PROOF "IT WAS WRITTEN" only started getting labled a CLASSIC online by pathetic stans

[scumbag]

so i was flippin through some of my old source mags and came across this article sonning that chump nas for droppin that wack **** called it was written

and since i know u nas stans wont believe me unless i provide proof here ya go :laugh:
http://i32.tinypic.com/2whfblh.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/6zv4o4.jpg

:thumbsdow stop hypin up weak nas albums and tryin to pass them off as classics u ****ing stans

dont forget ~ this was when the source's credibility was at an all time high & was actually considered the BIBLE of hip-hop :whistle:

[Imamic]

so you're arguing IWW is not a classic album?

the articles are aboout I Am anyway . . .

one article doesn't change it anyway

[gawdbondie]

I have that copy..haha
yeah the critics shiit all over that album....good thing I have my own ears to judge with.

[scumbag]

so you're arguing IWW is not a classic album?
the articles are aboout I Am anyway . . .
one article doesn't change it anyway
what im sayin is-- when it was written dropped it was generally regarded as a throw away album by real hip-hop heads.. and even YEARS after it came out it was still viewed that way because this article is from 99

fast forward a few more years and all the nas stans claim IWW was always labled a classic ~ **** outta here :rolleyes:

[Puerto Rican Gary]

yeah thats why they gave it what 4mics. LOL@It was written selling because of illmatic. Most nigguhz never even heard illmatic around the time It was written dropped. Ilmatic sold all of 3 copies. It's elitest ***s who write this nonsense

[doeboy]

its common knowledge that the reception that iww was mixed when it initially dropped. just dont act like because the source did inititally call it a classic is the reason that its not a classic today.

[Imamic]

by real hip-hop heads..

so the guys that work for source are real?

[scumbag]

IWW sold because of lauryn hill

without her on that single for if i ruled the world IWW would have sold even less than illmatic :laugh:

[Puerto Rican Gary]

what im sayin is-- when it was written dropped it was generally regarded as a throw away album by real hip-hop heads.. and even YEARS after it came out it was still viewed that way because this article is from 99
fast forward a few more years and all the nas stans claim IWW was always labled a classic ~ **** outta here :rolleyes:
LOL@you using this as a guage, didn't they also not label the chronic, doggystyle, reaonable doubt, ready to die, etc, not classsic only to go back on their own reviews? so who the fukk cares what the source said? It's all opinion and IMO It Was Written is Nas best album EVER

[Puerto Rican Gary]

IWW sold because of lauryn hill

without her on that single for if i ruled the world IWW would have sold even less than illmatic :laugh:
nah, cats was open over Fast life , Thats where Nas got his most notice, people will deny it but it's true.

[scumbag]

LOL@you using this as a guage, didn't they also not label the chronic, doggystyle, reaonable doubt, ready to die, etc, not classsic only to go back on their own reviews? so who the fukk cares what the source said? It's all opinion and IMO It Was Written is Nas best album EVER
this kid cant be serious :laugh:

[beatz17]

LOL@you using this as a guage, didn't they also not label the chronic, doggystyle, reaonable doubt, ready to die, etc, not classsic only to go back on their own reviews? so who the fukk cares what the source said? It's all opinion and IMO It Was Written is Nas best album EVER

but..but..but the source is hip hop's bible...don't you know that?:rolleyes:

[doeboy]

yeah thats why they gave it what 4mics. LOL@It was written selling because of illmatic. Most nigguhz never even heard illmatic around the time It was written dropped. Ilmatic sold all of 3 copies. It's elitest ***s who write this nonsenseiww did sell because of illmatic and the fact that lauryn was on the lead single. a lot of ppl may not have heard illmatic, but they knew that it got 5 mics fom the source. illmatic may not have sold like that but it was heavily hyped and talked about.

[gawdbondie]

IWW sold because of lauryn hill

without her on that single for if i ruled the world IWW would have sold even less than illmatic :laugh:
:laugh: Lauryn did open dude up to a large audience.

...alot of the pop audience was introduced to Nas through that song. that is true.

[Puerto Rican Gary]

iww did sell because of illmatic and the fact that lauryn was on the lead single. a lot of ppl may not have heard illmatic, but they knew that it got 5 mics fom the source. illmatic may not have sold like that but it was heavily hyped and talked about.
nobody bought it was written because of illmatic, if theyw ere that interested in illmatic they would've copped it. It was talked about in magazines, yet everybody passed it up in favor of Warren G, Wu-Tang, Snoop, Biggie, Bone, etc. WHile Illmatic was for the purist it was not for teh masses

[Worm of Earth Jim]

http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=772639
^starting world war 4 now are we?

