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TheMechanic
05-15-08, 08:50 PM
Was Dre and Em even at the video shoot when Suge came thur? And Cube had no choice, the Mexican Mafia was about to start a race war.

Taktical
05-15-08, 08:51 PM
I knew a little about the whole turf thing, Oakland is very much like DC in that aspect. I just don't know who hails from where since i've never been to the bay before.
Cali is crazy as fukk tho...:laugh:
My boy in my group from ghostown as well and he said that back in the day the bloods n crips actually tried to come into oakland but its citizens WERENT feelin it at all.....Also gotta realize that A LOT of powerful Black Panthers are from Oakland to......along with their families

TheMechanic
05-15-08, 08:58 PM
I keep hearin about how gully the Bay is. I only road thru thru on the Bay Bridge, but I refuse to believe the bay is more Gully than parts of Watts and South LA.

Razor52
05-15-08, 10:26 PM
I keep hearin about how gully the Bay is. I only road thru thru on the Bay Bridge, but I refuse to believe the bay is more Gully than parts of Watts and South LA.

its pointless to argue who has the baddest hood, but the bay dont play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EAvqpM2cXU

TheSpokenWords
05-15-08, 10:32 PM
Was Dre and Em even at the video shoot when Suge came thur? And Cube had no choice, the Mexican Mafia was about to start a race war.B-Real is a half Black-cuban/mexican blood the mexican mafia was not going to start a race war for cypress hill

Muggs was talking out of his ass on that beef DVD . Muggs isnt even from the west coast

TheMechanic
05-15-08, 10:35 PM
B-Real is a half Black-cuban/mexican blood the mexican mafia was not going to start a race war for cypress hill
Muggs was talking out of his ass on that beef DVD . Muggs isnt even from the west coast



Damn, BReal aint Mexican? I thought WC and Mac10 said it as well. In LA, Mexican's fukkin luv Cypress Hill. Aint Muggs a white dude?

TWEEZE
05-15-08, 10:40 PM
I keep hearin about how gully the Bay is. I only road thru thru on the Bay Bridge, but I refuse to believe the bay is more Gully than parts of Watts and South LA.


dude its go's DOWN out here

and it's like 102 degrees :laugh:

West Coast Real Gs
05-15-08, 10:42 PM
I keep hearin about how gully the Bay is. I only road thru thru on the Bay Bridge, but I refuse to believe the bay is more Gully than parts of Watts and South LA.

As far as crime rate goes, theres no place in America that has a higher crime rate then the bay.

What people dont realize about the bay, is that it is small, but the bodys still get tallied up here.

South Cali has so many more people so it makes more news.

But as far as being stuck in the wrong hood, I dont think any hood any where else in America would want it with most of the hoods in the bay. I mean rappers are even scared to do concerts in Oakland anymore. You had rappers who thought people had street cred like Hot Boys came out here and got ****ed up for they chains.

Which by the way you can add that.

Hot Boys chain by Cali/Oakland

As far as the turf/gangs **** its like that in most citys in the bay. Its not "colors this I bang that" its "im from the east" or "im from the murda west"

its about sides of cities, blocks, and neighborhoods. The **** is serious.


edit: and yeah its ****ing 100 degrees out of no where. How it goes from 80 to 100 is just beyond me can we at least build up to the heat? Why couldnt it go 80, 85, 90, 95, 100? Just skipped the 90s completely.

Cant_Get_Right!
05-15-08, 10:42 PM
Tru Life started talking reckless and said something along the lines of him not wanting to hear anything from the west coast,didnt wanna see another khaki suit,jheri curl,or lowrider.

alotta dudes took offense to that and since he rolls with young dre. so a bunch it was on site with him. that one happened like 2 years ago. DK no deal from Rich Rollin 100s was waiting for tru to come to LA so he could handle him

Cant_Get_Right!
05-15-08, 10:46 PM
what happened with the situation with b-real and cube? they said the ni99a whooped cubes ass and took his chain :laugh:

KAM is cubes cousin. he is down with a dude named solo. story went that Solo pulled up to the light and cube was there and they got into a fight. Solo ends up taking cubes W chain and his watch. Mack 10 took offense because b real was rocking the chain at a house of blues concert. then King of Hill came out.

