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BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 12:25 PM
I read in the other thread somehow you think Em is close to Jada:laugh::laugh: real talk. Jada actually have classic songs something to me your boy don't have, yea he can spit but all that spitting and he unable to assemble more memorable verses than Jada. So I'm challenging you let the music speak for it self this thread can go on for day possibly weeks but Jada will be victorious.

WW3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=7B8fj5HkPSY&feature=related

Fucckin with the kiss you aint goin breathe/

I'll let you finish it you know the rest of the verse:laugh::laugh::laugh:

pop203
05-27-08, 12:27 PM
eminem wins but its madd close. eminem has a classic album and a pretty dope album, jadakiss doesn't even have a good album yet.

Cashen Saphe
05-27-08, 12:28 PM
Ummm, Shouldnt this be the other way around?

Lawrence
05-27-08, 12:28 PM
smh at u nikkas turnin sunzoo into a cyber celebrity

Shot 9 Times
05-27-08, 12:29 PM
I think Blubber Sparxxx "Deliverance" is better than any Eminem albumses

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 12:29 PM
I'm not convinced that Em is ranked higher than Jada he has more classics and in the end thats more important and this thread will show that

Jadan the Magishan
05-27-08, 12:29 PM
eminem wins but its madd close. eminem has a classic album and a pretty dope album, jadakiss doesn't even have a good album yet.

c/s 100%

Jadakiss most memorable work is with the LOX and other artists. His solo albums are garbage.

pop203
05-27-08, 12:31 PM
how come that kid sunzoo is called out whenever eminem is discussed? is he really the only eminem fan on SOHH?

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 12:31 PM
^ It don't matter he got more memorable verses and classic verses than Em

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 12:32 PM
how come that kid sunzoo is called out whenever eminem is discussed? is he really the only eminem fan on SOHH?

well you can post his music too, just let the music speak you scared, Jada got more memorable verses and classic verses I don't care what yall say I can debate this

freaking badass
05-27-08, 12:32 PM
jada's never released a solid cd. he fails trying to make too many club friendly tracks and for the ladies. Rabbit Run > anything Jada's ever done. he's the punchline king and he's in constant beast mode. IMO jada's best song was a damn skit, which is a shame. "Feel Me" n/h

pop203
05-27-08, 12:34 PM
well you can post his music too, just let the music speak you scared, Jada got more memorable verses and classic verses I don't care what yall say I can debate this

nah, not me. i definitly don't think i qualify as a eminem fan but i got ears, lol, he's iller than jadakiss. its close though.

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 12:35 PM
He still got more memorable verses and classic verses than Em don't talk about just put the music up stop talking about put the music up yall Em fans scared its more Em fans here than Jada fans so yall got me outnumbered.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dwbf9cU4LLE&feature=related

"I hope you aint tongue kissing your spouse"

Finish the verse you know you know it

theman080
05-27-08, 12:36 PM
i don't know, I think Em has a larger bulk of good material...but if you asked me to take one of them for ONE verse on ONE song right now...its Jada

Sunzoo aka LC
05-27-08, 12:36 PM
^ It don't matter he got more memorable verses and classic verses than Em

aight, since i'm bored, i'll play, but let me ask you this first

how much em material have you heard? do you even listen to em extensively (i don't think you do, but thats why i'm asking), cuz if not this whole thread is moot

i've listened to both since right around the time their careers started "happening" and i was a big jadakiss enthusiast until he dropped two albums way below his caliber as an artist, i feel like i can without bias, judge the two with about the same amount of knowledge...can you say the same?

and what exactly is the criteria for a classic verse? thats a very vague, subjective blanket you're throwing out there

ThA DeAdLy ArT
05-27-08, 12:37 PM
Honestly I think Em is iller from what I have heard....jada is dope too....i gotta hear more of his material...

but honestly Marshall Mathers, Rock bottom, Rabbit Run, if I get locked up tonight, renegade, the last hit....check those and re-compare...

