Murda Ma$e, Killa Cam, >> Big L..Stop Overrating

[Bone$]

This nikka. RIP big L, but lets get serious. Son wasnt even the nicest nikka affiliated with C.O.C., He wasn't a prolific writer, on any one of his best of's you will hear him recycle 3 of them rhymes like 11 times. YOU know which ones im talking about nikka. He carried the torch from lord finesse to alot of these punch line nyggas, but in the mid to late 90s son wasnt even fukn with mase, cam, lox, nature, hov, nas, az, i could go on...

[TheY2DreProblem]

I also think Cam is way better than Big L. dunno about mase tho i dont listen to enough mase to give me opinion on him.

[Asante1010]

nah. Killa Cam was veeeery close though.

[Bone$]

mase mid to late 90s was impeccable

[teckn1caLity]

cam is better than bigl who the hell did that rating.

[Bone$]

nah. Killa Cam was veeeery close though.
close? the versatillity of confessions is >> than big l's career..

[Asante1010]

close? the versatillity of confessions is >> than big l's career..
meh. LODPAD is better than it IMO.

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[*Harlem212*]

Fam, I know u have your own oppinion but I def. Don't agree wit dat. Big L was crazy

[KingPoetic]

not even Cam himself would agree with you

i would've said Mase aswell but i remember him making some comments about him ghostwriting for Big L on some shock value ****. dude lost his mind

[gawdbondie]

S.D.E. was Cam at his finest and its a toss up if he was better

Mase= no

[danja29]

I like 'Murder' Mase, but only after he calmed that sh*t down. I heard some of those songs where dude was yellin' and rappin' all fast and tryna sound all hard- sh*t sounded somethin' awful. I ain't sayin' that style itself was awful, HE just sounded terrible doin' it.

'Killa' Cam on the other hand... that dude had it on point, especially the Clue freestyle when he rhymed over the 'B*tches Ain't Sh*t' beat. I dunno wtf happened to him, but I guess if you listen to the 'Confessions of Fire' album, you can kinda hear the seeds of what was to come. :laugh:

But better than L at that particular time C.O.C. was goin' on? Nnnnnah.

[Mukel]

Big L is way better than Cam

[Mr.Sam]

At their best

Big L > Cam > Mase

Career wise

Cam > Big L > Mase

[ridgegeneral]

cam> L >mase

[TheY2DreProblem]

cam> L >mase
:yes:

[Mr.Sam]

I like 'Murder' Mase, but only after he calmed that sh*t down. I heard some of those songs where dude was yellin' and rappin' all fast and tryna sound all hard- sh*t sounded somethin' awful. I ain't sayin' that style itself was awful, HE just sounded terrible doin' it.
'Killa' Cam on the other hand... that dude had it on point, especially the Clue freestyle when he rhymed over the 'B*tches Ain't Sh*t' beat. I dunno wtf happened to him, but I guess if you listen to the 'Confessions of Fire' album, you can kinda hear the seeds of what was to come. :laugh:
But better than L at that particular time C.O.C. was goin' on? Nnnnnah.
Check your PMs

[*Harlem212*]

L>mase>cam

[Mukel]

L>mase>cam

:yes:

[*Harlem212*]

L>mase>cam>McGruff

[Bone$]

L>mase>cam>McGruff
fuk no, and smh @ nikkas underestimating murda...

do i need to getting into murda frees circa 96-98?

and cam was far better lyrically than big l

[Bone$]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOKB0VGPuF4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxuaB-Y2jY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo1c2u8Gyp0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jvwai4d42s&feature=related:ohmy:
everybody destroyed american dream, rip bloodshed that nikka spazzed too
but murda on there? "since 14, i sold morphine for more cream, kept dope in the nautica coat,under the drawstring.....
l wrecked that shyt at the end, but lets be real, mase is who l wanted to be


lets go....

[Mr.Sam]

Big L at his best, is better then both. Come on dude.

and I have Mase songs that YOU never even heard probably from 1992 and 1993 were he was super lyrical.

[Bone$]

Big L at his best, is better then both. Come on dude.
and I have Mase songs that YOU never even heard probably from 1992 and 1993 were he was super lyrical.
no u dont, or they the coc shyt i dont fuk wit cause nikkas was young and hadnt gathered they swag yet...just like the early lox demo type shyt...ehh..and ima day one coc, lox fan.....

but if u got em, post em, get it popping....

[Play B-O-Y]

At their best
Big L > Cam > Mase
Career wise
Cam > Big L > Mase

[Bone$]

career wise l > mase?
talent l > cam?
thats jokes right?

[Tony$tarks]

Big L at his best, is better then both. Come on dude.
and I have Mase songs that YOU never even heard probably from 1992 and 1993 were he was super lyrical.
dis ni99d prob gonna post "drug wars" & "get rude"

[tonyromeski1]

Yo real talk back in the day Ma$e was that dude for real, Ma$e was a superstar he appealed to every audience and he was versatile enough to do it. Cam was ill too though, but COC days Cam was not the illest in the group, Big L usually ended with his flow, I think they all were crazy wit the flow, Big L and Blood died way too early to call them the best, Herb Mcgruff came a little later he was ill too.

[huddy 6]

Big L at his best, is better then both. Come on dude.
and I have Mase songs that YOU never even heard probably from 1992 and 1993 were he was super lyrical.


post em

[MNFBackwordzz]

Mase>>>>>>Big L

Cam is a don that is not to be rated at any time.

