from "Eminem murdered you on your own sh*t" to "Eminem's a wigger"

[Keys N Bass]

wow whiteboy lost..

[Jadan the Magishan]

You're saying it like it was a diss, but it wasn't. Nas was biggin' Em up, if anything.

[MN]

You're saying it like it was a diss, but it wasn't. Nas was biggin' Em up, if anything.

:yes:

[Sunzoo aka LC]

lol@ n1ggas reaching to turn this into a diss

[roc_com]

wow whiteboy lost..


smh at this stupid mf not getting the line. :laugh:

[Choc City]

stretch armstrong reach

[DaTruth01]

a reach but hilarious no doubt
:laugh::laugh:

[Keys N Bass]

come on now, you don't gota be stans to kick it :dry:

[HiphopDude420]

he wasnt big upin eminem

wow

u really think that was a big up?

woooow

[JUSE_HEDD]

he wasnt big upin eminem
wow
u really think that was a big up?
woooow

Uh yeah

I believe, if I'm not mistaken, he says...Eminem said n!gga, but it don't matter that's my n!gga, he's a wigga...

so yeah, Nas ain't got beef with Em...don't mean to spoil you stans wet dreams

[layziethekid]

wow whiteboy lost..

Song:The Cross
Album: God's Son
Artist: Nas
Producer: Eminem
Year: 2002 (1 year after Ether)

You Lost Stanley

[Mandizi]

You're saying it like it was a diss, but it wasn't. Nas was biggin' Em up, if anything.


basically

[Keys N Bass]

okay nah but real talk, eminem doesn't want it with nas, diss or no diss..

[roc_com]

he wasnt big upin eminem
wow
u really think that was a big up?
woooow


u do know nas named em one of his fav. mc's of all time in XXL right..and u are also aware that eminem produced the nas' joint "the cross" too right?

[THUGECATION.]

u gotta think a lil deeper...i see what homies sayin


its a very slick subliminial...believe me, nas doesnt like Em...nas a proud black dude...and that tape didnt go over well with any strong negros

eminem murdered you on your own sh1t

think about this...nas even said beans was the only ill artist on the ROC...and at that point Beans had murdered Jay on record many times...sure he wasnt on his album...but whats so funny about Em outdoing him??

cause hes white...translation of this line...a white boy out rhymed you on your album....cause trust me, if that was beans...Nas sayin "beans murdered you on your own sh1t" wouldnt have that same sting


eminem said n1gga but he my n1gga w1gga crakka friend, we all black within

they might even be friends...doesnt matter tho, this is a stab...once again Nas is pointing out that tape but sayin its cool...calls him a w1gger, and says we all black within

hes pointing out how eminem wishes he was black...cause after all the term w1gger is derived from wannabe n1gger...Nas has been goin on his little rant on how gotti's grand kids wish they were black....and this time hes pointing out Em...pretty directly


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hes on point tho

[theman080]

"Aint mad that Eminem said nicca, cuz he my nicca, wigga, cracka, friend, we all black within."

Doesn't read like a diss

[Sunzoo aka LC]

he wasnt big upin eminem
wow
u really think that was a big up?
woooow

nas is not a b1tch, he would not tip toe around the situation if he wanted to diss em, he ain't scared of dude, but he has said several times that the respects him as an artist even since the "tape"

[roc_com]

Originally Posted By THUGECATION
u gotta think a lil deeper...i see what homies sayin
its a very slick subliminial...believe me, nas doesnt like Em...

:dry: lol at u tryna create a situation where there isn't one simply put...ur reaching.


if nas didn't like em he'd come out and say it..he didn't bite his tounge when he went on that tirade against cam,nore...etc...and he didn't hold his tounge when he dropped ether..so wtf would he do it for eminem?

[gawdbondie]

Im sure Eminem will respond soon :rolleyes:

[roc_com]

Im sure Eminem will respond soon :rolleyes:


:laugh:

[THUGECATION.]

:dry: lol at u tryna create a situation where there isn't one simply put...ur reaching.
if nas didn't like em he'd come out and say it..he didn't bite his tounge when he went on that tirade against cam,nore...etc...and he didn't hold his tounge when he dropped ether..so wtf would he do it for eminem?

dawg, using cute little internet icons doesnt sway opinions

and whos sayin that nas hates em

i think he thinks of Em as most ppl do....a corny w1gger

no hate, no beef...no respect either tho...specially after the tape...even before the tape that guys been a weirdo

this is Nas...hes a serious cat, what kinda grown man respects a weird azz white boy dissin his mom, dressin up like a girl and all kinds of gay sh1t


whats happening is the average hip hop consumer...whos white...already loves nas...but also thinks of Em as TOP 5 for some reason....and u guys tryin to make this fake union between them...so much so...u dont wanna see the subliminals for what they are

[roc_com]

Originally Posted By THUGECATION

dawg, using cute little internet icons doesnt sway opinions

and whos sayin that nas hates em


Originally Posted By THUGECATION
u gotta think a lil deeper...i see what homies sayin
its a very slick subliminial...believe me, nas doesnt like Em...

[THUGECATION.]