Da Jungles
05-27-08, 12:41 PM
I read in the other thread somehow you think Em is close to Jada:laugh::laugh: real talk. Jada actually have classic songs something to me your boy don't have, yea he can spit but all that spitting and he unable to assemble more memorable verses than Jada. So I'm challenging you let the music speak for it self this thread can go on for day possibly weeks but Jada will be victorious.
WW3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=7B8fj5HkPSY&feature=related
Fucckin with the kiss you aint goin breathe/
I'll let you finish it you know the rest of the verse:laugh::laugh::laugh:
zshare?

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 12:43 PM
aight, since i'm bored, i'll play, but let me ask you this first

how much em material have you heard? do you even listen to em extensively (i don't think you do, but thats why i'm asking), cuz if not this whole thread is moot

i've listened to both since right around the time their careers started "happening" and i was a big jadakiss enthusiast until he dropped two albums way below his caliber as an artist, i feel like i can without bias, judge the two with about the same amount of knowledge...can you say the same?

and what exactly is the criteria for a classic verse? thats a very vague, subjective blanket you're throwing out there

I've heard alot of his material before he even got signed when he used to rhyme like Nas and Az and a classic verse and memorable verses its just what it say a classic verse and since you still aint posted an actual verse heres an example of what I mean


http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMM1uwT0cqA&feature=related

"Every check I deposit is just a new burner in the closet"

lol you sure you up for this?

Sunzoo aka LC
05-27-08, 12:45 PM
yo fam, i'll do it like this, since you wanna post up music, and specific verses, put up the song, put up which verse(s) are classic, then i'll find you one better

pop203
05-27-08, 12:45 PM
I've heard alot of his material before he even got signed when he used to rhyme like Nas and Az and a classic verse and memorable verses its just what it say a classic verse and since you still aint posted an actual verse heres an example of what I mean
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMM1uwT0cqA&feature=related
"Every check I deposit is just a new burner in the closet"
lol you sure you up for this?

you still haven't explained what you consider a "classic" verse. what makes a classic verse a classic verse? right now you're just talkin about your opinion.

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 12:49 PM
you still haven't explained what you consider a "classic" verse. what makes a classic verse a classic verse? right now you're just talkin about your opinion.

Its classic cuz its memorable thats the definition of classic, heres another example and this mixtape he was spitting head to head with BIG, classic

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z4KBRce2Oc4&feature=related

Sunzoo aka LC
05-27-08, 12:51 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7B8fj5HkPSY&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dwbf9cU4LLE&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMM1uwT0cqA&feature=related



aight, so those three verses...are "classic" correct? why exactly? not saying they aren't, but i'm trying to determine your criteria

but anyhow, you can pit those three...monotone, same flow having verses, up against this one song, flow wise, lyrically, punchline wise...how every you wanna call it, all 3 verses are official

eminem - infinite
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KYdh8EDWT5M

pop203
05-27-08, 12:53 PM
jadakiss is not talented enough to ever make a song like this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NNXR7z3md0U

he's not graphic/vivid/skilled enough. eminem is/was in a different league. can you even imagine a jadakiss type of rapper makin a song like "Stan"? lol, come on man. jadakiss is like a dope ass mixtape rapper, thats it, you cant compare him with someone like a Eminem. jadakiss is dope at spittin about absolutely nothing, and even on that tip i think eminem may have him beat by a little. check some of his old ass freestyles.

Sunzoo aka LC
05-27-08, 12:55 PM
Its classic cuz its memorable thats the definition of classic, heres another example and this mixtape he was spitting head to head with BIG, classic
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z4KBRce2Oc4&feature=related

d-12 - american psycho (first verse)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qyFnabjJgX8


again, flow wise, delivery, lyrically...how would you call it? (others, please weight in on this as well)

Roxx the King
05-27-08, 12:55 PM
...Eminem already answered this question...

You're "Dead Wrong":
[Eminem]
There's several different levels to Devil worshippin: horse's heads,
human sacrifices, canibalism; candles and exorcism
Animals havin sex with 'em; camels mammals and rabbits
But I don't get into that, I kick the habit - I just,
beat you to death with weapons that eat through the flesh
And I never eat you unless the ****in, meat looks fresh
I got a lion in my pocket, I'm lyin, I got a nine in my pocket
and baby I'm just, dyin to cock him
He's ready for war, I'm ready for war
I got machetes and swords for any ***got that said he was raw
My uz' as, heavy as yours, yeah you met me before
I just didn't have as large an arsenal of weapons before
Marshall will step in the door, I lay your head on the floor
With your body spread on the bedspread, red on the wall
red on the ceilin, red on the floor, get a new whore
Met on the second, wet on the third;
then she's dead on the fourth - I'm dead wrong

Roxx the King
05-27-08, 12:57 PM
this is gonna be a good "sunzoo sonning"...

