I'm completely baffled/amazed at how irrelevent Eminem is to the general public...

[SakuragiGT]

What in the fukk happened? I mean, wow....at one point during the Em Show/8 Mile era dude was undeniably on top of the world but now....does anyone even give a fukk about him anymore?

So what did it? The fall off of his flow? Horrible (Encore) to mediocre (Re-Up) efforts)? Signing of 50? Redundant topics/formula (I hate my mom, girlfriend, cornball lead off single)? Or did people just move on?

[Joegavepapthebeats]

wayne>>>>>>>>>>>eminem with that being said eminem will always go platinum dudes like hannah montana n1gga will aways sell doesn't matter if his a racist the industry n1ggaz will always d1ckride him :gag:

[MattPenis315]

em is far from irrelevant, but i see what you're saying...he's just taking a break, i mean, dude hasn't even been in the public eye in over a year, so of course we're not gonna hear about him as much as we did a couple years ago, but whenever he DOES decide to come back, you can gaurentee homie's gonna do big numbers.

[Niko_86]

Eminem fell back & took a break, dude wants to live a normal life and raise his daughter, 50 is out there making money for him so it aint no problem the last time I checked (Encore) was multi-platinuim & (Shady Re-Up) was platinuim.


Get the fukk outta here with that fell off bullsh!t, dude takes a break and he is considered to have fell off?:dry:

[Roxx the King]

shock thread

[DnH_amaziN]

em is something like 35 years old and probably tired of the fame anyhow, listen to "the way i am".

[DjMe]

musicians cant last if theyre disingenuine, and the ones who DO last, write music that explores their emotions, and people can relate to.

musicians that blow up to huge degrees and fade out... theyre just a product of marketing. its been happening forever. lil wayne is the big name today, just like 50 was, and jay, and whoever else... an image is sold to you that is "cool"... when that "coolness" factor is imitated and adored by millions of fans, it no longer becomes "cool." it becomes embarassing. that is why 10 years ago every girl in the world was in love with the backstreet boys, nsync, whatever, now they laugh about it or even worse deny it.

eminem made the jump from artistic integrity to fabricated image when he started with the gangster thing. it catapulted him to heights of fame even higher than the marshal mathers/slim shady era, but the music was fake. eventually, his fans realized that he wasnt a gangster, they werent gangsters, they didnt want to be gangsters, and they were embarassed to listen to him.

in 2 years, there will be no lil wayne fans, just like there are no 50 fans now.

it is flash in the pan marketing, geared towards 15-24 year old males.

[MattPenis315]

Eminem fell back & took a break, dude wants to live a normal life and raise his daughter, 50 is out there making money for him so it aint no problem the last time I checked (Encore) was multi-platinuim & (Shady Re-Up) was platinuim.
Get the fukk outta here with that fell off bullsh!t, dude takes a break and he is considered to have fell off?:dry:

em can still go platinum just because of his name alone, just like i'm sure his next album will, there's no doubt about that...but i get what the thread starter is saying, it IS crazy when you look at how big em used to be just a couple years ago. just wait until his next album comes out and then we'll see what's up.

[khrys_x]

He's been irrelevant in urban crowds since sometime after his 2nd album, he's been considered corny and lame for quite some time...but the reason he faded on a mainstream level is because he stopped putting out albums...that Re-Up mixtape went platinum off the strength of nothing but dude's name...that single that they released for it got absolutely ZERO airplay on urban radio, and I don't think it did anything on the pop charts...sold over a million copies based off nothing but "Eminem presents" on the cover...the people that bought that album will support him whenever he chooses to come back out...

[HuSTLe314]

He's been irrelevant in urban crowds since sometime after his 2nd album, he's been considered corny and lame for quite some time...but the reason he faded on a mainstream level is because he stopped putting out albums...that Re-Up mixtape went platinum off the strength of nothing but dude's name...that single that they released for it got absolutely ZERO airplay on urban radio, and I don't think it did anything on the pop charts...sold over a million copies based off nothing but "Eminem presents" on the cover...the people that bought that album will support him whenever he chooses to come back out...


you always have the most coherent post in threads like these. The difference between em falling off and other rappers falling off, is that whenever em decides to get back "on" per se, its going to happen automatically. That man can make a single where he records himself takin a sh1t and makes it a hook, dude still going triple platinum, count on it. He has a serious fanbase that will support him no matter what he decides to do, including taking a break from the spotlight as he is now. Was every aspect of his life supposed to be on access granted or something? Let the man live a normal life for a minute, damn.