West Coast Real Gs
05-15-08, 10:48 PM
its pointless to argue who has the baddest hood, but the bay dont play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EAvqpM2cXU
Hunters Point has homeless people that eat your face.

I **** with hunters point people. Hunters Point used to have that club Boon Docks that **** used to be real good at times had some of the baddest asian females slide through even though it was hardly touching hunters point

Cant_Get_Right!
05-15-08, 10:49 PM
Damn, BReal aint Mexican? I thought WC and Mac10 said it as well. In LA, Mexican's fukkin luv Cypress Hill. Aint Muggs a white dude?

muggs is like norweigan and italian or some weird combo like that. last name is muggeroud or something like that. WC never got into the beef with cypress hill. Mack 10 called out B Real for saying he was from swans but he had never heard of him before.

SubLyminalz
05-15-08, 10:49 PM
As far as crime rate goes, theres no place in America that has a higher crime rate then the bay.

What people dont realize about the bay, is that it is small, but the bodys still get tallied up here.

South Cali has so many more people so it makes more news.

But as far as being stuck in the wrong hood, I dont think any hood any where else in America would want it with most of the hoods in the bay. I mean rappers are even scared to do concerts in Oakland anymore. You had rappers who thought people had street cred like Hot Boys came out here and got ****ed up for they chains.

Which by the way you can add that.

Hot Boys chain by Cali/Oakland

As far as the turf/gangs **** its like that in most citys in the bay. Its not "colors this I bang that" its "im from the east" or "im from the murda west"

its about sides of cities, blocks, and neighborhoods. The **** is serious.


edit: and yeah its ****ing 100 degrees out of no where. How it goes from 80 to 100 is just beyond me can we at least build up to the heat? Why couldnt it go 80, 85, 90, 95, 100? Just skipped the 90s completely.
the bay has 2 of the top 20 largest cities in the country, i wouldn't call it small

Cant_Get_Right!
05-15-08, 10:51 PM
add baby n wayne to the list

TheMechanic
05-15-08, 10:51 PM
muggs is like norweigan and italian or some weird combo like that. last name is muggeroud or something like that. WC never got into the beef with cypress hill. Mack 10 called out B Real for saying he was from swans but he had never heard of him before.



Wasn't that Mexican Mafia sh*t real though? That dvd wasn't the first time I heard someone say that they was about to get involved. Every Mexican I know got a Cypress Hill CD. They fukkin love them n8ggaz.



And what gangs are in the bay?

TheSpokenWords
05-15-08, 10:51 PM
Damn, BReal aint Mexican? I thought WC and Mac10 said it as well. In LA, Mexican's fukkin luv Cypress Hill. Aint Muggs a white dude?hes half mexican and black cuban . Sin Dog is black cuban but he is not a sureno hes a blood so i highly doubt the mexicans mafia would care about b-real

West Coast Real Gs
05-15-08, 10:54 PM
the bay has 2 of the top 20 largest cities in the country, i wouldn't call it small
I was talking more driving wise. You can drive from Fairfield to San Fran in 45 minutes hour with no traffic.

Cant_Get_Right!
05-15-08, 10:54 PM
Wasn't that Mexican Mafia sh*t real though? That dvd wasn't the first time I heard someone say that they was about to get involved. Every Mexican I know got a Cypress Hill CD. They fukkin love them n8ggaz.

it wasnt really mexican mafia thing. when the beef started people started taking sides. and cypress hill was deep on the latin/chicano/mexican tip back in the day so the ese's were siding with them. people were just worried that the WSC/ Cypress Hill Beef would turn into a black n brown war.and with the ese's running LA it would been bloody.

West Coast Real Gs
05-15-08, 10:58 PM
Wasn't that Mexican Mafia sh*t real though? That dvd wasn't the first time I heard someone say that they was about to get involved. Every Mexican I know got a Cypress Hill CD. They fukkin love them n8ggaz.
And what gangs are in the bay?
Theres some bloods in fillmore but theres individual cliques from cities and hoods that people claim that I guess you can call gangs cause they stick together


perfect example would be SOD in Richmond. I posted this article a week or two ago

The gang rivalry that led to the death of 15-year-old honor student in her Richmond home last week began a decade ago when a group of Asian American students banded together to protect each other from bullies.