*grabs popcorn, minimizes internet window at work... and subs*

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 12:57 PM
aight, so those three verses...are "classic" correct? why exactly? not saying they aren't, but i'm trying to determine your criteria
but anyhow, you can pit those three...monotone, same flow having verses, up against this one song, flow wise, lyrically, punchline wise...how every you wanna call it, all 3 verses are official
eminem - infinite
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KYdh8EDWT5M

Good lyrics but once again it aint always about who is more lyrical, I say the ones I selected are classic, because its memorable thats the definition of classic nothing more nothing less, years from now those songs will still be played will the song you posted be played heres another example of what I mean when I say classic

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hCCEQf0SL0U

I'm not knocking Em's ability to spit but right now Jada has more memorable verses, songs, and appearances than Em.

Sunzoo aka LC
05-27-08, 12:58 PM
verses that i'm sure you already know about

dead wrong
renegades (both verses)
forgot about dre

^ find something to match those

N*IT*2*WIN*IT
05-27-08, 12:59 PM
*digs in*

TRUESTORY212
05-27-08, 01:00 PM
eminem is not even better than fatjoe how he gonna be better than jadakiss?
http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=966899

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 01:00 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eG9FKnUMEhg&feature=related

" You aint nothing but a playboy turned bunny"

Thats good yall can team up aganist me and I still got more classics from JADA

"Its sad niccas is too broke to pay attention"

BossBaller
05-27-08, 01:01 PM
Em's first verse on "Rock Bottom" is better than half the jawns on Jada's solo albums.

And I'm not even an Em fan like that...and Jada is that *****:

"...but come and see me at the Plaza Hotel, I might give you a job..."

:laugh:

grock2727
05-27-08, 01:02 PM
It's all subjective really, but in the end Em takes this by a long shot IMO, it's not even close. The problem is the threadstarter wants to put his favorite in a position he's comfortable with ("classic verses" only) and doesn't want to add up the whole body of work, like many before have said, Jada completely fails on his own albums, he's good for a hot 16 but that alone is not going to get you ranked among the best.

pop203
05-27-08, 01:02 PM
"Its sad niccas is too broke to pay attention"

that'd be dope if jada wasnt the 130th rapper to spit that line. i like keith murray's variation the best. "i'll leave ya mental so broke you can't pay attention"

Sunzoo aka LC
05-27-08, 01:03 PM
Good lyrics but once again it aint always about who is more lyrical

well you did say classic verses, you didn't ask who had more swag, so i figured lyrics and all the little sub categories that come with that would be the main criteria factored

I say the ones I selected are classic, because its memorable thats the definition of classic nothing more nothing less, years from now those songs will still be played will the song you posted be played heres another example of what I mean when I say classic
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hCCEQf0SL0U
I'm not knocking Em's ability to spit but right now Jada has more memorable verses, songs, and appearances than Em.

you think they are classic, i think they are pretty much the same sh1t i been hearing jada spit his whole career

lol@ we gone make it? cute...

we gone make it vs. 2nd verse of ammityville
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ptjntbGxXxM

again...compare them lyrically, flow wise and delivery wise

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 01:04 PM
verses that i'm sure you already know about

dead wrong
renegades (both verses)
forgot about dre

^ find something to match those

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MGaoYls9YSY

Pick any verse Jada

Whoever old nicca new nicca man you can't be serious

The Nastiest
05-27-08, 01:05 PM
I like Jada as a rapper, but there's no possible way he can go verse for verse with Em.

