"LIFE AFTER DEATH ISN'T CLASSIC" = SOHH FULL OF 90's BABIES

[fuhgeddaboutit]

It's classic to me because I have specific memories and experiences that occured around the time of that album; I was in the 10th grade when it dropped. I even remember buying it at Target and rushing home just to listen to it.

see im not ****ting on that
but just cause you copped it when you were a kid does not make it a classic
but i respect what you said the other dude is off his rocker and trying to act like hes all grown when hes a lil kid himself

i use to think some **** that i got in the 10th grade was classic too but with age comes perspective and i wont listen to that **** in 08

[Work_Safe]

"at last a n1gga rappin bout blunts & broads, tits & bras, minaseutows, sex & exspensive cars"....



thread closed

[Art Barr]

THE BEST DOUBLE DISC EVER IN HIP HOP HISTORY:
#1. LIFE AFTER DEATH - 5 MICS
#2. ALL EYES ON ME - 5 MICS
#3. WU TANG FOREVER - 5 MICS
#4. ART OF WAR - 4.5 MICS
#5. SPEAKERBOXXX/THE LOVE BELOW - 4.5 MICS


best double disc in history is:


MOBB DEEP free agents.

top to bottom with no filler just raw mobb, and even fiddy drops in for some great appearances in the early relaunch of his career.


art barr

[Kingofkings]

"I rhyme greater than the avarage player hater", you must ne mad cause biggie is joking about all the haters all the time. Life after Death is a fuccking Classic, thats why you are making a thread about it 11 years after it dropped. Thats why alot of us still know most of the lyrics 11 years after etc.

[Asante1010]

best double disc in history is:
MOBB DEEP free agents.
top to bottom with no filler just raw mobb, and even fiddy drops in for some great appearances in the early relaunch of his career.
art barr
OH SHIIT! I always forget about Free Agents because it is like a mixtape. Ima have to make that 6th on my list.

----------------
Listening to: Jedi Mind Tricks - The Three Immortals (feat. Breath of Judah) (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/jedi+mind+tricks/track/the+three+immortals+(feat.+breath+of+judah))

[Vincenzo_Corleone]

Most definitely a step DOWN from Ready to Die.

'Hypnotize' was, and is, awful - how in the hell people praised this song after BIG dropped a pure jewel like 'Juicy' the first time around is beyond me.

I probably only listened to this album in its entiretity 2 times or something - for the rest I always skipped shyt.

[Work_Safe]

Most definitely a step DOWN from Ready to Die.
'Hypnotize' was, and is, awful - how in the hell people praised this song after BIG dropped a pure jewel like 'Juicy' the first time around is beyond me.
I probably only listened to this album in its entiretity 2 times or something - for the rest I always skipped shyt.


go kill ya self :smh:

the best part of you dripped down the crack of ya momma's a$$ :thumbsdow

[rf2001]

a classic album is also rated on impact, LAD impact is still strong after all these years. As of matter of fact, I'm going be bumping this again this weekend. "somebodies gotta die" is my all time favorite intro on this album, classic rain drop type shyt..

[Havoc00]

Art Of War >>>> Lad

[rf2001]

Art Of War >>>> Lad


Sun Tzu book on Art of War vs Biggie's LAD...wow.

[Heavy Handz]

Easily a 5 mic classic...

What's Beef?
Somebody Gotta Die
10 Crack Commandments
Notorious Thugs
F*ckin' You Tonight
My Downfall
You're Nobody(Till Somebody Kills You)
I Got a Story To Tell
Last Dayz
Sky's The Limit
Kick In The Door
Hypnotize
N*ggaz Bleed

We're talking about like 13 damn near CLASSIC joints on one album... THIRTEEN!!!!!!!!!!! And this isn't classic? Somebody said 3.5/5... This is the best album since 1997 in Hip-Hop :laugh: This is a LEGENDARY record... :king:

[rf2001]

Most definitely a step DOWN from Ready to Die.
'Hypnotize' was, and is, awful - how in the hell people praised this song after BIG dropped a pure jewel like 'Juicy' the first time around is beyond me.
I probably only listened to this album in its entiretity 2 times or something - for the rest I always skipped shyt.


Juicy is tight but LAD was just different types of ways Biggie was rappin' on. Miss you is another emotional track I just got high on.

