Why Did T.I. Diss Ludacris? [Archive] - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum

BlackBulletZZ

05-26-08, 09:44 PM

Karim Kharbouch

05-26-08, 10:34 PM

ever since i heard trap muzik, he been sendin shots at him and i never knew why
"all you rap n!ggaz rolll outtttt" - Trap Muzik
"i ain't gon lie tigga, these really rappers don't deserve the beef
but keep runnin ya teeth and ima come disturb ya peace" - RapCity freestyle
"real n!ggas see the difference 'tween you and this
me gettin beat down? thats ludacris" - Stomp
what did ludacris do to ruffle his feathers?
Started before either got a deal....They knew of each other...Luda was a radio personality "Chris Luva Luva" and Tip was the young hot rapper repping the streets of the A....Tip used to call in and rap on the radio, I20 did too...It started as a I20/Tip situation from that...Next thang ya know. Luda get a deal, starts fukking with I20/Then Tip gets his deal....Then they go back and forth from that....This is/was truly a classic battle b/c they was throwing good subliminal shots at each other for yeeeeeears before Stomp got recorded...That 'Southern Fried" Intro was supposed to be Tip

that song "Blow it out your ass" "I bet you own a lot of property, blow it out yo ass" For every Tip sneak diss, there was a Luda one too...

RawDro

05-26-08, 10:35 PM

luda killed him...so it dont matter....

Trell316

05-26-08, 10:37 PM

Started before either got a deal....They knew of each other...Luda was a radio personality "Chris Luva Luva" and Tip was the young hot rapper repping the streets of the A....Tip used to call in and rap on the radio, I20 did too...It started as a I20/Tip situation from that...Next thang ya know. Luda get a deal, starts fukking with I20/Then Tip gets his deal....Then they go back and forth from that....This is/was truly a classic battle b/c they was throwing good subliminal shots at each other for yeeeeeears before Stomp got recorded...That 'Southern Fried" Intro was supposed to be Tip
that song "Blow it out your ass" "I bet you own a lot of property, blow it out yo ass" For every Tip sneak diss, there was a Luda one too...

correct, "Grand Royal" from Im Serious was directed at I-20

BlackBulletZZ

05-26-08, 10:44 PM

that song "Blow it out your ass" "I bet you own a lot of property, blow it out yo ass" For every Tip sneak diss, there was a Luda one too...

show me some luda subliminals i don't believe it

Tha B. Phatz

05-26-08, 10:44 PM

tip had a song called represent supposedly dissin luda if anyone got it up it

Lawrence

05-26-08, 10:49 PM

luda killed him...so it dont matter....

Karim Kharbouch

05-26-08, 11:07 PM

show me some luda subliminals i don't believe it
pretty much the entire Chicken and Beer album had Tip disses throughout
This song is entirely a Tip subliminal diss track
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q8zKT3A2Ezc&feature=related

The guy that starts talking at 1:33 is supposed to be a spoof on Tip "Posse Family Cartel" Pimp Squad Clique- get it?

"Call your producers Im hurtin these beats"

You got the kid at the end egging it on. "The king of kings have spoken, ATL Shawty"

nalej

05-26-08, 11:28 PM

Luda dropping some wack ass singles lately. That's all I know.

BlackBulletZZ

05-26-08, 11:32 PM

Luda dropping some wack ass singles lately. That's all I know.

runaway love >

Heyman7

05-26-08, 11:36 PM

show me some luda subliminals i don't believe it

both of them have threw subliminal shots , TI has thrown more. Homie, above was on point with the southern fried intro & some skits throughout some of Luda's albums.

"Stomp" would of punished TI's career if he would of responded at that time because he was just seeing commercial success off of Trap Muzik and Ludacris had already peaked and had about 4 or 5 videos off of Chicken & Beer on daily rotation on the video networks. TI had a scuffle with Chaka and he was just about on the same level commercially with Luda after KING and TI V TIP and if he didn't catch the crazy charges, I think a battle could of popped off. From the "Get Money" remix subliminals to the
"that apology was for BET not DTP" he spit on the Jeezy track.

"Intro" Red Light District

Me and Shaka still starvin and lookin for meals
And HEADS UP! Ludacris is almost out of his deal
I'm over ten million sold, every album is CRACK
And for now I'm bout to carry Def Jam on my BACK
Mad rappers I hear you talkin way down at the bottom
Though I make big money, still handle small problems
The ramblin at the mouth, I don't PLAY THAT SH*T
I'm the best and I ain't really got SAY THAT SH*T!