[PeterVankmen]

I don't know what the hell threadstarter talkin about, the source definitly wasn't no bible, they didn't even rate death row albums at that time:dry:

The Lauryn joint made IWW a instant classic, it got soooo much radio play.

The I gave you power joint was original, and out here in L.A. that street dreams bumped cuz it had the all eyes on me hoo.

Source use to make a lot shock articles.

[doeboy]

nobody bought it was written because of illmatic, if theyw ere that interested in illmatic they would've copped it. It was talked about in magazines, yet everybody passed it up in favor of Warren G, Wu-Tang, Snoop, Biggie, Bone, etc. WHile Illmatic was for the purist it was not for teh massesyoure an idiot poster no matter what the topic. nas's budget for iww dwarfed his budget for illmatic and that was all on the strength of the love that illmatic got from the "heads" even tho it didnt well commercially.

[STRESSU]

This thread is funny. A Diplomat stan is tryin to hate on Nas stans, when those wack ass Dipshyts never made a classic no matter how hard they try.

Funny stuff.

[gawdbondie]

This thread is funny. A Diplomat stan is tryin to hate on Nas stans, when those wack ass Dipshyts never made a classic no matter how hard they try.
Funny stuff.
:laugh: come on now....D.I. was nice and Cam'ron's S.D.E. was an ight album also.

[khrys_x]

IWW's reception when it was released > Reasonable Doubt's (and didn't get labeled as a classic till the modern era of Jigga worship in the aftermath of Vol. 2's pop success...after Jay's constant efforts to get people to go back and praise it retroactively)....and is still a better album till this day imo

[CharlieWayte]

I honestly don't think It Was Written is classic,and many people did and some still do see it as Nas beginning to sell out,but its still a damn good album on its own merit.

The problem that arises with any artist's albums is that most times there has to be a sense of the time when the album was released.If Nas had never dropped Illmatic,then more people would've thought It Was Written was a better album at the time that it did.But the fact is,it came before one of the greatest albums of all time.Thus,it became a huge letdown for many fans.

The reason some people,both on and offline can call it a classic is because they take the album for what it is, and don't take into account those outside factors.

It's like looking at Oscar Robertson's triple double seasons and wondering why he didn't win the MVP those years.

It doesn't make anyone more right than anyone else,but the people who call It Was Written a classic album don't look at it that way.

[gawdbondie]

IWW's reception when it was released > Reasonable Doubt's (and didn't get labeled as a classic till the modern era of Jigga worship in the aftermath of Vol. 2's pop success)....and is still a better album till this day imo
true, but now you'll bring out the stans on both sides. :eek:

[Puerto Rican Gary]

youre an idiot poster no matter what the topic. nas's budget for iww dwarfed his budget for illmatic and that was all on the strength of the love that illmatic got from the "heads" even tho it didnt well commercially.
Yeah, and Steve Stoute had nothing to do with that. Fukkin moron.

[CharlieWayte]

IWW's reception when it was released > Reasonable Doubt's (and didn't get labeled as a classic till the modern era of Jigga worship in the aftermath of Vol. 2's pop success...after Jay's constant efforts to get people to go back and praise it retroactively)....and is still a better album till this day imo
SMH @ bringing someone else's name into the conversation,but I guess the circumstances are sorta the same.

But I think there's a difference between an overlooked album(Reasonable Doubt) and a Double Platinum album,and the way they were and are looked back upon.

Its like the way Shawshank Redemption didn't get much critical praise or commercial success when it was released,and years later its at the top of IMDB's top 250 and hailed as a classic by many people.Doesn't mean it was trash to begin with.

[scumbag]

any cam-l album is better than IWW

[Puerto Rican Gary]

I honestly don't think It Was Written is classic,and many people did and some still do see it as Nas beginning to sell out,but its still a damn good album on its own merit.
The problem that arises with any artist's albums is that most times there has to be a sense of the time when the album was released.If Nas had never dropped Illmatic,then more people would've thought It Was Written was a better album at the time that it did.But the fact is,it came before one of the greatest albums of all time.Thus,it became a huge letdown for many fans.
The reason some people,both on and offline can call it a classic is because they take the album for what it is, and don't take into account those outside factors.
It's like looking at Oscar Robertson's triple double seasons and wondering why he didn't win the MVP those years.
It doesn't make anyone more right than anyone else,but the people who call It Was Written a classic album don't look at it that way.
nonsense because i don't know but like 3 people personally who think Illmatic is betetr than it was written

[gawdbondie]

any cam-l album is better than IWW
:laugh: my favorite poster already.

