all the rage in Europe. You can get great MPG out of cars w/o all the hybrid wizardry and definitely w/o that hybrid price premium.

that_dozen
06-06-08, 06:58 PM
SUV ain't dead Those Lexus RX 330 are real heavy in the Streets so are the Honda CR-V's
i think we're speaking more of full size SUV. those crossovers - rav4, cr-v, murano, infiniti fx, highlander etc. - are based on sedans, therefore they're not feeling the effects of a tahoe, expedition, escalade, etc

AmmunitionVX
06-07-08, 11:39 AM
Thank God, I hate SUV's/Trucks, esp when they are in the fast lane and you can't see around them!!!!

rapandhiphopfan
06-07-08, 04:14 PM
Thank God, I hate SUV's/Trucks, esp when they are in the fast lane and you can't see around them!!!!

Wait for Large Hybrid and E85 SUV's soon.

at least their better than the stupid priuses.

NZA!
06-08-08, 01:21 PM
the only hummer i would get would be that original military quality one that could drive in water. anything else is just a gas guzzling van

CashmereThoughts
06-08-08, 02:08 PM
this signals the end of us auto makers. they all downsizing, they just bought hummer recently! got damn

seeg
06-08-08, 04:28 PM
US automakers have slept on diesel powerplants here, but they're all the rage in Europe. You can get great MPG out of cars w/o all the hybrid wizardry and definitely w/o that hybrid price premium.

Nah, they'd been bringing diesels over here if they could. It's this 50-state regulation bullshyt that's preventing them from doing so. GM and Ford have these things all over Europe, not to mention Chrysler/Mercedes with the CRDs.

FallBackSonn
06-08-08, 05:42 PM
I like SUV's...:(

beaniemac
06-08-08, 08:42 PM
US automakers have slept on diesel powerplants here, but they're all the rage in Europe. You can get great MPG out of cars w/o all the hybrid wizardry and definitely w/o that hybrid price premium.

what about a diesel car? I have seen some cars like a jetta that's diesel. how would that boost mileage? and if so, how does that work.

DaFyre
06-08-08, 09:35 PM
I don't really understand this as the people that can afford Hummers in the first place shouldn't even be concerned about gas prices.