[euro dirt]

eminem fans have grown up

[Sunzoo aka LC]

lol@ n1ggas not knowing the definition of irrelevance

he hasn't even put out a studio album in damn near 5 years, his greatest hits, a CD full of songs that people already have, plus two or three of his wackest songs to date did like 2 mill

his "mixtape" that only had him on about 5 songs, RECENTLY went platinum with one "street single" that got very little radio time or air play, so really, what in the fucck are you talking about?

if there is anybody that is going to drop an album, and do numbers reminiscent of yestyear, it's going to be em

[HiphopDude420]

Game got some Em and 50 fans that grew up

That's a true statement

Probably more 50 fans..:laugh:

[Sunzoo aka LC]

eminem fans have grown up

eminem fans, haven't gotten an album going on 4 years duke

[MRc.]

He hasn't tried to be relevant though. he'd have put out material if so.

If eminem came out and said an album was coming out in 2 months, the world would go crazy.

[Mr.Omega]

As long as there are white people Eminem will sell.

[Rogoooo]

no soul in his music

the economy is bad,gas prices,war,and other atrocities make Em irrelevant

lacks depth

times are real now..playtime is over

[OxyContin]

Eminem fell back & took a break, dude wants to live a normal life and raise his daughter, 50 is out there making money for him so it aint no problem the last time I checked (Encore) was multi-platinuim & (Shady Re-Up) was platinuim.
Get the fukk outta here with that fell off bullsh!t, dude takes a break and he is considered to have fell off?:dry:

co-sizzle.

Eminem can come back any moment and sell a million.

You know who fell off, Ja Rule...

[ChiTownStunna]

If MTV and all the hip hop sites started pushing Em's 'Comeback' Album...his sh*t would go platinum in about a week.

[NotSoft]

I forcasted this yrs ago...the streets dont care about eminem...he will always be relevant in the minds of white people but who cares...white people dont decide whos a legend in hiphop and who aint the streets do....i told u he'd be a footnote in this rap sh1t.

[ChiTownStunna]

I forcasted this yrs ago...the streets dont care about eminem...he will always be relevant in the minds of white people but who cares...white people dont decide whos a legend in hiphop and who aint the streets do....i told u he'd be a footnote in this rap sh1t.
Ummmm

Just to let you know if you ask some of legends in the game Nas Jay Redman alot of heads where Em is considered in rap and they'd say he is one of the best. So the streets don't mean sh*t its his peers that decide what his career has contributed to rap. And at one point in time Em was the number 1 rapper out.

[pop203]

i was listenin to some of his old ass freestyles this mornin that i used to be like :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy: off back when i first heard em, them sh!ts had me like :huh:, none of that sh!t sounds that impressive nomore for some reason. he made alot of dope music but i think he's a little overrated skill wise, at least he was back then when everybody was goin crazy off him.

[NotSoft]

Ummmm
Just to let you know if you ask some of legends in the game Nas Jay Redman alot of heads where Em is considered in rap and they'd say he is one of the best. So the streets don't mean sh*t its his peers that decide what his career has contributed to rap. And at one point in time Em was the number 1 rapper out.


Thats dumb as hell a legend among ya peers dont mean sh1t but that...u ill be forgotten in due time if thats ya only defense.

[Rogoooo]

society changed

like Motown switchin from pop to social issues

times are hard....and unless he got a Marvin Gaye Whats Going On in him(pause),he will stay irrelevant

add that bs music thats out but fading(snap and other bs)....

sure he'll still sell but urban communities don't fukk with him and since he can't get that c/s
no more,he'll rather fallback then look like a white popstar that he is(at least he has some pride)

[BlackBoi0385]

In todays commercial market nobody wants them corny first singles he normally drops

[bkgiggles86]