But some of the youths, whose parents and grandparents were transplanted to the East Bay from centuries-old villages in remote highlands of Laos and Vietnam, formed street gangs and turned to drug-dealing, stealing cars and engaging in drive-by shootings -- often on each other, according to police and community leaders.

"They adopted the worst things about American culture,'' said Torm Nompraseurt, the uncle of Chan Boonkeut, the girl killed late Monday when a bullet fired through the front door of her family's home struck her in the head. "They killed my niece for no reason," said Nompraseurt, who is also an East Bay Laotian community leader. "It was just foolish and tragic.''

Chan, a student leader at her high school, was buried Saturday after a memorial service in Richmond where relatives and friends wept as they filed past her open casket.

Police say members of one gang, known as the Sons of Death, fired more than a dozen rounds into the Boonkeut home in an apparent effort to kill her older brother, who allegedly has ties to a rival gang, the Color of Blood.

Two days later, two brothers, ages 19 and 22 and alleged members of the Sons of Death, were arrested in connection with the shooting. The younger one has been charged with murder. The older one is being held on unrelated warrants but may also be charged with the girl's slaying.

Investigators believe the Sons of Death were trying to avenge a recent incident in which some Color of Blood members sprayed about 20 bullets at them at an exit off Interstate 80 in Richmond. The groups have also been linked to at least one homicide and several nonfatal shootings in recent weeks, police say.

The attacks are part of an increasingly violent rivalry that has gone on so long that authorities don't remember exactly how gang members began turning against each other.

"No one seems to know why these wars started,'' said Detective Manjit Sappal, an Asian gang expert with the Richmond Police Department. "I've done a lot of interviews. It goes on and on. But no one can really explain it.''

Both gangs are primarily made up of second-generation Laotian and Vietnamese immigrants whose parents came over from the least-developed mountain regions.

Their core members come from hill tribes -- the Khmu, the Mien and the Hmong. These tribes, minorities in Laos, were armed by the CIA and fought on the side of the U.S. government in the Vietnam War. After the Communists took over Laos and Vietnam in 1975, thousands of villagers were relocated to the Bay Area and San Joaquin Valley.

The adults -- if lucky enough to find jobs -- often ended up working long hours as janitors or construction laborers with little time to help their kids.

"Many of the young people don't really see where they fit in,'' said Bang Karnsouvong, who counsels Southeast Asian youth at Gompers High School, an alternative school in Richmond. "The parents are working long hours and don't know how to help their kids. The kids in gangs, they pretty much grew up on their own. They don't relate to their parents.''

The Sons of Death began informally in the West Contra Costa public schools as young Asian American boys banded together to keep from being picked on by African American and Latino neighbors, gang experts say.

"In the early '90s, these immigrants started forming loose alliances to protect themselves,'' Sappal said. "When it started out, they were in tough neighborhoods just trying to avoid getting picked on at school. These groups evolved into gangs that are now into a lot of different criminal activity.''

Many smaller groups gradually became part of the Sons of Death. The Color of Blood apparently started when some young men feuded with the leadership of Sons of Death and broke off, police say.

The two groups were at odds in Oakland in July 1997, when 7-year-old Sou Sio Saephanh was shot to death in his parents' driveway by gunmen who fired from a passing car. The gang members were trying to kill one of his older brothers, Oakland police said.

Most criminal justice statistics show that Asian Americans as a whole are less likely to become involved in crime than virtually any other group. But studies that have looked at crime rates among specific Asian ethnic groups have found that young people of Laotian descent are more likely to commit crimes than whites or Latinos.

One study showed that in Contra Costa County, 10 percent of the juveniles on probation are highland Laotians, a group that makes up less than 2 percent of the county's population.

Karnsouvong said the individualism and assertiveness that are valued in America run counter to the old village culture in Indochina, where working together is valued. Parents view their children as selfish and disrespectful. The kids see the parents as irrelevant.