[Bone$]

Mase>>>>>>Big L

Cam is a don that is not to be rated at any time.
c/s


now upp that half a mil in the other thread mr millenium clue

[Rzarector7]

Mase>>>>>>Big L

Cam is a don that is not to be rated at any time.
Mase was not better than BIG L, come on now. Cam is up there, but Mase???? Nah.

[Bone$]

Mase was not better than BIG L, come on now. Cam is up there, but Mase???? Nah.
u must not be familar with young m.a dollar sign e

[6th Man]

smh

[Bone$]

smh
speak nygga.........this thread will have no bytchassness

[BostonFACE]

yall muthfkas is DILLUSIONAL.
BIG L could rhyme circles around both them herbs..(u hnstly think big L wouldnt BURN most emcees in a showdown?.u crazy)
big L's songs may not have been up there wit some of those cats,but spit-wise..he was a rare dude.for reaL

[TheY2DreProblem]

yall muthfkas is DILLUSIONAL.
BIG L could rhyme circles around both them herbs..(u hnstly think big L wouldnt BURN most emcees in a showdown?.u crazy)
big L's songs may not have been up there wit some of those cats,but spit-wise..he was a rare dude.for reaL


No one really judges MC's by if they could beat them in a face to face battle, if thats the case then Canibus would be considered top 10. There is more to judging a rapper than raw talent.

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[BostonFACE]

No one really judges MC's by if they could beat them in a face to face battle, if thats the case then Canibus would be considered top 10. There is more to judging a rapper than raw talent.
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and theres more to it also than jst picking the guy that (at most times) falls into some luck (or record label budgets) and get a huge producer to blow up that artist..
guaranteed,if Big L was still around..and had a bigger team around him,and that production to make him stand out more,hed be jst as 'big' as the others.(but personally,i DO judge on lyrical game,sorry..I dont look at songs much,or hype around a certain artist...Im into RAP for the spit game of emcees,not their discography which is mostly lame,cause they had to cater to their label for)
:smoker:

"rap is somethin u do,hiphop is something u live"-krs

[mitchandness]

L>mase>cam
:yes:

[Bone$]

and theres more to it also than jst picking the guy that (at most times) falls into some luck (or record label budgets) and get a huge producer to blow up that artist..
guaranteed,if Big L was still around..and had a bigger team around him,and that production to make him stand out more,hed be jst as 'big' as the others.(but personally,i DO judge on lyrical game,sorry..I dont look at songs much,or hype around a certain artist...Im into RAP for the spit game of emcees,not their discography which is mostly lame,cause they had to cater to their label for)
:smoker:
"rap is somethin u do,hiphop is something u live"-krs
if L was around yall would be sitting around calling him a washed up rapper....

[BostonFACE]

if L was around yall would be sitting around calling him a washed up rapper....

not me.thats all i can speak for.not me.
(ur right tho prob.,most these "fans" switch up their opinions on emcees cause of a hiatus,or a bad song,or a certain collabo,or a new label,or a "swag",or a verse,or whatever the fckk...)
:smoker:

[Bone$]

not me.thats all i can speak for.not me.
(ur right tho prob.,most these "fans" switch up their opinions on emcees cause of a hiatus,or a bad song,or a certain collabo,or a new label,or a "swag",or a verse,or whatever the fckk...)
:smoker:
what im saying its a shame big l never gotta chance to pursue his dream to the fullest, BUT i highly doubt he woulda had the success that followed for mase and cam, regardless of the pending affilitation with rocafella, etc...

[BostonFACE]

ya neverr know B,ya never know..
(jst like pple hyping up other deceased rappers(AFTER the fact),its all a 'might have been' or 'PROBABLY was gna be' guessing game).thats what sucks about untimely deaths,u jst never ever ever know what Twists n turns would happen in their careers.it sux
(but stiLL,that 'freeestyle' on that stretch armst.show/the 2nd album stiLL kills 90% of any 'frstyles' ive heard by anyone since)
"u runnin wit boys im runnin wit men, Imma be rippin the mics til im a hundred-and-ten,have yall niggz like damnit this ngga dun done it again"
:king:

[BostonFACE]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3OJNQGpTMqM&feature=related
(big L in amsterdam..show Rockin it)

[neger187]

lord finesse > big l

[Bone$]

"wanna fuk the bytches i be swimming in, cute but dont confuse me as im feminine, wilder than them cats that be wildin to the benjamins, get a funny feeling when, im forced to deal wit middlemen.....'

[paperchaser211]

At their best
Big L > Cam > Mase
Career wise
Cam > Big L > Mase

What?

[*Harlem212*]

Mase career was better then cams. What u have to remember is cam blew up after he went to the roc. S.d.e and confessions was the sh!t but the album that put him over the top was come home wit me. But L was the best man. I like cam to but he aint f^ckin wit L let alone mase. IMO.....

[Bone$]

cams best 3 verses >> l's best 3

[slitknux]

Yalll tweakin, Big L was not just a great rapper he was a far superior freestyler to either Cam or Mase so that sorta puts him over.

[Bone$]

Yalll tweakin, Big L was not just a great rapper he was a far superior freestyler to either Cam or Mase so that sorta puts him over.
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