View Full Version : What does it say about SOHH that 50% said AG was classic, but now....
Eye Cue 182
04-16-08, 06:04 AM
...nobody even mentions this album. :thumbsdow
In fact, this may be one of the more forgetable albums by a high-profile artist.
Now I'm not saying the album was 'Curtis-like' bad, but there wasn't anything memorable about the album. Just a bunch of soft, superficial career-filler tracks that, IMO, should be the nail in the coffin of Jay-Z's career. He should just give it up. I even think Kingdom Come was better.
Funny thing is Jay actually displayed some skill on the album. But the 'connect' ability which he seemed to have in excess for the better part of 10 years wasn't there. There was no feeling behind any of the tracks. Apart from Success, I could literally do without hearing another song off that album for the rest of my life.
But getting back to the thread title-- remember how EVERY day some Jay stan would give their thoughts on the pure brilliance of the album and how it was his 2nd-best album? :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
:laugh:, I'll never forget those days.
Tha Prez
04-16-08, 06:23 AM
just look at the threads.
sohh is 40% d*ck riders, 40% haters... 10% actually discuss hip hop reasonably and the other 10% don't give a f*ck about music.
Slice-Twice
04-16-08, 06:49 AM
You don't gotta have a album be d*ckrided constantly to be hot
I mean how many times do you wanna talk about it?
I don't know what it says bout sohh but I know this makes you look like a jay-z whore.
Stop being concerned about where it ranks amongst his albums. Its one of the only albums he actually put effort into.
Basically stop worrying stan
kanethegreat
04-16-08, 06:53 AM
Still 5/5 to me. After people have stated their opinion once, why would you expect them to beat others over the head with it? You only do that to try to convince others. Not necessary at all. Just state your opinion, and keep it moving.
It's obvious you are trying to change people's perception of the album, because you don't agree, which I think is unnecessary.
AG= 3/5
Last classic album: GRODT
Hip/Hop is dead.. Average albums,artists and songs..
pureplaya
04-16-08, 07:16 AM
ehhh i havent really liked a jay album since black album and before it that i hadnt like one since vol.3
Jadan the Magishan
04-16-08, 07:22 AM
ehhh i havent really liked a jay album since black album and before it that i hadnt like one since vol.3
I actually thought Black Album sucked ass, and so did Kingdom Come. Vol. 3 should have never even been released...I think I liked about 2 songs on the whole album. American Gangster was a breath of fresh air for me.
S.W.E.R.V. 2.0
04-16-08, 07:52 AM
that sh1t was a fukkin classic its alot of smooth grown man sh1t on there one of jay's best IMO
*Harlem212*
04-16-08, 07:57 AM
i dont think its classic but its def. FIRE.
Slice-Twice
04-16-08, 01:08 PM
Lol sellin coke is not grown man sh*t
HiphopDude420
04-16-08, 01:10 PM
You 38 and you Still Rappin, UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Im 26 n1gga so is the DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBZ
I only support one act in hiphop, The Game.
The rest of these clowny, trippin on they shoelace, type goof ball artist, I HAVE no affiliation wit.
just look at the threads.
sohh is 40% d*ck riders, 40% haters... 10% actually discuss hip hop reasonably and the other 10% don't give a f*ck about music.
Cosign.
AG was trash.
Curtis had 8 good tracks on it. Good album, not up to 50's standards though.
that sh1t was a fukkin classic its alot of smooth grown man sh1t on there one of jay's best IMO
Talking about selling drugs is grown man music? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
How about rapping about family, and human conditions???
Eleventh_Capo
04-16-08, 01:17 PM
AG= 3/5
Last classic album: GRODT
NotSoft
04-16-08, 01:29 PM
Damn i said it wuz classic...not 7th Day theory classic ...it just came out last yr...if we aint mentionin it 2 yrs from now then call sumbody out.
Blackman28
04-16-08, 01:32 PM
Yeah AG is a snoozefest...only about three songs that I go back and listen to while the rest of the tracks are forgettable.
Regulate94
04-16-08, 01:36 PM
american gangster was a solid album...very good
close thread
dumassispumanti
04-16-08, 02:16 PM
Talking about selling drugs is grown man music? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
How about rapping about family, and human conditions???
If you actually listened to AG, you'd know it wasn't really even about drugs. It was about life more than anything. "Selling drugs" was like a setup to tell the story.