And saying a classic is defined by the probability of you listening to the verse years later is valid. First off, we all have different tastes, so we'll all var as far as what we'll go back and listen tofor nastalgia's sake. Secondly, there's no way in the world you know what you'll be listening to to years from now. You've got to base it on what you're still listening at this point, and I'd honestly rather hear the old Em go crazy on a verse than old Jada go crazy over a beat

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 01:05 PM
It's all subjective really, but in the end Em takes this by a long shot IMO, it's not even close. The problem is the threadstarter wants to put his favorite in a position he's comfortable with ("classic verses" only) and doesn't want to add up the whole body of work, like many before have said, Jada completely fails on his own albums, he's good for a hot 16 but that alone is not going to get you ranked among the best.

Hip Hop is like sports and verses are rings Jada got more memorable and classic versus it no debate

SoufJeRZA
05-27-08, 01:06 PM
Eminem been surpassed Jada...

e.moore
05-27-08, 01:07 PM
i've heard more em than jada, but i think i've heard enough so that i gotta side with em on this one

but they are both great artists

Sunzoo aka LC
05-27-08, 01:08 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MGaoYls9YSY
Pick any verse Jada
Whoever old nicca new nicca man you can't be serious

first verse was heat, so i'll put that, up against this

we all die one day (em is 3rd)

flow, lyrics, delivery

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PVtqT7wjpYI

pop203
05-27-08, 01:08 PM
Hip Hop is like sports and verses are rings Jada got more memorable and classic versus it no debate

lol @ verses are rings. wouldn't albums make more sense being the equivilent to rings? if verses were rings nas and jay-z would have like 300 rings between the two of them, :thumbsdow. jadakiss has no great album, therefore he's ringless. eminem got 1 ring (marshall mathers lp) and a conference championship (slim shady lp). jadakiss aint even made the playoffs yet.

The Nastiest
05-27-08, 01:08 PM
Hip Hop is like sports and verses are rings Jada got more memorable and classic versus it no debate
lol@ the idea that verses are rings. If anything albums are rings, not 16's.


Verses are regular season games, songs are playoff appearances, albums are playoff wins, and a string of good albums is a championship ring... if you want to roll with that metaphor

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 01:10 PM
first verse was heat, so i'll put that, up against this
we all die one day (em is 3rd)
flow, lyrics, delivery
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PVtqT7wjpYI


http://youtube.com/watch?v=48lkhSvd9jg&feature=related

"JADA I Got Beef with the feds and the DA"

Look its no comparison lyrically yea Em is better but Jada has more classic verses thats what I'm saying

BossBaller
05-27-08, 01:12 PM
Look its no comparison lyrically yea Em is better but Jada has more classic verses thats what I'm saying

...but see, this is your OPINION, not fact.

You can't prove it, no matter how many Jada verses you post.

Why don't you understand that?

You can't prove an OPINION as being FACTUALLY based.

BlackBoi0385
05-27-08, 01:13 PM
lol@ the idea that verses are rings. If anything albums are rings, not 16's.
Verses are regular season games, songs are playoff appearances, albums are playoff wins, and a string of good albums is a championship ring... if you want to roll with that metaphor

True but Jada still got more classic verses


http://youtube.com/watch?v=-VQdWLndiiQ&feature=related

"I'm not cocky I'm confident so when you tell me I'm the best its a compliment"

He killed 50 with that oh my god

N*IT*2*WIN*IT
05-27-08, 01:13 PM
Jada is losing so far......

and thats my n!gga

Stimulate_Uk
05-27-08, 01:13 PM
jada is nice as hell, but he hasnt got it in him to write a better track than "infinite"

Sunzoo aka LC
05-27-08, 01:15 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=48lkhSvd9jg&feature=related
"JADA I Got Beef with the feds and the DA"
Look its no comparison lyrically yea Em is better but Jada has more classic verses thats what I'm saying

lmao so no...there is no comparison lyrically, yet, the lyrically inferior emcee has more classic verses? i mean...how else do you judge a verse, other than lyrics, and other components of lyricism

and i'm still posting fam....more people have come into the thread, and co-signed this statement, even people who aren't even fans of em, and i still have plenty of verses on deck for anything you could offer, from a lyrical and flow stand point

the only thing making theses verses "classic", is the fact that you like them

by the way, have you listened to the links i posted? what were the best ones thus far?

Stimulate_Uk
05-27-08, 01:15 PM
classic jada


http://youtube.com/watch?v=TdbvYCsr4HU