[Heavy Handz]

best double disc in history is:
MOBB DEEP free agents.
top to bottom with no filler just raw mobb, and even fiddy drops in for some great appearances in the early relaunch of his career.
art barr

You have smoked yourself retarded.

[rf2001]

You have smoked yourself retarded.


co-signs (http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/uploads/1190858-Half%20Baked.gif)

[T.N.C.]

I strongly believe that lad sold more than aeom. even though i brought it up, why is the burden of fact on me when u questioned me about lad selling more than aeom. u prove me wrong.


i.e. He THINKS it sold more, but does not KNOW.

1. I don't know WHERE you'd get your proof for what each album sold, but the RIAA website is not current at all with either of their album sales. The last info point for both is around the year 2000 and both have sold more since then.


2. I doubt if you could ever get 100% accurate information for AEOM's album sales because album plaques can only be certified by label CEOs (for Death Row it was Suge). and when Suge went to jail in the mid 90s he stopped certifying ALL of DR's album plaques partly as a way of getting back at Dre and Snoop for leaving and denying them actual proof for Suge not paying them what they owe AND the nicca was in jail. He had bigger problems.


3. With Suge no longer in ownership of DR's catalogue due to losing the rights to the label, I doubt we will ever seen The Chronic, Doggystyle, AEOM and several other DR album's TRUE album count.



Basically there IS no proof that LAD outsold AEOM other than old outdated records.

[Word...Life23]

best double disc in history is:
MOBB DEEP free agents.
top to bottom with no filler just raw mobb, and even fiddy drops in for some great appearances in the early relaunch of his career.
art barr


any1 got a link to that???

[Art Barr]

You have smoked yourself retarded.


well taking into account that there are only a handful of double albums in rap history. even lil flip mechanically can lay some claim to fame to having a double album. which should be an indicator on the normal quality associated with a rap double album. which usually sucks from misdirection top to bottom over both albums.

i want you to list a better rap double album front to back top to bottom, song for song......

then you will show how retarded you actually are, for even tryin to dispute the sh!t.


art barr

i bet this dude didn't realize that double album saved mobb deep's career after losing and fallin off skillswise, after tha takeover.

[Heavy Handz]

well taking into account that there are only a handful of double albums in rap history. even lil flip mechanically can lay some claim to fame to having a double album. which should be an indicator on the normal quality associated with a rap double album. which usually sucks from misdirection top to bottom over both albums.
i want you to list a better rap double album front to back top to bottom, song for song......
then you will show how retarded you actually are, for even tryin to dispute the sh!t.
art barr
i bet this dude didn't realize that double album saved mobb deep's career after losing and fallin off skillswise, after tha takeover.

Yeah, Life After Death and All Eyez On Me come to mind :laugh:

[Art Barr]

Yeah, Life After Death and All Eyez On Me come to mind :laugh:


uhm.....those two albums aren't exactly that great if you aren't some stan of either artist.


all eyez on me:

ambitions as a ridah
pain


life after death:

10crack
kic n da door
story2tell
phuckin tonite
maybe one or two others.

versus

two whole albums of bangers that you don't have to ff to get to the good stuff.

sorry i will take the mobb deep offering.

i will take wutang forever over LAD, AEOM too.

plus not to mention when it comes to double albums released in the time period wholeheartedly in any genre. AEOM, & LAD pale in comparison to:

SMASHing PUMPKINs
meloncholy and infinite sadness which really was the album that started the whole double album thing again in the industry, at the time.

just the same way rap tried to do the one album every year ala pearl jam when busta rhymes decided he could do it. then everyone else in rap tried to follow suit with a bunch of lackluster yearly released over pr'd offerings.


art barr

[Havoc00]

Krayzie Bone Thug Mentality >>>> Mobb Deep's free agents, and wasn't the 2nd cd just a bonus disc? Like didn't it have other artists on there too and mostly previously released tracks?

[shaolinshadowboxing]

Krayzie Bone Thug Mentality >>>> Mobb Deep's free agents, and wasn't the 2nd cd just a bonus disc? Like didn't it have other artists on there too and mostly previously released tracks?

yeah the 2nd disc was a bonus disc of mostly previously released tracks which should automatically disqualify it from being a true double album. plus the first disc is trash anyway outside of solidified, the illest, and maybe a couple other tracks. the best double disc imo is easily wu-forever. smh @ the mentions of diplomatic immunity in this thread.