"War With God" whole track was basically a bait for TI

Album for album you can see I got a multimillion plan
So call yourself whatever you want cept the multimillion man

How many times is you gon rap about busting your gun
How many times is you gon trap without busting your gun
Only shots you ever took were subliminal to the general
Disrespecting those doing real time with real criminals

I paid the price and the cost to be the boss so you can rest your mouth
I'm universal, Luda never limits himself to the south
I give a damn about ya hootin and hollerin, and it ain't bothering ME
I hear you talkin but you ain't made it to THREE
You know where I live, but you ain't made it to ME
You ain't made *****
I'm havin a house party, kid come get played n*gga

Heyman7

05-26-08, 11:45 PM

ever since i heard trap muzik, he been sendin shots at him and i never knew why
"all you rap n!ggaz rolll outtttt" - Trap Muzik
"i ain't gon lie tigga, these really rappers don't deserve the beef
but keep runnin ya teeth and ima come disturb ya peace" - RapCity freestyle
"real n!ggas see the difference 'tween you and this
me gettin beat down? thats ludacris" - Stomp
what did ludacris do to ruffle his feathers?

Although TI sent some shots on previous albums, he gave him some
props on KING

"Talkin 2 You"
Had it out with Chris he still my n*gga
sat down,civilized talk about it like ni*gaz
so I ain't never been served get ya facts right n*gga

Hook on "Told You So"

[Chorus]
Man, I told you so
They thought a pimp wasn't s'posed to blow
Because I was rappin about moving o's and blow
Pimp I told you so
They thought that Outkast closed the door
And Ludacris came in and sold his 4
Man, I told you so
The Mac, C-Rod, Kuntry and Dro
And AK had the coldest flow
*****, I told you so
I said the future was right up under your nose
You thought the south wouldn't explode no more
Remember, I told you so

Karim Kharbouch

05-26-08, 11:50 PM

both of them have threw subliminal shots , TI has thrown more. Homie, above was on point with the southern fried intro & some skits throughout some of Luda's albums.

"Stomp" would of punished TI's career if he would of responded at that time because he was just seeing commercial success off of Trap Muzik and Ludacris had already peaked and had about 4 or 5 videos off of Chicken & Beer on daily rotation on the video networks. TI had a scuffle with Chaka and he was just about on the same level commercially with Luda after KING and TI V TIP and if he didn't catch the crazy charges, I think a battle could of popped off. From the "Get Money" remix subliminals to the
"that apology was for BET not DTP" he spit on the Jeezy track.

"Intro" Red Light District

Me and Shaka still starvin and lookin for meals
And HEADS UP! Ludacris is almost out of his deal
I'm over ten million sold, every album is CRACK
And for now I'm bout to carry Def Jam on my BACK
Mad rappers I hear you talkin way down at the bottom
Though I make big money, still handle small problems
The ramblin at the mouth, I don't PLAY THAT SH*T
I'm the best and I ain't really got SAY THAT SH*T!

"War With God" whole track was basically a bait for TI

Album for album you can see I got a multimillion plan
So call yourself whatever you want cept the multimillion man

How many times is you gon rap about busting your gun
How many times is you gon trap without busting your gun
Only shots you ever took were subliminal to the general
Disrespecting those doing real time with real criminals

I paid the price and the cost to be the boss so you can rest your mouth
I'm universal, Luda never limits himself to the south
I give a damn about ya hootin and hollerin, and it ain't bothering ME
I hear you talkin but you ain't made it to THREE
You know where I live, but you ain't made it to ME
You ain't made *****
I'm havin a house party, kid come get played n*gga
And Tip respoinded with the verse on "watch what you say" which was a response to War with God

hexagram23

05-26-08, 11:50 PM

both of them have threw subliminal shots , TI has thrown more. Homie, above was on point with the southern fried intro & some skits throughout some of Luda's albums.

"Stomp" would of punished TI's career if he would of responded at that time because he was just seeing commercial success off of Trap Muzik and Ludacris had already peaked and had about 4 or 5 videos off of Chicken & Beer on daily rotation on the video networks. TI had a scuffle with Chaka and he was just about on the same level commercially with Luda after KING and TI V TIP and if he didn't catch the crazy charges, I think a battle could of popped off. From the "Get Money" remix subliminals to the
"that apology was for BET not DTP" he spit on the Jeezy track.

"Intro" Red Light District

Me and Shaka still starvin and lookin for meals
And HEADS UP! Ludacris is almost out of his deal
I'm over ten million sold, every album is CRACK
And for now I'm bout to carry Def Jam on my BACK
Mad rappers I hear you talkin way down at the bottom
Though I make big money, still handle small problems
The ramblin at the mouth, I don't PLAY THAT SH*T
I'm the best and I ain't really got SAY THAT SH*T!