I miss Eminem

[Haze Luvah]

lol@ n1ggas not knowing the definition of irrelevance

he hasn't even put out a studio album in damn near 5 years, his greatest hits, a CD full of songs that people already have, plus two or three of his wackest songs to date did like 2 mill

his "mixtape" that only had him on about 5 songs, RECENTLY went platinum with one "street single" that got very little radio time or air play, so really, what in the fucck are you talking about?

if there is anybody that is going to drop an album, and do numbers reminiscent of yestyear, it's going to be em

Folk I want u to sit here and tell me, How many of ya boys copped any of those two albums? No one I know from a 100 mile radius bought that ****ing album. That **** sold to white america which is the majority in the U.S, so for 1 million americans to buy this white boy's album, it really doesn't impress me. Em sells off his name alone, he probably goes multi platinum off shirtless wall posters and sh!t. There's no denying he's irrelevant, dude's last albums was ass and his guest appearances been let downs. He hasn't dropped an album so I'll cut him some slack but that joint he did on T.I's sh!t was horrible...

[re'up]

musicians cant last if theyre disingenuine, and the ones who DO last, write music that explores their emotions, and people can relate to.
musicians that blow up to huge degrees and fade out... theyre just a product of marketing. its been happening forever. lil wayne is the big name today, just like 50 was, and jay, and whoever else... an image is sold to you that is "cool"... when that "coolness" factor is imitated and adored by millions of fans, it no longer becomes "cool." it becomes embarassing. that is why 10 years ago every girl in the world was in love with the backstreet boys, nsync, whatever, now they laugh about it or even worse deny it.
eminem made the jump from artistic integrity to fabricated image when he started with the gangster thing. it catapulted him to heights of fame even higher than the marshal mathers/slim shady era, but the music was fake. eventually, his fans realized that he wasnt a gangster, they werent gangsters, they didnt want to be gangsters, and they were embarassed to listen to him.
in 2 years, there will be no lil wayne fans, just like there are no 50 fans now.
it is flash in the pan marketing, geared towards 15-24 year old males.


good post, that I mostly agree with, but when did the 'gangster' image start w/ Eminem ?

[The Real]

society changed
like Motown switchin from pop to social issues
times are hard....and unless he got a Marvin Gaye Whats Going On in him(pause),he will stay irrelevantadd that bs music thats out but fading(snap and other bs)....
sure he'll still sell but urban communities don't fukk with him and since he can't get that c/s
no more,he'll rather fallback then look like a white popstar that he is(at least he has some pride)

I don't know what fantasy world you live in, but mainstream listeners aren't exactly checking for music with a message.

[MRSOUTHLONDON]

Eminem would be more relevant than your favourtie rappers combined f he decided to comeout.

And you niccas say hes irrelevant amoungst the urban market..

But believe if he drops some music you are all listening,

[pop203]

Eminem would be more relevant than your favourtie rappers combined f he decided to comeout.

And you niccas say hes irrelevant amoungst the urban market..

But believe if he drops some music you are all listening,

most of us in here just love hiphop, thats why we're here, we dont necessarily make up the average urban demographic. i can honestly say that NO ONE else besides me that i know will listen to eminem's next album.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

Folk I want u to sit here and tell me, How many of ya boys copped any of those two albums? No one I know from a 100 mile radius bought that ****ing album. That **** sold to white america which is the majority in the U.S, so for 1 million americans to buy this white boy's album, it really doesn't impress me. Em sells off his name alone, he probably goes multi platinum off shirtless wall posters and sh!t. There's no denying he's irrelevant, dude's last albums was ass and his guest appearances been let downs. He hasn't dropped an album so I'll cut him some slack but that joint he did on T.I's sh!t was horrible...

homie even i didn't buy the album...that ain't the point, and it ain't about impressing you, it's about n1ggas using words that don't fit, eminem, for whatever reasons you'd like to cite, is not IRRELEVANT, him going plat with a mixtape, is proof positive of it...if em drops a new track, or some concrete evidence about a new album comes out, n1ggas on here will flock to it, even if it's just to hate on it

i really don't think "irrelevant" is the word you cats are looking for, name me one cat that takes a 4 year hiatus and still garners attention

[Sunzoo aka LC]

most of us in here just love hiphop, thats why we're here, we dont necessarily make up the average urban demographic. i can honestly say that NO ONE else besides me that i know will listen to eminem's next album.

do you know how many black rappers i could make a list of, that don't do big in the urbab demographic? some rappers are not for that scene period, i don't know one n1gga in real life that has head a dead prez song either, n1ggas in my hood don't listen to common, talib and a host of other lyric first emcees

[MattPenis315]

name me one cat that takes a 4 year hiatus and still garners attention

jay-z, probably not as much as em though.