She wants that old thing back
She want those Heroin tracks
She likes me
She fiends for me nightly
She leans for me
Morning she rush for my touch
This is about LUST
Cold sweats occur when I'm not with her
My presence is a must
Bonita Applebum, i gotta put you on
If i didn't when we cuttin' the feeling would be too strong
In any form, i'm giving you sweet dreams
That Sugar Hill, she call me her sweet thing
That Black Rain that take away your pain
Just for one night, baby, take me in vein
Now that feelin' got you trippin'
You no wanna feel no differently
Said lust has got you itchin'
All wide open and its' drippin'
I know what you like, i am your prescription
I'm your physician, i'm your addiction
If that's a trash verse, then you have no business listening to hip-hop.
...nobody even mentions this album. :thumbsdow
In fact, this may be one of the more forgetable albums by a high-profile artist.
Now I'm not saying the album was 'Curtis-like' bad, but there wasn't anything memorable about the album. Just a bunch of soft, superficial career-filler tracks that, IMO, should be the nail in the coffin of Jay-Z's career. He should just give it up. I even think Kingdom Come was better.
Funny thing is Jay actually displayed some skill on the album. But the 'connect' ability which he seemed to have in excess for the better part of 10 years wasn't there. There was no feeling behind any of the tracks. Apart from Success, I could literally do without hearing another song off that album for the rest of my life.
But getting back to the thread title-- remember how EVERY day some Jay stan would give their thoughts on the pure brilliance of the album and how it was his 2nd-best album? :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
:laugh:, I'll never forget those days.
welcome to sohh.com
Kid-Wave
04-16-08, 02:46 PM
i still think it was a great album, but that dont mean imma keep bringin the sh*t up in every one of my conversations damn
Eye Cue 182
04-16-08, 02:48 PM
If you actually listened to AG, you'd know it wasn't really even about drugs. It was about life more than anything. "Selling drugs" was like a setup to tell the story.
She wants that old thing back
She want those Heroin tracks
She likes me
She fiends for me nightly
She leans for me
Morning she rush for my touch
This is about LUST
Cold sweats occur when I'm not with her
My presence is a must
Bonita Applebum, i gotta put you on
If i didn't when we cuttin' the feeling would be too strong
In any form, i'm giving you sweet dreams
That Sugar Hill, she call me her sweet thing
That Black Rain that take away your pain
Just for one night, baby, take me in vein
Now that feelin' got you trippin'
You no wanna feel no differently
Said lust has got you itchin'
All wide open and its' drippin'
I know what you like, i am your prescription
I'm your physician, i'm your addiction
If that's a trash verse, then you have no business listening to hip-hop.
:rolleyes:, this has got be a joke post, right?
That song epitomizes my first post. Conceptually it wasn't bad but it was definitely soft and forgettable.
You get a :thumbsdow from me, son.
dumassispumanti
04-16-08, 02:53 PM
:rolleyes:, this has got be a joke post, right?
That song epitomizes my first post. Conceptually it wasn't bad but it was definitely soft and forgettable.
You get a :thumbsdow from me, son.
Quit the genre. It's not for you.
Lol sellin coke is not grown man sh*tyea, because we all know that all "gangsters" in america are teenage knuckleheads and there are no grown men that are "gangsters", right?
Kinfolk
04-16-08, 03:04 PM
give olhead a break. he's the rolling stones of rap.
coogi mane
04-16-08, 03:28 PM
Nikkas will find any reason to dis the king
C.R.£.A.M
04-16-08, 03:31 PM
Yeah AG is a snoozefest...only about three songs that I go back and listen to while the rest of the tracks are forgettable.
co-sign
Yeah AG is a snoozefest...only about three songs that I go back and listen to while the rest of the tracks are forgettable.
I think of it kinda similar maybe like 5 song the rest get skipped. Not that it's wack just boring and thus forgetable.
Why keep talkin about AG when everything haas been said 100 times already. They still play "I Know" on the radio out here and last i heard Jay sellin out tickets to the Mary/ Jay concerts like crazy. And i can almost garuntee whatever song he does from AG, everybody will sing word for word.
BIGDENNIS10UK
04-16-08, 04:09 PM
fallin' was classic, but i agree foir the most part, it didn't hit me like that either, i was suprised so many people on here was feeling it like that.
Reasonable doubt is so much better its ridiculous, i thought AG was forgettable for the most part, the production was meh to me.