^^

wow....kids, stay in school

[NotSoft]

u gotta think a lil deeper...i see what homies sayin
its a very slick subliminial...believe me, nas doesnt like Em...nas a proud black dude...and that tape didnt go over well with any strong negros
eminem murdered you on your own sh1t
think about this...nas even said beans was the only ill artist on the ROC...and at that point Beans had murdered Jay on record many times...sure he wasnt on his album...but whats so funny about Em outdoing him??
cause hes white...translation of this line...a white boy out rhymed you on your album....cause trust me, if that was beans...Nas sayin "beans murdered you on your own sh1t" wouldnt have that same sting
eminem said n1gga but he my n1gga w1gga crakka friend, we all black within
they might even be friends...doesnt matter tho, this is a stab...once again Nas is pointing out that tape but sayin its cool...calls him a w1gger, and says we all black within
hes pointing out how eminem wishes he was black...cause after all the term w1gger is derived from wannabe n1gger...Nas has been goin on his little rant on how gotti's grand kids wish they were black....and this time hes pointing out Em...pretty directly
---
hes on point tho



smh at Nas bein a proud black man....imagine Nat Turner throwin subliminals at racist white people.


Nat-"yes massa i kno my work out here in da field not gon CUT IT,maybe i'd do better in the house while you's asleep"

Massa-????


Nat Turner sayin this for yrs while continuing to get his azz whipped everyday wouldnt have made anybody see him as a proud black man.

[gawdbondie]

Originally Posted By THUGECATION

dawg, using cute little internet icons doesnt sway opinions

and whos sayin that nas hates em

Quote:
Originally Posted By THUGECATION
u gotta think a lil deeper...i see what homies sayin
its a very slick subliminial...believe me, nas doesnt like Em...
lmao.

[pop203]

eminem bein a wigga has nothing at all to do with him murderin jay-z on his own sh!t, what are you talkin about?

[Joegavepapthebeats]

eminem bein a wigga has nothing at all to do with him murderin jay-z on his own sh!t, what are you talkin about?
word! em's a washed up wigga @ this stage never mind nas game would kill this n1gga in a battle :yes:

[acri1]

dawg, using cute little internet icons doesnt sway opinions
and whos sayin that nas hates em
i think he thinks of Em as most ppl do....a corny w1gger
no hate, no beef...no respect either tho...specially after the tape...even before the tape that guys been a weirdo
this is Nas...hes a serious cat, what kinda grown man respects a weird azz white boy dissin his mom, dressin up like a girl and all kinds of gay sh1t
whats happening is the average hip hop consumer...whos white...already loves nas...but also thinks of Em as TOP 5 for some reason....and u guys tryin to make this fake union between them...so much so...u dont wanna see the subliminals for what they are

Nas has actually said in an interview that he likes Em.

As far as the line I don't think he's dissing Em or big upping him. It's just a commentary about how big of a deal people make about the word.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

^^
wow....kids, stay in school

lol@ this n1gga directly contradicting himself, take a nap my n1gga

Nas has actually said in an interview that he likes Em.
As far as the line I don't think he's dissing Em or big upping him. It's just a commentary about how big of a deal people make about the word.

exactly, it's not a diss, and he ain't bigging him up either, he's giving you a short hand example of what his overall point is

anybody saying that he's dissing him, or giving him props is not really listening to the track, he's saying every disrespectful racially charged name you can think of throughout the track and putting "n1gga" behind it, think for a sec

[THUGECATION.]

not liking and hate is the same thing now?


damn, its no wonder i dont post and u guys go crying like "whered Scolla go"

[fundz]

The whole song's purpose was to play down the relevance and mental burden of racial slurs by and large.

So use your f*cking head.

[HiphopDude420]

nas is not a b1tch, he would not tip toe around the situation if he wanted to diss em, he ain't scared of dude, but he has said several times that the respects him as an artist even since the "tape"

Nas is the king of subliminal rhymes

Get off the net Sunzoo, sometimes you sound very out of touch

[Sunzoo aka LC]

not liking and hate is the same thing now?
damn, its no wonder i dont post and u guys go crying like "whered Scolla go"

for one, you are claiming to be inside nas' head like some being john malcovich sh1t fam...especially when nas' actual words are to the contrary of what you saying

it went from i ain't saying nas hates em, but he's dissing him

to nas hates em, and he's stabbing him on wax

thats why people are laughing at you

[Yoda3542]

he wasnt big upin eminem
wow
u really think that was a big up?
woooow

he said he wasn't mad that Eminem said ******, cuz he's my ***** wigga cracker friend/ we all black within

stupid fukk

[HiphopDude420]

he said he wasn't mad that Eminem said ******, cuz he's my ***** wigga cracker friend/ we all black within
stupid fukk

This is Nas. Not a rapper from the south.....think about it again.

[gawdbondie]

This is Nas. Not a rapper from the south.....think about it again.
I bet you wear a helment full time...am I right?

[Sunzoo aka LC]

The whole song's purpose was to play down the relevance and mental burden of racial slurs by and large.