"You used to just see Asian people always at the top of their high schools,'' Karnsouvong said. "But there are lots of kids who don't make it in school who drop out or end up in continuation school. These are the kids we really need to reach. A lot of people didn't notice this problem until Chan was killed.''


But you got your Black Panthers in Oakland, Italian Mafia (you do not want to **** with these people) in San Fran, Triads all over. The big names that I bet you would find in any popular place like New York and LA.

But its mostly "EAST OAKLAND IN HERE" or ****. People wear hats that symbolize where they from though like North Richmond where New York Yankee hat.

TheMechanic
05-15-08, 10:59 PM
Yall n*ggaz know too much about gangs.

On a side note, Mexicans were smart how they took over the streets. Its like they got lil mexicans taking pride in goin to jail or some sh*t. some of them fukkers really believe they in a war. I remember visitin someone in Pelican Bay, Mexicans were everywhere in that b*tch. What brothas gon do when the Mexican's take over the bay too? If it aint already happened.

kingofdayay
05-15-08, 11:03 PM
Theres some bloods in fillmore but theres individual cliques from cities and hoods that people claim that I guess you can call gangs cause they stick together
perfect example would be SOD in Richmond. I posted this article a week or two ago
But you got your Black Panthers in Oakland, Italian Mafia (you do not want to **** with these people) in San Fran, Triads all over. The big names that I bet you would find in any popular place like New York and LA.
But its mostly "EAST OAKLAND IN HERE" or ****. People wear hats that symbolize where they from though like North Richmond where New York Yankee hat.yep...central buss the colorado rockies or cincy reds...parchester village buss phillies...souf rich buss frisco giants

West Coast Real Gs
05-15-08, 11:05 PM
Yall n*ggaz know too much about gangs.
On a side note, Mexicans were smart how they took over the streets. Its like they got lil mexicans taking pride in goin to jail or some sh*t. some of them fukkers really believe they in a war. I remember visitin someone in Pelican Bay, Mexicans were everywhere in that b*tch. What brothas gon do when the Mexican's take over the bay too? If it aint already happened.

Well where I live im the only one on my block under 30 who hasnt been to jail/prison yet (got a few in San Quientin as we speak)

but I work at Mr Bling in Vallejo (gold grills) so from that and really being out there in all the different areas I get to meet and see a lot of things.

Every Saturday me(east fairfield), my big homie(north richmond), and my other homie(hunters point) take a trip around the bay to see the deals on clothes and rims and ****. We start with the Oakland flea market, then go to International for the philly cheese steak house and international market, then head to central Richmond, then hilltop, then maybe some smoke shops in vallejo, then back to Fairfield mall and call it a day until night time where we go whereever its at.

Just get to soak up everything in all the cities. I listed where my peoples is from is because we frequent go to where they at and I get to meet all those people there as well.

Cant_Get_Right!
05-15-08, 11:05 PM
Yall n*ggaz know too much about gangs.
On a side note, Mexicans were smart how they took over the streets. Its like they got lil mexicans taking pride in goin to jail or some sh*t. some of them fukkers really believe they in a war. I remember visitin someone in Pelican Bay, Mexicans were everywhere in that b*tch. What brothas gon do when the Mexican's take over the bay too? If it aint already happened.

lol with 10 million mexicans in the state you better have control over the streets. mexicans run the jails too.

we from cali we are gonna know more about gangs/turf than any other place but chicago.ill leave the knowledge on tight jeans to NY

West Coast Real Gs
05-15-08, 11:06 PM
yep...central buss the colorado rockies or cincy reds...parchester village buss phillies...souf rich buss frisco giants
I been seeing more reds hat then rockies hat though. Was just at a party in central 2 weeks ago didnt see a lot of rockies hats.