[Art Barr]

yeah the 2nd disc was a bonus disc of mostly previously released tracks which should automatically disqualify it from being a true double album. plus the first disc is trash anyway outside of solidified, the illest, and maybe a couple other tracks. the best double disc imo is easily wu-forever. smh @ the mentions of diplomatic immunity in this thread.


doesn't matter,...bsides/unreleased/hard2find/bootleg/whitelabels used to be one of the staples of actually purchasing records especially in hiphop. not to mention digital versions of those recordings, were actually remastered and mixed, and released by the artist on an independant, finally.

so i don't see how that disqualifies it.

goes to show how many people on here actually used to own or have a real record collection and understand the significance.


art barr

[Havoc00]

doesn't matter,...bsides/unreleased/hard2find used to be one of the staples of actually purchasing records especially in hiphop. not to mention digital versions of those recordings, were actually remastered and mixed.
so i don't see how that disqualifies it.
goes to show how many people on here actually used to own or have a real record collection and understand the significance.
art barr


So can we count double best of cds in the mix too, since they have unreleased tracks remixes and b sides?

[shaolinshadowboxing]

doesn't matter,...bsides/unreleased/hard2find/bootleg/whitelabels used to be one of the staples of actually purchasing records especially in hiphop. not to mention digital versions of those recordings, were actually remastered and mixed, and released by the artist on an independant, finally.
so i don't see how that disqualifies it.
goes to show how many people on here actually used to own or have a real record collection and understand the significance.
art barr

they just lifted some songs from g rap album, cormega album, and some others, infamous mobb album. they didnt record the songs for that album, they just cut and pasted it on there. that's like saying pac's greatest hits is a true double album.

[Art Barr]

So can we count double best of cds in the mix too, since they have unreleased tracks remixes and b sides?


uhm..yeah if they have classic material and a track listing, plus mixing that enhances the original releases.

no one is strippin away nas's other classic from having a relevent label as a classic, because it is a collection of unreleased classic remixes and bsides.

lost tapes is a certified classic. you should start with that for starters.

it wasn't until mixtapes that you could get a bunch of unreleased b sides, and stuff tied up in sample litigation. yet and still you still get re-releases of some of that material as well.

like for instance:

cam's : dead motherphuckers and shut tha phuck up...which are classics and re-released on duke's last few offerings.

art barr

[fundz]

The threadstarter is an idiot, granted, but LAD is a certified fukkin classic. Disc 2 had fillers? To who? You? lol...shyt is straight to me. The album's achieved so much and won too many accolades for ya'll to just pick it apart like it was some medicore 97 release. It's aged perfectly too.

What's funny is the same people in here downplaying its greatness don't got no problems whatsoever with AEOM. Like it ain't got no fillers. Like it ain't a stepdown from MATW. These nyggas is penchant/hate-driven. Everything that LAD is guilty of, AEOM is aslo guilty of. If one isn't a classic, I don't even see how the other can be.

[Art Barr]

they just lifted some songs from g rap album, cormega album, and some others, infamous mobb album. they didnt record the songs for that album, they just cut and pasted it on there. that's like saying pac's greatest hits is a true double album.

all of those songs were hard to find for mobb fans. plus they also had bsides which were hard to get and mastered.

i'm sorry if you may have grown up in a timeperiod of everything being just readily accessible to you.

i didn't and at the time, getting all those songs, especially when this sh!T dropped after the death of napster as a free trading tool. scour, winamp, and a few others were dead or on the decline. i just think that also says something as well. mobb didn't forget what was important to rap, and its history as a commodity.

bsides/feature/unreleased/whitelabels, were the life's blood of the rap game.

if you don't understand that, i don't know what to tell you. imma a mobb fan, and i still don't own all their unreleased material, and it is even a thread on sohh.com that has links to mostly all of it. now take that into consideration and also the fact that freeagents was mixed for commercial use. which also gives it another high mark in comparison.


art barr

[Mr.Sam]

all of those songs were hard to find for mobb fans. plus they also had bsides which were hard to get and mastered.
i'm sorry if you may have grown up in a timeperiod of everything being just readily accessible to you.
i didn't and at the time, getting all those songs, especially when this sh!T dropped after the death of napster as a free trading tool. scour, winamp, and a few others were dead or on the decline. i just think that also says something as well. mobb didn't forget what was important to rap, and its history as a commodity.
bsides/feature/unreleased/whitelabels, were the life's blood of the rap game.
if you don't understand that, i don't know what to tell you. imma a mobb fan, and i still don't own all their unreleased material, and it is even a thread on sohh.com that has links to mostly all of it. now take that into consideration and also the fact that freeagents was mixed for commercial use. which also gives it another high mark in comparison.
art barr