"War With God" whole track was basically a bait for TI

Album for album you can see I got a multimillion plan
So call yourself whatever you want cept the multimillion man

How many times is you gon rap about busting your gun
How many times is you gon trap without busting your gun
Only shots you ever took were subliminal to the general
Disrespecting those doing real time with real criminals

I paid the price and the cost to be the boss so you can rest your mouth
I'm universal, Luda never limits himself to the south
I give a damn about ya hootin and hollerin, and it ain't bothering ME
I hear you talkin but you ain't made it to THREE
You know where I live, but you ain't made it to ME
You ain't made *****
I'm havin a house party, kid come get played n*gga

Luda has said several times "War With God" isn't directed at TI, or anyone. He might be copping pleas but he literally said it 4-5 different times.

Fred.

Karim Kharbouch

05-26-08, 11:51 PM

Luda has said several times "War With God" isn't directed at TI, or anyone. He might be copping pleas but he literally said it 4-5 different times.
Fred.
of course thats what he gonna say, but his actions told a different story...It was a jab at Tip and even Tip knew it.

Heyman7

05-26-08, 11:53 PM

And Tip respoinded with the verse on "watch what you say" which was a response to War with God

I honestly doubt it, only shot that was thrown on that record
was Jay at Wayne. I think the Chaka and TI fight set things back off again b/c for a minute TI was just enjoying his mainstream success and since record sales were declining him and Luda were putting up around the same numbers.

goodfellasENT

05-27-08, 01:21 AM

so please stay of the T.I.P of my d!ck > anything t.i. ever said

stomp was vicious

YoungPimpin

05-27-08, 01:45 AM

I'm pretty sure tip's first verse on my life was going at luda.

"The comparison's insultin my intelligence
Cuz real recognize real and real ya aint neva been
And never will, I catch ya where ya chill
Holla at ya where ya live, n1gga fukk a record deal
Graduated out the yay, to stack a couple mill
Who'd a figured it a be a rap n1gga i had to kill
My potnas tellin me shawty ya have to chill
But imma end up hatin with the steel, what it is still
Dopeboy trap n1ggaz worldwide lovin it"

pop203

05-27-08, 02:57 AM

ludacris is one of the few current rappers besides the living legends that I think will be around/discussed like 5 years from now.

BlackBulletZZ

05-27-08, 06:17 AM

Luda has said several times "War With God" isn't directed at TI, or anyone. He might be copping pleas but he literally said it 4-5 different times.
Fred.

no luda said it was at someone, he was misquoted in an interview when it was supposedly about himself

on bet's black carpet he said "why would i be talking about myself? why would i do something like that? of coarse i was talking about someone"

Karim Kharbouch

05-28-08, 06:48 PM

I honestly doubt it, only shot that was thrown on that record
was Jay at Wayne. I think the Chaka and TI fight set things back off again b/c for a minute TI was just enjoying his mainstream success and since record sales were declining him and Luda were putting up around the same numbers.
It never ever stopped....These dudes been subliminally beefing since 2001, and even when they "so called" squashed it, they still threw shots at each other on the very next album

The entire 2nd verse is a Luda subliminal

Cuz I aint never been a sucka been gangsta my whole life
So a ***** disrespect me and its on on sight
I hear what you say in your songs some of it I dont like
Keep it up I feel tried I see you we gone fight
Be a man say my name if you talkin 2 me
U never said well I figured you aint talkin 2 me
Find out u is at the awards or out in street
I swear ill beat yo f**kin ass like it ought 2 be beat!
See all that whisperin is lame I aint one for the game
If I say f**k u ***** f**k u simple and plain
I say no problem it no problem pimp u do the same
U can just swallow your pride cuz you know im off the chain
Try 2 refain from bein violent but you come out your face
I got my lawyer paid up ready 2 catch me a case
When I feel u disrespected me ima get me a case
But all this **** can be avoided one-on-one

Ill break down what I bolded for you, since you could not read in between his lines....'

Tip started it off by saying he dont like what he saying in his songs(letting us know yes Im talking about a rapper)

when he say that line "be a man" that was a response to War with God.....Basically saying you made a whole song about me but you aint man enough to say my name...

Awards show line, - That let you know he talking bout a top caliber rapper(that throws Flip out the equation)

"All that whispering is lame" Go back and listen to War with God.......Luda doing a lot of whispering on that song....

hershey1206

05-28-08, 07:22 PM

"this Choppa hit cha, wished u got yo' ass stomped":bustback:

...the very last part of Tip's verse....get's missed cuz of the "me gettin beatdown dats Ludacris"....

goodfellasENT

05-28-08, 07:56 PM

"this Choppa hit cha, wished u got yo' ass stomped":bustback:
...the very last part of Tip's verse....get's missed cuz of the "me gettin beatdown dats Ludacris"....

t.i got ate up that song

Karim Kharbouch

05-28-08, 07:59 PM

t.i got ate up that song
I dont think so bruh....
It is easy to hear a person's rhyme and then diss them off of it.....Kinda like what LL did to Canibus that time...