[pop203]

do you know how many black rappers i could make a list of, that don't do big in the urbab demographic? some rappers are not for that scene period, i don't know one n1gga in real life that has head a dead prez song either, n1ggas in my hood don't listen to common, talib and a host of other lyric first emcees

you're right, and eminem is right there in that group of n!ggas who nobody i know listens to, i agree with you. i aint sayin he's wack because of it, relax, im just sayin that i dont know anybody who's checkin for him.

[Haze Luvah]

homie even i didn't buy the album...that ain't the point, and it ain't about impressing you, it's about n1ggas using words that don't fit, eminem, for whatever reasons you'd like to cite, is not IRRELEVANT, him going plat with a mixtape, is proof positive of it...if em drops a new track, or some concrete evidence about a new album comes out, n1ggas on here will flock to it, even if it's just to hate on it
i really don't think "irrelevant" is the word you cats are looking for, name me one cat that takes a 4 year hiatus and still garners attention

Ok take that. Em is relevant to those who buy his album...more than likely white kids who only listen to Em for rap.

It just isn't relevant to me...therefore I call him IRRELEVANT..

[SubLyminalz]

i ain't heard nobody talk about eminem outside the internet in well over 2 years

[MurdaGame]

Em will sell on name alone

all i he got to do is chage that fuked up flow he been using and go back to that MMLP style

flow wise game using Em's flows sounds better than em using his own

listen to we aint:yes:

[SourHaze]

jay-z, probably not as much as em though.
Jay Never took a 4 year Hiatus.

3 year hiatus and he was still in the public eye everyday anyway cause of his Def Jam position.

[pop203]

Em will sell on name alone
all i he got to do is chage that fuked up flow he been using and go back to that MMLP style
flow wise game using Em's flows sounds better than em using his own
listen to we aint:yes:

eminem killed him on that. "eminem just killed me on my own sh!t". lol, ya hero said it himself. bad example n!gga.

[yallmakemelaugh]

He hasn't tried to be relevant though. he'd have put out material if so.

If eminem came out and said an album was coming out in 2 months, the world would go crazy.

exactly. Ems taking a break! He said it himself.

[MRSOUTHLONDON]

you're right, and eminem is right there in that group of n!ggas who nobody i know listens to, i agree with you. i aint sayin he's wack because of it, relax, im just sayin that i dont know anybody who's checkin for him.

Who they checkin for Shawty Lo? :smh:

[yallmakemelaugh]

Jay Never took a 4 year Hiatus.
3 year hiatus and he was still in the public eye everyday anyway cause of his Def Jam position.

Jay aint on Ems popularity level.

[pop203]

Who they checkin for Shawty Lo? :smh:

i heard his single more than i've ever heard any eminem song played ever around here, and i live in queens. nobody cares about no damn shatwy lo but that song definitly got some burn. yall seem to overlook the fact that eminem is white, LOL, i guess him bein white is the 1000 pound elephant in the room in this thread. aint nobody checkin for no whiteboy and its that simple, only people on him is other white people and true hiphop head type n!ggas.

[PEET C the don]

benzino happened


zno is the man, he sacrificed his own career to show the world what eminem really is

[yallmakemelaugh]

Nobodys checking for Em cause they dont know whats up wit him. Once they hear a single is coming, then his buzz will come back.

[pop203]

benzino happened
zno is the man, he sacrificed his own career to show the world what eminem really is

so what you're sayin is benzino is the hiphop version of jesus?

[euro dirt]

eminem fans, haven't gotten an album going on 4 years duke
the same kids that liked hearing eminem's crazy nonsense are 20/25years old now. im sure they've grown out of that stage

[PEET C the don]

so what you're sayin is benzino is the hiphop version of jesus?


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[baltimore]

lol, regardless of what that mixtape sold or his greatest hits he still hasn't come up in conversation in years, making him irrelevant.