[gawdbondie]

nonsense because i don't know but like 3 people personally who think Illmatic is betetr than it was written
I think Illmatic is better than IWW.....I guess that makes 4 for your count.

[CharlieWayte]

nonsense because i don't know but like 3 people personally who think Illmatic is betetr than it was written
Then you don't know many people.I think its cool for people to Like IWW better,because personally I like Stillmatic more,but come one.There's a difference between liking an album more and understanding which one is greater.

It is A HIP HOP FACT that Illmatic is Nas' best album.

[gawdbondie]

Then you don't know many people.I think its cool for people to Like IWW better,because personally I like Stillmatic more,but come one.There's a difference between liking an album more and understanding which one is greater.
It is A HIP HOP FACT that Illmatic is Nas' best album.
#5

[khrys_x]

SMH @ bringing someone else's name into the conversation,but I guess the circumstances are sorta the same.
But I think there's a difference between an overlooked album(Reasonable Doubt) and a Double Platinum album,and the way they were and are looked back upon.
Its like the way Shawshank Redemption didn't get much critical praise or commercial success when it was released,and years later its at the top of IMDB's top 250 and hailed as a classic by many people.Doesn't mean it was trash to begin with.

In terms of people trying to point out how things are looked upon in a high regard years after the fact, no...there is not that big of a difference at all...its not like the critics of the time "overlooked it", it was their jobs to listen to and review most of everything that was released...the reviews of RD when it was initially released was that it was nothing special....but since that time its somehow magically morphed into one of the greatest albums of all time...basically a lot of these so called "hip hop facts" ain't sh!t but cliches that people have read from various hip hop media outlets and just accept instead of forming their own authentic opinions...had those outlets not jumped on Jay's d!ck years after the fact when he blew up, RD would be looked at more closer than it was during the time of its initial release...along the same lines as AZ's debut...great albums no doubt, but not UNQUESTIONED SUPER HIP HOP CLASSIC and all that...keeping things in context, IWW and RD received the same rating from the Source...only reason I point any of this out is because of the threadstarters longstanding Jay/Nas bias/gimmick

[gawdbondie]

In terms of people trying to point out how things are looked upon in a high regard years after the fact, no...there is not that big of a difference at all...its not like the critics of the time "overlooked it", it was their jobs to listen to and review most of everything that was released...the reviews of RD when it was initially released was that it was nothing special....but since that time its somehow magically morphed into one of the greatest albums of all time...keeping things in context, IWW and RD received the same rating from the Source...only reason I point this out is because of the threadstarters longstanding Jay/Nas bias/gimmick
yeah...also the public overlooking an album doesnt mean that the album
was never rated or never listened to. good point.

RD has been heavily promoted all these years later with Rocafella redoing the album...with Beanie Sigel, Kanye etc. redoing the tracks and all kind of nonsense gimmicks to play up the albums importance.

in reality the album was never overlooked by anyone it just wasnt anything special.

[doeboy]

IWW's reception when it was released > Reasonable Doubt's (and didn't get labeled as a classic till the modern era of Jigga worship in the aftermath of Vol. 2's pop success...after Jay's constant efforts to get people to go back and praise it retroactively)....and is still a better album till this day imoyoure another idiot poster. rd didnt get labeled a classic by the source until after vol2, but the reason that the source even went back and re-rated the album classic is because the consensus from the fans was that it was classic album. and what were jay's constant efforts to get ppl to go back and praise it? i would even say that rd is the biggest reason that jay blew up with vol2, the same way that illmatic was the biggest reason that nas blew up with iww. the commercial crowd followed the streets back then, they were just slow. none of you keep it real, everything said here is based on either hate or groupie love.

[gawdbondie]

what were jay's constant efforts to get ppl to go back and praise it?
you cant be serious.... Jay has been either promoting that album or himself since
the begining of his career. "Greatest rapper alive" tag is something he created to praise himself ...lol.