Stomp was a great Luda verse, but overrated as hell.......Only real tight Tip diss line was stay of the T.I.P of my dykk........other than that he kinda rambled thru the chit...

Heyman7

05-29-08, 12:10 AM

Mad rappers I hear you talkin way down at the bottom
Though I make big money, still handle SMALL PROBLEMS
The ramblin at the mouth, I don't PLAY THAT SH*T
I'm the best and I ain't really got SAY THAT SH*T!

Luda didn't have 2 say much more after that

Regulate94

05-29-08, 12:15 AM

ludacris overall is dominating this battle

Karim Kharbouch

05-29-08, 12:16 AM

Phukk Tha World

05-29-08, 12:28 AM

ludacris is complete GARBAGE

TI all day

re'up

05-29-08, 12:30 AM

yeah, T.I smoked Ludacris everytime they went at each other. 'Stomp' included....

Regulate94

05-29-08, 12:30 AM

ludacris is complete GARBAGE

TI all day
lol gtfoh

ludacris is compleate garbage??? since when

not back for the first time, not red light district...not chicken and beer...not all the guest spots he murders

gtoh with these shock posts:smh:

YoungPimpin

05-29-08, 12:32 AM

luda = Black eminem = black cornball

smh @ that clown having stans. long pelican face lookin ass n1gga

Karim Kharbouch

05-29-08, 12:32 AM

yeah, T.I smoked Ludacris everytime they went at each other. 'Stomp' included....
I been telling nikkaz dis chit for years......

At the time it was "perceived" that Luda got the best of Tip, simply b/c at THAT time Luda was waaaay more popular, and was a bigger star.....Tip at the time was a up and coming star but had not cemented his name yet......

It took Luda damn near 10 bars just to get a decent diss out....

all the "fish tank and your house cost the same" was wack

Heyman7

05-29-08, 12:33 AM

yeah, T.I smoked Ludacris everytime they went at each other. 'Stomp' included....

during the time of "Stomp" TI's mainstream fame was just developing so even if he would of went at Buck, G Unit's fame would of crushed him by even the simplest battle record. He wasn't ready for another Ludacris response after "Stomp" because the Hip Hop world had already spoken. That's why immediately after he recovered and gathered some steam again by going at Lil Flip.

Phukk Tha World

05-29-08, 12:33 AM

lol gtfoh
ludacris is compleate garbage??? since when
not back for the first time, not red light district...not chicken and beer...not all the guest spots he murders
gtoh with these shock posts:smh:
chicen and beer? that sound like some white trash album, i aint gon listen that goofy sh*t :thumbsdow
n*gga is garbage on every song he's on, his flow is :gag::gag::gag: sound gay as fuc :thumbsdow

re'up

05-29-08, 12:37 AM

I been telling nikkaz dis chit for years......

At the time it was "perceived" that Luda got the best of Tip, simply b/c at THAT time Luda was waaaay more popular, and was a bigger star.....Tip at the time was a up and coming star but had not cemented his name yet......

It took Luda damn near 10 bars just to get a decent diss out....

all the "fish tank and your house cost the same" was wack

yeah, I remember when Buck's first joint leaked, told this story on here 100 x, I burned it, and my boys came and got me. smoked a blunt w/ hash oil, thats all we were fukking w/ that summer, and rode out to that Buck sh!t. 'Stomp' ended up on repeat, and I always thought T.I got at him. but everyone disagreed w/ me, I think it was the flow and delivery, cuz the disses were weak, and I like how T.I came at him on that street sh!t...

what does he say.....we can do it like the _____you ain't w/ that. never got that line.

YoungPimpin

05-29-08, 12:38 AM

chicen and beer? that sound like some white trash album, i aint gon listen that goofy sh*t :thumbsdow
n*gga is garbage on every song he's on, his flow is :gag::gag::gag: sound gay as fuc :thumbsdow

LMAO @ chihuahua face altering his avi after I called him an ol' ren n stimpy face lookin ass n1gga

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

sh1t burned slow huh?

*waits for rick rauce joke*

BlackBulletZZ

05-29-08, 12:39 AM

war wit god >

Karim Kharbouch

05-29-08, 12:40 AM

yeah, I remember when Buck's first joint leaked, told this story on here 100 x, I burned it, and my boys came and got me. smoked a blunt w/ hash oil, thats all we were fukking w/ that summer, and rode out to that Buck sh!t. 'Stomp' ended up on repeat, and I always thought T.I got at him. but everyone disagreed w/ me, I think it was the flow and delivery, cuz the disses were weak, and I like how T.I came at him on that street sh!t...
what does he say.....we can do it like the _____you ain't w/ that. never got that line.
One of the hottest lines

"We can do it like Tha Row, but you aint with that"

He was talking bout fukk rap, we can get gangsta like Death Row Records, this was at the time when Suge had changed the name from Death Row Records, to simply "The Row"