So use your f*cking head.

on point as usual, these n1ggas can't see the forest for the trees, i knew as soon as i heard that line, people would pick it out from the entire song and make it a separate issue

Nas is the king of subliminal rhymes
Get off the net Sunzoo, sometimes you sound very out of touch

out of touch? explain? and sometimes you sound like a retard, especially seeing how the line in question is clearly not SUBLIMINAL, explain yourself, or better yet get off my dicck

[HiphopDude420]

I'm not going to break down the subliminal for you idiots

You either get the line right away

Or you think he's "big up'in em"....which is about as dumb a comment as I've ever read on here...couldn't be further from the truth...take it from an O.G.

[Keys N Bass]

wasn't tryna make too big a deal out of it, but yea, just like that thug cat said it was a slick subliminal.. not a diss, but a sublte indication to where if you read between the lines you get an idea of how nas actually views him (a wigger), veiled as an empowering term..

"my crakker" alone would've been A LOT more appropriate, believe me..

it's the equivilent of eminem calling nas a c00n.. i.e. calling his ACTIONS as a black man into question rather than JUST the color of his skin..

[ermi]

OK, what Nas meant (and I know him personally) is that it's not a bad thing to be (called) a wigger. Just like it's no big deal to be called a n!gger/sp!c/...

It's ok to be a wigga aka a fan of black culture, even in a clumsy wigga way. Some blacks might be a bit too elitist about what's theirs and theirs only.

Bottom line is get over these words.

[Sunzoo aka LC]

wasn't tryna make too big a deal out of it, but yea, just like that thug cat said it was a slick subliminal.. not a diss, but a sublte indication to where if you read between the lines you get an idea of how nas actually views him (a wigger), veiled as an empowering term..
"my crakker" alone would've been A LOT more appropriate, believe me..
it's the equivilent of eminem calling nas a c00n.. i.e. calling his ACTIONS as a black man into question rather than JUST the color of his skin..


two questions:

1. Do you know what a subliminal is?

2. Do you grasp the basic gist of the song itself? if not, refer to fundz or ermi's posts to help you wrap you mind around the concept

[jayshiggs]

The whole song's purpose was to play down the relevance and mental burden of racial slurs by and large.

So use your f*cking head.

c/s yeah, but I think he is pointing out the paradox of em's situation to. Depending who you ask Em is either racist, a wigger, or both. It is all confusing and bears to no logic or reason, therefore a lot of these terms are irrelevant and stupid.

[ItripL]

u gotta think a lil deeper...i see what homies sayin
its a very slick subliminial...believe me, nas doesnt like Em...nas a proud black dude...and that tape didnt go over well with any strong negros
eminem murdered you on your own sh1t
think about this...nas even said beans was the only ill artist on the ROC...and at that point Beans had murdered Jay on record many times...sure he wasnt on his album...but whats so funny about Em outdoing him??
cause hes white...translation of this line...a white boy out rhymed you on your album....cause trust me, if that was beans...Nas sayin "beans murdered you on your own sh1t" wouldnt have that same sting

End of the day tho he only said that cause Jay said Horse was better than him on Oochie Wallie. Never saw why people thought that shyt was hot or true.

[Jzzo357]

Uh yeah
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, he says...Eminem said n!gga, but it don't matter that's my n!gga, he's a wigga...
so yeah, Nas ain't got beef with Em...don't mean to spoil you stans wet dreams

c/s basically and i dont even like nas

[BLB_LaFamilia]

OK, what Nas meant (and I know him personally) is that it's not a bad thing to be (called) a wigger. Just like it's no big deal to be called a n!gger/sp!c/...
It's ok to be a wigga aka a fan of black culture, even in a clumsy wigga way. Some blacks might be a bit too elitist about what's theirs and theirs only.
Bottom line is get over these words.

tell that nicca 2 leak some more shyt then if u kno him like that

[HiphopDude420]

OK, what Nas meant (and I know him personally) is that it's not a bad thing to be (called) a wigger. Just like it's no big deal to be called a n!gger/sp!c/...
It's ok to be a wigga aka a fan of black culture, even in a clumsy wigga way. Some blacks might be a bit too elitist about what's theirs and theirs only.
Bottom line is get over these words.


dont be fooled by this impostor

thats like the obvious reply, political answer.

Nas is hardcore his lines are likewise hardcore.

[hexagram23]

I think Nas meant it as a little jab....not like he was mad, it seemed like he was telling people "ok, Em called us n*ggers, I'm calling him a w*gger/cr*cker, now let's move past that".

And as far as him saying "we're all black within"....it had nothing to do with wanting to be black, or being a w*gger"....the very next line is "we're all African" which seems to me an obvious reference to the fact that all life started in Africa....then he says it's ironic because "some Africans don't like us", meaning black people.

Fred.

[HiphopDude420]

think deeper. Hint....Key question sohh, what the **** would that make 50 cent then?

[Heavy Handz]

The term "wanna be n*gger" is disgusting and absolutely ignorant...

[yallmakemelaugh]

not mad(means no hard feelings) cause eminem said *****, cause hes my *****(cause we friends), wigga cracka friend (white friend)

smh @ this thread.