[doeboy]

yeah...also the public overlooking an album doesnt mean that the album
was never rated or never listened to. good point.
RD has been heavily promoted all these years later with Rocafella redoing the album...with Beanie Sigel, Kanye etc. redoing the tracks and all kind of nonsense gimmicks to play up the albums importance.
in reality the album was never overlooked by anyone it just wasnt anything special.you ppl are idiots. rd was heavily promoted because rocafella redid the album and jay has mentioned it in his lyrics a couple of times, and thats the only reason that its considered a classic now? do you really believe that? the album was overlooked by a lot of ppl. it was a debut album from a cat that not too many ppl knew about. why do you cats put so much importance in those intant ratings like they are the gospel? i know this is the net and everybody wants to look "cool" and act like that they were up on everything that came out throughout hiphop history, but obvioulsy thats not the case. i lot of ppl initally slpet on the album and over time more and more ppl woke up to the greatness of the album.you cant be serious.... Jay has been either promoting that album or himself since
the begining of his career. "Greatest rapper alive" tag is something he created to praise himself ...lol.everybody promoted themselves, you think that jay is the only person to call himself the best? instead of making useless comments, why dont you just refute what i said. why dont you point out the times that dude has shoved the "rd is a classic" thing down ppl's throats? i know he re-released the album in '98 or 99 and mentioned it on bp(which is after it was already a consensus classic), but what else are you talking about?

[fundz]

LOL @ lauryn hill being the reason for IWW's commercial success

dumbasses, the single that featured her wasn't even the highest charting from the album

revisionists FTW

scumbag claims he hates nas so much yet he cops every magazine issue with an article on him, listenens to every one of his albums, studies his lyrics, watches his videos, makes/joins internet gangs centered upon him, and so forth

essentially he's more entangled with Nas than any stan is

ironic eh

[Monoblock]

oh jesus not again

[Still Shinin]

i was actually one of the first to lead that online movement on the old AHH years ago. everyone said IWW was average for Nas but to me its always been a classic, probably my favorite Nas album. i never really understood the hate that album got, but still, who really cares what others lable it? i could careless aslong as i like it, not sure why ur hurt that people consider it a Classic. u should accept it and let that ether burn slow

ignore that last sentence, its not at u, i just thought it wasa nice way to end what i said:)

[gawdbondie]

LOL @ lauryn hill being the reason for IWW's commercial success
dumbasses, the single that featured her wasn't even the highest charting from the album
revisionists FTW
scumbag claims he hates nas so much yet he cops every magazine issue with an article on him, listenens to every one of his albums, studies his lyrics, watches his videos, makes/joins internet gangs centered upon, and so forth
essentially he's more entangled with Nas than any stan is
ironic eh
:laugh: true..but hes funny at times


btw..which track charted higher than If I Ruled??
All I know is that If I Ruled was very popular and people that never heard of Nas knew that song.

[Max Kellerman]

IWW is stil better than streets disciple and hip hop is dead

[scumbag]

the dumbest statements in this thread so far

It Was Written is Nas best album EVER

i don't know but like 3 people personally who think Illmatic is betetr than it was written

they didn't even rate death row albums at that time

out here in L.A. that street dreams bumped cuz it had the all eyes on me hoo.

those wack ass Dipshyts never made a classic no matter how hard they try.

only reason I point any of this out is because of the threadstarters longstanding Jay/Nas bias/gimmick

LOL @ lauryn hill being the reason for IWW's commercial success

dumbasses, the single that featured her wasn't even the highest charting from the album

[fundz]

the dumbest statements in this thread so far

You do realize that Street Dreams was a higher charting single than If I Ruled The World right? ain't nothing dumb about that, it's a stone-cold indisputable fact

[checkman]

I remember buyin the IWW and de la souls stakes is high album the same day,I always thought de la had the better album those days...IWW is a classic though

[scumbag]

You do realize that Street Dreams was a higher charting single than If I Ruled The World right? ain't nothing dumb about that, it's a stone-cold indisputable fact
http://i27.tinypic.com/2hghb1w.jpg

[fundz]

http://i27.tinypic.com/2hghb1w.jpg

I'll prove you lost already (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/retrieve_chart_history.do?model.vnuArtistId=36620&model.vnuAlbumId=805373)

[gawdbondie]

I'll prove you lost already (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/retrieve_chart_history.do?model.vnuArtistId=36620&model.vnuAlbumId=805373)
:eek: damn...didnt know that..

But where is IllWill01??...this wont be a true IWW bashing thread without
the fake nas stan bashing IWW. IllWill01, I know your out there, jump in whenever you
can and tell us why this album is garbage to you.

[Osiel]

this faqqot STILL making threads about Nas? which one were you again? Bkgigglez? Fatal Reality? Yauze? How many fukkin screen names do you have? smh @ this cracka keeping nas's name alive by making daily threads about him.

[scumbag]

if i ruled the world ranked higher on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks chart though

plus, the if i ruled the world video had way more rotation on mtv & bet than street dreams..

[KingStarbury3]

Y everyone makin this so complicated?

Illmatic>>>It was written

It was written>>>any other nas cd and any jay-z cd

Its as simple as that, nas haters already know what they can do.

FNH!!!!!