Check your PM

[Art Barr]

The threadstarter is an idiot, granted, but LAD is a certified fukkin classic. Disc 2 had fillers? To who? You? lol...shyt is straight to me. The album's achieved so much and won too many accolades for ya'll to just pick it apart like it was some medicore 97 release. It's aged perfectly too.
What's funny is the same people in here downplaying its greatness don't got no problems whatsoever with AEOM. Like it ain't got no fillers. Like it ain't a stepdown from MATW. These nyggas is penchant/hate-driven. Everything that LAD is guilty of, AEOM is aslo guilty of. If one isn't a classic, I don't even see how the other can be.


i don't think either, AEOM, or LAD are actual classic records.

especially since they prey on tryin to crossover and only get to exist in that realm because of the media oversaturation and pr, both received. which made both artist bulletproof historically and generally from taking flack in cred, and respectability. especially in comparison to other artist and their contemporaries from their time period, before and after plus the future. both artists[Big, pac] and both releases [AEOM & LAD] are just victims of oversaturation, pr blitzing, and fan emotional support.

both aren't classic, and even by the source and other media publications tryin to sell mags, in the wake of the madness. just precipitated the bullsh!T to no end.

sh!t is one of the most heinous crimes upon the culture, honestly. the media just tried to play it up to increase their visibility and cred with the so-called fans of their music.

art barr

[shaolinshadowboxing]

The threadstarter is an idiot, granted, but LAD is a certified fukkin classic. Disc 2 had fillers? To who? You? lol...shyt is straight to me. The album's achieved so much and won too many accolades for ya'll to just pick it apart like it was some medicore 97 release. It's aged perfectly too.
What's funny is the same people in here downplaying its greatness don't got no problems whatsoever with AEOM. Like it ain't got no fillers. Like it ain't a stepdown from MATW. These nyggas is penchant/hate-driven. Everything that LAD is guilty of, AEOM is aslo guilty of. If one isn't a classic, I don't even see how the other can be.

I have the same exact feelings on AEOM, the fillers drag it down from classic status. Both are great albums but I'm not gonna call them classic. "Nasty Boy," "Another," and "Playa Hater" are fillers, and not just to me.

[mike kane]

LAD ain't a classic...


It's a 2-disc compilation of fillers & a nice amount of bangers...

TOO much filler.


Ready To Die>>>>>>.Life After Death BY FAR.

[HipHopHead24]

*****s is out of their minds to say its not!

[N*IT*2*WIN*IT]

1 for the crib

1 for the whip

and 1 to keep in plastic, cuz it's a CLASSIC u bastards!!!!!!!!

[kingofthings]

'The World is Filled' is one of my favorite tracks of all time....
Too Short's verse and talking at the end = piff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9yYn3sxVLA)

"when the Remys in the system/
aint no tellin when I fukk em, when I diss em" -:yes: Biggie

[fundz]

I have the same exact feelings on AEOM, the fillers drag it down from classic status. Both are great albums but I'm not gonna call them classic. "Nasty Boy," "Another," and "Playa Hater" are fillers, and not just to me.

lol...AEOM and LAD are classics. This shouldn't even be discussed. Both were monumental for hip-hop. Both were epic. Both had soooo many classic songs embedded within each of the 4 discs, that the 'fillers' here and there are more than excused. AEOM is a cornerstone of westcoast hip-hop, and LAD of eastcoast hip-hop, period.

Irregardless of your own personal standards of classic-branding, the majority of hip-hop fans (note I didn't say SOHH, AHH or any other messageboard) do regard both albums as classic. And that's all that matters. The popular opinion is the deciding opinion. Are both albums widely regarded as classics? Yessir.

And you talking about fillers, right? Doesn't MMLP have fillers? Don't you regard it as a classic? Exactly.