Eye Cue 182
04-16-08, 04:10 PM
I think of it kinda similar maybe like 5 song the rest get skipped. Not that it's wack just boring and thus forgetable.
Exactly. This is how the streets feel as well.
Look, nobody is saying the album's bad, but it certainly wasn't great. Possibly good, but probably slightly better than mediocre. If you calling this album 'classic' or '5/5', then you're probably a Jigga stan. Cause I don't really see how the streets have already forgottent this album only for 50% to say its Jay-Z's 2nd-best album.
gotti capone
04-16-08, 04:13 PM
...nobody even mentions this album. :thumbsdow
In fact, this may be one of the more forgetable albums by a high-profile artist.
Now I'm not saying the album was 'Curtis-like' bad, but there wasn't anything memorable about the album. Just a bunch of soft, superficial career-filler tracks that, IMO, should be the nail in the coffin of Jay-Z's career. He should just give it up. I even think Kingdom Come was better.
Funny thing is Jay actually displayed some skill on the album. But the 'connect' ability which he seemed to have in excess for the better part of 10 years wasn't there. There was no feeling behind any of the tracks. Apart from Success, I could literally do without hearing another song off that album for the rest of my life.
But getting back to the thread title-- remember how EVERY day some Jay stan would give their thoughts on the pure brilliance of the album and how it was his 2nd-best album? :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
:laugh:, I'll never forget those days.
it aint Blueprint or Reasonable Doubt but it's still a nice album.
this is why i dont take "hip hop heads" seriously anymore. they are the most judgemental ppl to listen to music and they think no one else opinion in hip hop matters. i htink it's mainly the internet junkies tho'. i know a lot of cats that still bump American Gangster, The Cool, and Graduation like they just came out. take it for what it is. you either liked it or you didnt.
mitchandness
04-16-08, 04:15 PM
it was coo when it came out, but now ..... i couldn't even tell you the last time i scrolled by it on my ipod.
3.5 mics. a couple of great songs and the rest is forgettable filler.
Exactly. This is how the streets feel as well.
Look, nobody is saying the album's bad, but it certainly wasn't great. Possibly good, but probably slightly better than mediocre. If you calling this album 'classic' or '5/5', then you're probably a Jigga stan. Cause I don't really see how the streets have already forgottent this album only for 50% to say its Jay-Z's 2nd-best album.i always chuckle when i see 1 of you lames tryna speak for the "streets". its also funny and predictable to see you try and discredit any1 who has an opinion that you dont want to accpet by calling them "stans". statements like those just expose your hate agenda. its not good enough for you to speak for yaself because you know how irrelevant you are, you have to try and speak for the "streets" and call ppl "stans" because you dont agree with their opinion. get some self esteem buddy.
what youre saying isnt even true. theres constantly a thread on this site where somebody is promoting a ag song remix that either they or some1 that they know has produced. as far as around my way(the streets), i still hear it getting some burn from ppl and its been 6 months. "i know" is in rotation on the radio and in the club.
jerichotfx
04-16-08, 04:30 PM
Say Hello, Fallin', Success and Blue Magic are the tracks I still play consistently
shaolinshadowboxing
04-16-08, 04:33 PM
that sh1t was a fukkin classic its alot of smooth grown man sh1t on there one of jay's best IMO
it was? but it's not now...you're just proving threadstarter's point
imo it's a very good album 2nd best from last year, 4 mics, i rank it fifth in jay's catalog after rd, bp, tba, and vol. 1. the replayability is kinda low though
Sunzoo aka LC
04-16-08, 04:37 PM
for one homie...you been trying hard to change peoples opinions on this album for how long now? i'm talking about even when it came out you were trying to make sure n1ggas would sh1t on the album and it didn't work, i remember that sh1t, on your other name
and to be honest, just search "american gangsta" and you'll see that the album still gets mentioned pretty frequently still, just because nobody is making appreciation threads about an album that came out damn near THIS YEAR don't mean ain't nobody enjoying it, i still got that album on rotation heavy, so do a lot of folks....
you can't convince n1ggas to the contrary homie, give up, let people like what they like, when game comes out you know damn well ain't nobody here gonna be able to tell you that it ain't the greatest album of the century, you have an agenda pa....and you know it
Exactly. This is how the streets feel as well.
how in the fucck would you know? and since when does the "streets" have allmighty impeccable taste in hip hop??