TWEEZE
05-15-08, 11:10 PM
muggs is like norweigan and italian or some weird combo like that. last name is muggeroud or something like that. WC never got into the beef with cypress hill. Mack 10 called out B Real for saying he was from swans but he had never heard of him before.


i think he is originally form queens but reps the west coast

go figure

THE GERM
05-15-08, 11:13 PM
lol with 10 million mexicans in the state you better have control over the streets. mexicans run the jails too.

we from cali we are gonna know more about gangs/turf than any other place but chicago.ill leave the knowledge on tight jeans to NY
not too mention everybody has family, friends, or both involved so the knowledge of certain things is gonna get passed around.

TWEEZE
05-15-08, 11:17 PM
Yall n*ggaz know too much about gangs.
On a side note, Mexicans were smart how they took over the streets. Its like they got lil mexicans taking pride in goin to jail or some sh*t. some of them fukkers really believe they in a war. I remember visitin someone in Pelican Bay, Mexicans were everywhere in that b*tch. What brothas gon do when the Mexican's take over the bay too? If it aint already happened.


the latian' out here are cool with the brothers they act just like n!ggaz
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TheMechanic
05-15-08, 11:21 PM
Its funny, The Bay seems like one of them southern cities. Like ATL or NO or some sh*t. Yall n*gs got alot of southern tendacies.

West Coast Real Gs
05-15-08, 11:25 PM
Its funny, The Bay seems like one of them southern cities. Like ATL or NO or some sh*t. Yall n*gs got alot of southern tendacies.


Actually the bay is ignorant to the rest of the world for the most part. A lot of people in the bay, never really gone any where else but the bay and thats all they know and thats how they live. Even music wise, I bet if I walked down International and asked 25 random people who Outkast was, maybe 10 would know.

As far as the independant rap game goes, people just hear about it. Its different when you live it. When you see vans with whole cd logos and **** on itand the rappers is really out here at barber shops and **** passing out samples and ****

TWEEZE
05-15-08, 11:30 PM
Actually the bay is ignorant to the rest of the world for the most part. A lot of people in the bay, never really gone any where else but the bay and thats all they know and thats how they live. Even music wise, I bet if I walked down International and asked 25 random people who Outkast was, maybe 10 would know.
As far as the independant rap game goes, people just hear about it. Its different when you live it. When you see vans with whole cd logos and **** on itand the rappers is really out here at barber shops and **** passing out samples and ****


THE BAY IS WAY FASTER THEN L.A. IMO :laugh:

Ray Barboni
05-15-08, 11:33 PM
THE BAY IS WAY FASTER THEN L.A. IMO :laugh:

I was about to say the same thing...

89oakland_blackouts
05-15-08, 11:33 PM
Actually the bay is ignorant to the rest of the world for the most part. A lot of people in the bay, never really gone any where else but the bay and thats all they know and thats how they live. Even music wise, I bet if I walked down International and asked 25 random people who Outkast was, maybe 10 would know.
As far as the independant rap game goes, people just hear about it. Its different when you live it. When you see vans with whole cd logos and **** on itand the rappers is really out here at barber shops and **** passing out samples and ****
word. I've lived in the east bay my whole life and things are crazy out here no joke. if you scrape through a gang of oakland cats repping north richmond you will get shot at more often than not. I said eff oakland once at my school(in pinole) I got jumped attempted stabbing, shot at, lol them cats don't play. its not gangs out here its turfs and drug wars. we all walk around with something to prove so if you come out here thinking you're hard be prepared to get tested, and even if you got hands I hope you got yourself a gun.

Taadow
05-15-08, 11:36 PM
Yall n*ggaz know too much about gangs.


Sheeit, we ain't had no choice! lol

Taadow
05-15-08, 11:40 PM
Its funny, The Bay seems like one of them southern cities. Like ATL or NO or some sh*t. Yall n*gs got alot of southern tendacies.

All big cities is like that. When black folk got to lookin' for work and land around the turn of last century, they spread all the way out. That's why you got country type nigguhs in Detroit, St. Louis, Yay, Chicago, Kansas City, L.A., and Tulsa.