[Tha Hot Spitta]

life after death is a masterpiece one of the top 5 rap albums of all time

goin back to cali
kick in the door
n1ggas bleed
whats beef
ten crack commandments
your nobody till somebody kills you
i got a story to tell
hypnotize
skys the limit

:ohmy:

[Swagger]

classic, shoulda gone octuple

[Art Barr]

life after death is a masterpiece one of the top 5 rap albums of all time

goin back to cali
kick in the door
n1ggas bleed
whats beef
ten crack commandments
your nobody till somebody kills you
i got a story to tell
hypnotize
skys the limit
:ohmy:

those are the only standouts on a double disc. ask ya self how is that a classic full double lp.

it isn't and honestly if LAD is a classic, then honestly BP II can lay claim to that title because it has just as many if not more tracks. maybe some aren't seen as classic. but yet and still the realistic review of BP II puts into perspective how actually lackluster LAD actually is.

if i was in person at your crib with the long player on wax,...yall would get tired of how many times we would have to get up and move the needle. then take out the other wax, listen to one or two songs. then the same over and over again.

that isn't a classic record.

my smashing pumpking triple LP, on vinyl. i can bang all the way through, and that is rock and ain't rap. rock is much harder to make good and digestible. not to mention at the time period rock was held in the same how can i be down aesthetic that was destroyed from the wrinkle in time of LAD. so i fail to see how LAD is this classic record from top to bottom. the songs you listed are the good or classic moments and that is it, barring the inclusion of the madrapper interlude. plus, tha pumpkins also were mired in being the end all be all after curt's death, and actually delivered. LAD, is just posthumous pr d!cklickin when it came to making a real actual credible review.

art barr

[BostonFACE]

'The World is Filled' is one of my favorite tracks of all time....
Too Short's verse and talking at the end = piff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9yYn3sxVLA)

"when the Remys in the system/
aint no tellin when I fukk em, when I diss em" -:yes: Biggie

umm,,its actually.."will I fukk em WILL I diss em.."

[Sumjoo aka LC]

umm,,its actually.."will I fukk em WILL I diss em.."
thanks for making a difference :rolleyes:

[shaolinshadowboxing]

lol...AEOM and LAD are classics. This shouldn't even be discussed. Both were monumental for hip-hop. Both were epic. Both had soooo many classic songs embedded within each of the 4 discs, that the 'fillers' here and there are more than excused. AEOM is a cornerstone of westcoast hip-hop, and LAD of eastcoast hip-hop, period.
Irregardless of your own personal standards of classic-branding, the majority of hip-hop fans (note I didn't say SOHH, AHH or any other messageboard) do regard both albums as classic. And that's all that matters. The popular opinion is the deciding opinion. Are both albums widely regarded as classics? Yessir.
And you talking about fillers, right? Doesn't MMLP have fillers? Don't you regard it as a classic? Exactly.

I know LAD and AEOM are certified consensus classics, but why leave it at that. Then we can't even talk about it. I'm just saying, I don't think either is quality enough to be considered a classic. We're dealing with a couple of the most overrated albums ever here in terms of quality (filler is never excusable). No doubting the impact and influence of the albums, which put them in classic status. I'm just talking about the quality, which isn't classic material to me.

MMLP fillers - The Real Slim Shady, and maybe Under the Influence. That is all. And the worst skit of all time if you wanna count that :gag:

Only a handful of albums are filler free. One or two slip ups in the midst of other incredible material, and it can still be classic. Problem is, LAD doesn't have so much incredible material, and it has more than a few fillers.

[fundz]

I know LAD and AEOM are certified consensus classics, but why leave it at that. Then we can't even talk about it. I'm just saying, I don't think either is quality enough to be considered a classic. We're dealing with a couple of the most overrated albums ever here in terms of quality (filler is never excusable). No doubting the impact and influence of the albums, which put them in classic status. I'm just talking about the quality, which isn't classic material to me.
MMLP fillers - The Real Slim Shady, and maybe Under the Influence. That is all. And the worst skit of all time if you wanna count that :gag:
Only a handful of albums are filler free. One or two slip ups in the midst of other incredible material, and it can still be classic. Problem is, LAD doesn't have so much incredible material, and it has more than a few fillers.

But you straight up contradicting yourself. Kim, the two you mentioned, Amityville are all critically flawed components in this single disc offering: so why is it a classic to you?

These technicalities don't mean sh*t in the grand scheme of things and consensus classics are indeed the only classics. If you got an album or two that you personally regard as classic, that's to you. It won't stand in an argument or a discussion.

[Asante1010]

I've a;ways like Amityville, Bizzare's verse kinda ruins the flow but its brief

[mike kane]

Lol @ people taking 7-8 standout songs outta 20+ and STILL saying it's a classic..