Eye Cue 182
04-16-08, 04:54 PM
i always chuckle when i see 1 of you lames tryna speak for the "streets". its also funny and predictable to see you try and discredit any1 who has an opinion that you dont want to accpet by calling them "stans". statements like those just expose your hate agenda. its not good enough for you to speak for yaself because you know how irrelevant you are, you have to try and speak for the "streets" and call ppl "stans" because you dont agree with their opinion. get some self esteem buddy.
what youre saying isnt even true. theres constantly a thread on this site where somebody is promoting a ag song remix that either they or some1 that they know has produced. as far as around my way(the streets), i still hear it getting some burn from ppl and its been 6 months. "i know" is in rotation on the radio and in the club.
Ahhh sh*t, like motherf*ckin clockwork.
That's all this guy gets...
how in the fucck would you know? and since when does the "streets" have allmighty impeccable taste in hip hop??
true
niccas in the streets listen 2 plies , rick ross , and lil wayne they dont give a shyt about lyrics
Anthony Yeo
04-16-08, 05:12 PM
Talking about selling drugs is grown man music? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
How about rapping about family, and human conditions???
exactly because its a well known fact the united states drug game is run by minors
BLB_LaFamilia
04-16-08, 05:12 PM
just look at the threads.
sohh is 40% d*ck riders, 40% haters... 10% actually discuss hip hop reasonably and the other 10% don't give a f*ck about music.
*Pac voice* truuuues **** u ever tyyyyyyypeed !!!!!!
dumassispumanti
04-16-08, 05:15 PM
Exactly. This is how the streets feel as well.
Look, nobody is saying the album's bad, but it certainly wasn't great. Possibly good, but probably slightly better than mediocre. If you calling this album 'classic' or '5/5', then you're probably a Jigga stan. Cause I don't really see how the streets have already forgottent this album only for 50% to say its Jay-Z's 2nd-best album.
LOL @ the streets.
Anybody notice how when somebody wants to hate reckless or stan reckless, they always point to what "the streets" are saying as evidence? They know it can't be measured, calculated, tallied or added up, but it always happens to concur with whatever THEY think at the time.
Well.....the streets ain't feeling AG. Plies is a street classic.
I could care less what the streets are saying. I never lended much credence to what some tar and concrete thought of the music i listen to.
wtf yo's mom
04-16-08, 05:29 PM
its much better then kingdom come and a very good album but not classic.
rbk2003
04-16-08, 06:05 PM
Jay-z made an album for jay-z fans not to get NEW ONES.Too bad you didn't like the album....maybe when he make an album filled with dumb down lyrics and timbo production you like it....
Lawrence
04-16-08, 06:19 PM
im pretty sure there have been more threads in the last month about ag than about paid in full. does that make it any less classic ?
People are so hard up for good hip/hop music that they try to convince themselves that okay/above average albums are classic.
Labeling AG as a classic is disrespectful to the ALBUMS that are actually CLASSICS.
pureplaya
04-16-08, 09:45 PM
I actually thought Black Album sucked ass, and so did Kingdom Come. Vol. 3 should have never even been released...I think I liked about 2 songs on the whole album. American Gangster was a breath of fresh air for me.
a jay-z album that was a breath of fresh for me was black album, i mean i liked vol. 3 more then american gangster and that album was alright, to me Jay-Z has been on the decline since Resonable Doubt
that album is just as wack as kingdom cum
Mister Discotheque
04-16-08, 10:14 PM
People are so hard up for good hip/hop music that they try to convince themselves that okay/above average albums are classic.
Labeling AG as a classic is disrespectful to the ALBUMS that are actually CLASSICS.
Word up
Niccas was bustin nuts to fukkin AG for real
That Beirut Gangsters was hot but lets be realistic
RD & BP were, are and will always be Jay's best albums and undisputable classics
In 10 years nobody will be scanning magazine reviews for AG to post on hip hop boards :rolleyes:
It was a good album but lets be serious
jay-z is f*ckin gay. :laugh:
Word up
Niccas was bustin nuts to fukkin AG for real
That Beirut Gangsters was hot but lets be realistic
RD & BP were, are and will always be Jay's best albums and undisputable classics
In 10 years nobody will be scanning magazine reviews for AG to post on hip hop boards :rolleyes:
It was a good album but lets be serious
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Reasonable Doubt Blueprint>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AG
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