Cant_Get_Right!
05-16-08, 12:00 AM
Actually the bay is ignorant to the rest of the world for the most part. A lot of people in the bay, never really gone any where else but the bay and thats all they know and thats how they live. Even music wise, I bet if I walked down International and asked 25 random people who Outkast was, maybe 10 would know.
As far as the independant rap game goes, people just hear about it. Its different when you live it. When you see vans with whole cd logos and **** on itand the rappers is really out here at barber shops and **** passing out samples and ****


the bay is literally like another world.

they dont care about what anyone else is doing.

Phukk Tha World
05-16-08, 12:16 AM
yep...central buss the colorado rockies or cincy reds...parchester village buss phillies...souf rich buss frisco giants
look like bay n*ggaz finally got on that LA cap/turf sh*t..... ain't that a b*tch? a n*gga gon have to watch wut he sportin' when i slide thru tha rich now.....

TheMechanic
05-16-08, 12:19 AM
look like bay n*ggaz finally got on that LA cap/turf sh*t.....



N*gga is that you in your avi? If it is and I see you around my house I'm shootin and askin questions later.:ohmy: How many n8ggaz you killed in your lifetime?:unsure:

West Coast Real Gs
05-16-08, 12:22 AM
look like bay n*ggaz finally got on that LA cap/turf sh*t..... ain't that a b*tch? a n*gga gon have to watch wut he sportin' when i slide thru tha rich now.....


I dont think its cause of LA I think it was just a way to separate people in the function so people dont get confused on who they about to get loose on, and other **** like that

kingofdayay
05-16-08, 12:27 AM
N*gga is that you in your avi? If it is and I see you around my house I'm shootin and askin questions later.:ohmy: How many n8ggaz you killed in your lifetime?:unsure:on some real sh!t...nicca make kimbo slice look like richard simmons

TheMechanic
05-16-08, 12:29 AM
on some real sh!t...nicca make kimbo slice look like richard simmons




:laugh: I'm sayin, some n*ggaz just should not take pictures. N*gga look like he breakin in somebody's crib right when they snapped the pic.:smh:

Cant_Get_Right!
05-16-08, 12:30 AM
I dont think its cause of LA I think it was just a way to separate people in the function so people dont get confused on who they about to get loose on, and other **** like that

C/s you just have so many different hoods and everyone rocking the same thing would just be to confusing just because the hoods you beef with will rock the same thing you do.
hat sales are way up because of hood niiggas. you got cats rocking marlins hats from FHCC and they couldnt tell you who luis castillo was if their life depended on it.

Cant_Get_Right!
05-16-08, 12:32 AM
add

daz n kurupt to the list.

anyone remember kurupt losing a arm wrestling match to lady of rage?

honorable mention to the LAPD

got sued by DJ Quik and he won.

West Coast Real Gs
05-16-08, 12:39 AM
I heard when Cam'Ron came out here for a concert and was on 106 for interview he said he wanted to see the bay hoods so they took him to richmond and someone got bodied at the projects he was visiting.

I cant find proof of it though so you can chalk it up as ducktales or whatever

Cant_Get_Right!
05-16-08, 12:55 AM
I heard when Cam'Ron came out here for a concert and was on 106 for interview he said he wanted to see the bay hoods so they took him to richmond and someone got bodied at the projects he was visiting.

I cant find proof of it though so you can chalk it up as ducktales or whatever

i believe it.

adds

common* but actually had the balls to do something about it
chino xl
bad boy records
bow wow

dishonorable mention

uncle murder- a rapper didnt even have to do it. couldnt even make it outta the airport.

THE GERM
05-16-08, 12:59 AM
N*gga is that you in your avi? If it is and I see you around my house I'm shootin and askin questions later.:ohmy: How many n8ggaz you killed in your lifetime?:unsure:

:confused: i thought that was mc eiht.

Master Ryker
05-16-08, 01:01 AM
BCC came through and got daps. cali niccas looked up to them

Cole Cash
05-16-08, 01:02 AM
Heh...maybe lil wayne and them should come back here to the bay, lets see if they actually make it off the tour bus this time.

Taadow
05-16-08, 01:03 AM
*adds Q-Tip*

THE GERM
05-16-08, 01:17 AM
*adds dresta & eazy-e

TWEEZE
05-16-08, 01:19 AM
krs one got owned in OAKLAND LMAO