For me personally, a classic album has to be cohesive and that is RARELY the case with double albums.


I mean, if Big & Pac never died, y'all wouldn't have held AEOM & LAD in such high esteem.

[Hell On Earth]

Rtd>>>>>>>>>>lad

[mike kane]

Rtd>>>>>>>>>>lad



By FAR!

[shaolinshadowboxing]

But you straight up contradicting yourself. Kim, the two you mentioned, Amityville are all critically flawed components in this single disc offering: so why is it a classic to you?
These technicalities don't mean sh*t in the grand scheme of things and consensus classics are indeed the only classics. If you got an album or two that you personally regard as classic, that's to you. It won't stand in an argument or a discussion.

Although Kim might be too much for some to take, it's still a creative and lyrically great track. Eminem crying, yelling as Kim and all that, crazy track. Probably a love it or hate it one, but I think it's definitely a good track. Certainly a lot more creative than I Got a Story to Tell at least. Eminem's second verse on Amityville is insane as well, great track, far from filler.

Basically what you're saying is that individual opinions don't matter and nobody should be able to sway from the consensus, and that it's not worth talking about and won't hold up in any discussion. I disagree, what is the point of this thread then? And how do we know all the consensus classics? How do you know MMLP isn't one?

[fundz]

Although Kim might be too much for some to take, it's still a creative and lyrically great track. Eminem crying, yelling as Kim and all that, crazy track. Probably a love it or hate it one, but I think it's definitely a good track.

lol...it's beyond awful. Worse than any given song on AEOM or LAD.

Certainly a lot more creative than I Got a Story to Tell at least.

:laugh:

Eminem's second verse on Amityville is insane as well, great track, far from filler.

So we ignoring BIZARRE'S god awful verse. That's what fillers are made of.

Basically what you're saying is that individual opinions don't matter and nobody should be able to sway from the consensus, and that it's not worth talking about and won't hold up in any discussion

No. That's not what I'm saying at all. You can sway from classics all you want and sling out your opinions on what's classic and what isn't, but that's not going to mean sh*t at the end of the day because classic albums are a matter of consensus. That's the only way the notion stands. It's the reason I can bring up albums like Illmatic, RTD, MATW, and so on as genuine classics with almost everyone agreeing. It's a matter of popularity amongst the listeners.

what is the point of this thread then? And how do we know all the consensus classics? How do you know MMLP isn't one?

This thread is stupid though. And I think a better question would be how do we NOT know the concensus classics? They're the ones that get name-checked daily. The ones that are unanimously agreed upon. They're self-evident. And I'd say MMLP is one. But it has fillers. Hence disproving your logic of only filler-free albums being classic.

[Art Barr]

Although Kim might be too much for some to take, it's still a creative and lyrically great track. Eminem crying, yelling as Kim and all that, crazy track. Probably a love it or hate it one, but I think it's definitely a good track. Certainly a lot more creative than I Got a Story to Tell at least. Eminem's second verse on Amityville is insane as well, great track, far from filler.
Basically what you're saying is that individual opinions don't matter and nobody should be able to sway from the consensus, and that it's not worth talking about and won't hold up in any discussion. I disagree, what is the point of this thread then? And how do we know all the consensus classics? How do you know MMLP isn't one?


kim is one of the best phuck a b!tch songs in the history of rap.

expert storytelling, and he even has characterization and employs emotion and tones to the best of his ability ever.

anyone hating on kim, needs to check themselves.

kim is certified phuck a b!tch goodness that is in the hall of fame, for phuck a b!tch records.

only record that outdoes it is g rap's, beat'n my b1tches a55 goat moment of lore.
eminem's kim was on an album, and was mixed to perfection. when normally a song of that magnitude was usually shun'd at labels, and left off the tracklisting.



art barr

[shaolinshadowboxing]

lol...it's beyond awful. Worse than any given song on AEOM or LAD.
Your opinion but I strongly disagree. Eminem takes you through what is going on with all the emotion involved and even voices Kim, amazing storytelling.
So we ignoring BIZARRE'S god awful verse. That's what fillers are made of.
It's only a few bars anyway. Not much longer than those couple of lines from What's Beef :gag:
And I'd say MMLP is one. But it has fillers. Hence disproving your logic of only filler-free albums being classic.
i never said only filler-free albums are classic.

Only a handful of albums are filler free. One or two slip ups in the midst of other incredible material, and it can still be classic.